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The Artemis II mission has produced some stunning imagery as the spacecraft loops around the Moon on its journey from Earth and back. The cameras on the Artemis II mission have been getting a workout as the crew and imaging sensors attached to the spacecraft are snapping pictures throughout the flight. The images do not fully …

  1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Eclipse

    Funny that you can make such a shot with AI without having to go to friking Moon.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Eclipse

      But now we have evidence that the moon is round

      1. blu3b3rry Silver badge

        Re: Eclipse

        But is it evidence that the moon isn't made of cheese?

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Eclipse

          That's why the next mission will involve landing on the moon, ideally near one of the moon crackers

  2. Richard Tobin

    What counts as an eclipse?

    Is it an eclipse every day at midnight when the earth is between you and the sun? Or when you fly across the Atlantic at night?

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: What counts as an eclipse?

      No.

      There have to be at least three bodies is involved - one of which the observer is on, watching the other two move into line.

      Just to be weird, a solar eclipse is "just" a transit of the Moon across the Sun (from our p.o.v.) but the other one is a transit of the Earth across the Sun from the p.o.v. of the Moon - and we happen to be looking *away* from it! And as everything is from the Human perspective, we decided to call that a Lunar eclipse, when to the Selenites it is just that big bugger getting in the way again.

      1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: What counts as an eclipse?

        Thats a Cavorite film of mine....

      2. RegGuy1
        Coat

        There have to be at least three bodies is involved

        If all three are bodies, shirley none will be able to observe.

        (I'm not saying one was called Shirley.)

  3. Rory B Bellows
    Happy

    PARIS

    Paper Aircraft Released Into Space...

    When will El Reg be sending a craft of some sort to the moon? Also, what possible acronym could be used?

    1. The commentard formerly known as Mister_C
      Coat

      Re: PARIS

      A very tenuous and tortured first guess (just like all the good backronyms)

      Paper Investigatory Idea Involving Infra Gravity Structure

      so PIIIIGS in space

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: PARIS

      Whatever happened to the highest paper plan attempt. I remember donating that a few years ago.

  4. that one in the corner Silver badge

    54 minutes of Totality

    Jammy buggers.

    We go haring around the planet, hoping for about 7 minutes (and without cloud), that lot get almost an hour when they're out on a Works jolly!

    1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: 54 minutes of Totality

      I was looking for the cartoon for the 1999 UK Eclipse featuring two people in two cars, stuck in a traffic jam in the rain, heading towards Cornwall lamenting that they hoped the clouds would part long enough to see the sun & watch it disappear...

      However, this will have to do. https://www.facebook.com/schulzmuseum/posts/this-strip-was-published-on-july-20-1963-can-you-see-the-solar-eclipse-where-you/10155710676743054/

      1. Roland6 Silver badge

        Re: 54 minutes of Totality

        The laugh is some parts of the UK are forgetting what rain is…

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: 54 minutes of Totality

        > 1999 UK Eclipse

        We were in Devon that week as everywhere in Cornwall wanted a 2 week booking to stay. Going south on the Saturday before the M5 south was....empty whilst the northbound a car park as usual. It reversed the following week and visiting Newquay the next day after the eclipse it was so quiet and all the holiday lets had "vacancies" notices up. Talk about greet shooting themselves in the foot....

        We did at least manage to briefly see a partial one through a gap in the clouds and it did get a little darker and quieter for a few minutes.

        1. breakfast Silver badge

          Re: 54 minutes of Totality

          We were in South Wales. It was cloudy. It got darker. My friend said "it's all gone a bit dingy." It got lighter again.

          Heck of an experience.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: 54 minutes of Totality

            It's surprising how much of the sun can disappear during a partial solar eclipse with so little obvious effect.

            I double-checked, and the 2015 eclipse reached 95% where I am in Scotland. And yes, it was noticeably dimmer and the light somewhat different, but nowhere *near* as much as one might otherwise have expected from that much of the sun being covered up.

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
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      74 minutes of Totality - without leaving Earth

      30 June 1973, Concorde 001

      The Concorde experienced 74 minutes of totality with an extended second contact of 7 minutes and extended third contact of 12 minutes

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Concorde_eclipse_flight

  5. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Alien

    Monolith

    Did they spot the Monolith? Is it still there after 25 years? (we are, after all in 2026 now)

    1. mr.K

      Re: Monolith

      We are? When did that happen?

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Monolith

        Stop the world, I want to get off

    2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      Re: Monolith

      Due to cuts, the monolith had to be down-sized. Therefore, the aliens could only afford a minilith. Which was accidentally swallowed by a Clanger.

  6. GBE

    The sphere of lunar influence?

    Artemis II is due to exit the sphere of lunar influence on Tuesday.

    <rant>

    Interesting. Newton was wrong then?

    F ≠ G m₁m₂/r²

    At some value of r, F suddenly drops to zero at the boundary of the "sphere of lunar influence"?

    What exactly is the radius of the sphere of lunar influence?

    As anybody who lives near an ocean can witness first-hand, the "sphere of lunar influence" definitely includes the Earth.

