The Register Home Page

back to article OpenAI gets $122B to 'just build things' as the world blows them up

OpenAI has secured an additional $122 billion in capital from a diverse group of investors and reached a nominal $852 billion valuation, the highest of any pre-IPO tech company. The poster child of the LLM era argues it needs the money to help the world "just build things," it said in an online missive. Backers include its …

  1. retiredFool

    Even if AI is the best thing since sliced bread

    Sending money from novice investors is just not a good idea. There is a reason that the big markets have rules about sales/expenses etc along with generally accepted accounting principles. So that a person investing 10 grand doesn't need a PhD in accounting to make a somewhat informed decision.

    And even in the big boy markets, silly me, I got a lesson. I bought a stock that was public, that is called a PTP, Publicly Traded Partnership. Like always, I dipped my toes in as it was an area I wasn't too familiar with. The brokerage even popped a dialog indicating it was "risky". I looked over several years of their price and thought looks stable, they were a energy pipeline company, payed good dividends as "Return of Capital" which again, silly me, I had no idea the implications. What the brokerage should have popped was a dialog saying your taxes are going to be a nightmare. And they have been. The complexity added to my return as a result of this short lived purchase and fairly minimal return is nothing less than bewildering. I'd never expected a "K-1" from a stock I owned and all that goes with it. The 1099 from the brokerage was just the beginning of the tax journey, whereas for all the other stocks I've owned, it is the end and the beginning.

    So my overall point is, I can't imagine the tax complexity added by owning a "private" company. And the complexity may not happen until the year you sell it. I doubt the small investor has access to the accountant they are going to need to decipher the tax forms they get.

  2. cd Silver badge

    "The natives of that group, before Mr. Smith’s time, are popularly said to have eked out a precarious livelihood by taking in each other’s washing."

  3. Paratiritis

    Strange times

    With these inconceivable amounts we have to start making inconceivable guesses about what is happening. Researching the cure to mortality, secretly building quantum computers, executing a blueprint as in the movie Contact?

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Strange times

      Gaming the stock market to become as rich as possible?

    2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: Strange times

      My guess is the money gets spent on blow, hookers, bling and fixers/lawyers. Very little on actual research.

      1. JacobZ

        Re: Strange times

        ...and the rest will be just wasted

        (Nod to George Best)

  4. ComputerSays_noAbsolutelyNo Silver badge

    A unified AI superapp

    So, Elon's Everything App 2.0 AI Edition?

  5. iron

    > "Users do not want disconnected tools," OpenAI said

    Clearly they have never heard of the Unix philosophy.

    I realise I'm a non-standard user but I want good tools that do their job well, not a Frankenstein Swiss Army Knife that does everything badly.

    > The world doesn't just want to build things. It demonstrably also wants to blow them up. OpenAI's long list of investors and cloud providers might now wonder if they are standing in the blast zone.

    Not to worry, Jensen Huang supports war. He thinks we should have bombed Iran years ago and there's money to be made selling AI to the Iranians once the US bombs them back to the stone age.

    1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Devil

      "Users do not want disconnected tools," OpenAI said

      I think the dearticulated tools users don't want are the AI bros, Crypto bros, big tech, their lobbyists, their "tame" public officials and politicians, …the whole boiling really.

      It's not that the public don't want this crew disconnected as quartering would be a preferred option for dealing with these offenders, it's their disconnection from reality and from the massive harm they cause the public don't want.

  6. IGotOut Silver badge

    Checks date...

    "OpenAI will not make a profit until 2030. "

    Nice one. You had me up until it will make a profit bit.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Checks date...

      It was accurate up to the until.

  7. ecofeco Silver badge
    FAIL

    There's an old saying

    Failing to plan is planning to fail.

  8. spacecadet66

    > OpenAI has secured an additional $122 billion in capital

    Now hold on because we need to make an important distinction here: does "OpenAI has secured" mean these investors have actually sent money to OpenAI? Or is it the classic OpenAI move of announcing it's gotten funding when they just mean they have an investor who has expressed interest in maybe funding them, as they've done so many times before?

    1. Curious

      It's "Committed Capital" i.e. pledges from the investors to invest over future years. In February it was €110 billion, now it's €122 billion.

      If the investors don't invest, then there is probably some penalty clause.

      Like "forfeiture of a portion of the investor's share of future profits". Snark.

      "

      Traditionally, investors who commit capital to PE funds will have several years to make good on the commitment. Failing to do so can lead to penalties, such as the forfeiture of a portion of the investor's share of future profits. In some cases, the offending investors may also be required to sell their interest in the fund, either to other existing partners or to approved third parties.

      "

      https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/committedcapital.asp

  9. Ian Johnston Silver badge

    Remind me, how much investors' money did ARK Invest burn in the crypto bubble?

  10. itsborken

    "Upside Economics"

    When's that supposedly starting?

    1. mirachu

      Re: "Upside Economics"

      Maybe they mean "upside down economics".

  11. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Facepalm

    OpenAI will not make a profit until 2030.

    [PBS] "Where do you see yourself in five years ?"

    [SA] "OpenAI? Bankrupt, obviously."

    [SA] "Me ? In a pleasant little tax haven with the fewest extradition agreements, I should think."

  12. heyrick Silver badge

    Obscene amounts of money

    To put this sum into context, $122B is roughly $350,000,000 per US citizen.

    The county that still bankrupts people for mundane medical issues.

    1. Thousandwich

      Re: Obscene amounts of money

      Number of US citizens = 338,000,000

      $122B = $122,000,000,000

      122,000,000,000 divided by 338,000,000 = $360.95

      350 million per citizen? How have I gone so wrong in this calculation?

      1. daflibble

        Re: Obscene amounts of money

        You'll need to ask an AI about that... For the low low price of $350/month I'm sure it'll tell you.

    2. What Is The Frequency?

      Re: Obscene amounts of money

      Check your maths. I make it ~$350 per US citizen.

      Since population of US is nearer ~350 million.

      I agree with your sentiment though.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Isn't it one of those pass-the-parcel games

    where the bundle goes round and round in circles

    except the bundle gets bigger and bigger

    until the music stops?

  14. Tron Silver badge

    Manias and bubbles just get dafter as they get closer to the inevitable endgame.

    Tech worked better and was safer before AI, and will be so again after AI.

    You don't actually need to spend cash on anything AI. And given the determination of the orange goblin to destroy the global economy, you would be insane to spend on anything inessential right now. The era of retrenchment is upon us. Let GAFA play pass the parcel with their billions and spin fantasies. Put your tin hat on and keep your cash in your pocket.

  15. colinhoad

    If building stuff is the goal, Altman is the last person on earth to be giving money to

    Seriously, what has Sam Altman ever built? Committing such eye-watering amounts of money to a snake oil salesman is insane, and I hope everyone involved loses their shirts.

POST COMMENT House rules

Not a member of The Register? Create a new account here.

  • Enter your comment

  • Add an icon

Anonymous cowards cannot choose their icon