    So how exactly is Artemis going to "exit" that sphere?

    At one point, some half-witted commentator on the Nasa Youtube broadcast was yakking inanely about how the spacecraft had left Earth's gravity and was now under Lunar gravity (or something very close to that). Nobody who works for NASA should be saying stupid things like that in public.

    If you mean that the gravitational field of the Moon is now stronger than the gravitational field of Earth (or vice versa), THEN SAY THAT!

    </rant>

    1. mr.K

      Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence_(astrodynamics)

      1. GBE

        Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence_(astrodynamics)

        Mia Culpa, I stand corrected. "Sphere of lunar influence" is the proper phrase in that context. My apologies to Mr. Speed.

        [That's still no excuse for saying things like "they've left the Earth's gravity behind" on a NASA broadcast. If that were the case, then it wouldn't be a free-return trajectory.]

    2. ravenviz Silver badge

      Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

      r is the distance between the centres of gravity of m1 and m2.

      F would only be zero if Integrity burrowed into the very core of the Moon.

      1. MonkeyJuice Silver badge

        Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

        At which point it would appear to require infinite energy to separate them, which demonstrates why doing the maths with point masses only get you so far...

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

        > F would only be zero if Integrity burrowed into the very core of the Moon

        which would require them to mix up Imperial with metric values again

        1. ravenviz Silver badge

          Re: The sphere of lunar influence?

          What could possibly go wrong? Oh….!

          While the ongoing NASA Artemis stream has been a privilege to watch, looking bottom right and seeing the various distances given in miles is somewhat irksome!

  7. spold Silver badge

    Never seen before...

    https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExazYwZDBpMnR2dTN6d3JmODR2YWlkM2ZmOGozMDllMm9vY3lpaGs3dCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xUNd9XIJm5J1qUgPvO/200.webp

  8. Stanley Toolset

    The Piper's Disciples' poetic pontification:

    "All that is now

    All that is gone

    All that's to come

    and everything under the sun is in tune

    but the sun is eclipsed by the moon."

    Perfect.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it’s all dark

  9. cpage

    Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

    NASA, and the media reports slavishly following them, keep on saying that it takes astronauts further from the Earth then has ever been done before.

    But that's only because they are orbiting the moon at around 4000 miles, whereas the Apollo-era astronauts orginted the moon at a much lower altitude, just a few hundred miles, as far as I remember. That gave them a *much* better view of the surface of the Moon. So why is Artemis II going so far - is if just to create a pretty meaningless record, or is it because the spacecraft and rockets are pretty new and untested and they didn't think it was safe to aim at a Lunar altitude that was any lower?

    1. ChrisC Silver badge

      Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

      Because they're not orbiting the moon, they're slingshotting around it to return straight back to Earth.

      The distance record being mentioned so often is therefore in comparison with the prior record set by Apollo 13, which ended up following much the same flight path whilst on its "free return" trajectory, as opposed to the "direct abort" path expected to have been followed if a lunar mission needed to be cut short prior to reaching the moon, but which would have required using the service module engine, the integrity of which was unknown following the O2 tank explosion.

      1. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

        Also Apollo 13 set its course and velocity with the intention of a short SME burn to go into lunar orbit whilst Artemis never had any plan to go into orbit, hence it got there a bit quicker and went around on a slightly bigger orbit.

        Of course the moon could also just be a bit further away this time that it was with Apollo 13 !

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

          They are doing far less than Apollo missions did and need a way of spinning this into 'a win' for the new advanced technology

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

            Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

            They are doing far less than Apollo missions did and need a way of spinning this into 'a win' for the new advanced technology

            They're also doing far less testing. Although, admittedly the engines and a version of the boosters have many flights on Shuttle.

            There were 13 launches of 3 Saturn I versions, before Saturn V first flew. And the Apollo capsule had flown on 2 of those (Saturn 1B) flights.

            Only then did you get Apollo 4, 5 and 6 (Saturns V, I and V respectively) - all flown unmanned.

            Apollo 7 was the first manned launch, and thus the 17th launch of a Saturn family rocket and the 5th Apollo capsule.

            Only the second manned launch (Apollo 8) went to the Moon. Which was by then the 3rd use of Saturn V.

            SLS and Orion have only flown once before. So the first manned test also went round the Moon. One reason they decided on a free-return trajectory. Although I'm not sure if they've got the fuel to get into and out of lunar orbit without the upgraded upper stage anyway.

            1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

              >Although I'm not sure if they've got the fuel to get into and out of lunar orbit without the upgraded upper stage anyway.

              AFAIK they barely have the performance to do the orbit they are doing, it was also the reason for the tight launch window and moon position.

              Not NASA's fault given the whole project history but it has an air of desperately looking for a win l.

            2. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

              Re: Why is Artemis II orbiting the Moon at such a great distance?

              "Although I'm not sure if they've got the fuel to get into and out of lunar orbit without the upgraded upper stage anyway."

              They have used about 2,400kg of fuel and have over 4,000kg remain so plenty of margin.

  10. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

    Data downloaded via laser link, first for a lunar mission.

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