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US data miner Palantir has quietly landed inside the UK's financial watchdog, plugging into a trove of sensitive data as Whitehall simultaneously insists it wants to wean itself off exactly this kind of dependency. The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) has handed the American analytics biz a three-month trial contract worth …

  1. steviebuk Silver badge

    This won't end well

    A simple search shows you how much of a bubble the AI bollocks is. Not only that, but the company that were using AI for their accounts. When it came to spending the money it said they had made, it didn't exist. It just made the numbers up to what it thought they wanted to see and no one was bothering to check its work!

  2. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

    contractual controls and technical safeguards govern use

    They made a pinky promise as well.

    1. I could be a dog really Silver badge

      Re: contractual controls and technical safeguards govern use

      Hmm, lets see ...

      Palantir is US based, hence is governed by US law, hence any contract terms are worthless. Microsoft at least have a track record of standing up to the US TLAs, but they have had to admit they can't guarantee data sovereignty. Palatir seem ready to suck up to the US TLAs. Make of that what you will.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Palantir's foul presence makes intrusive KYC and digital ID a big deal

    Just days ago someone suggested it's no big deal for your friendly local bank teller to ask you a few questions about something unusual.

    It won't be the "friendly teller."

    It will be Palantir digging through every data point about you until AI finds either a false positive, or 42 quid of unreported income from when you fixed your neighbor's printer in 2013.

    Now add in digital ID to harvest even more datapoints on every subject citizen.

  4. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Wine and steak

    There is absolutely zero reason for Palantir to have any kind of contracts with the UK government.

    Yet, here we are.

    MI5 is asleep at the wheel yet again. You may question what exactly civil servants are being paid for. By the looks of it, it's to look away and pretend everything is fine.

    1. cyberdemon Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Wine and steak

      According to the latest Private Eye (No. 1671, p12, "Shites of the Round Table"), the NHS Palantir deal was brokered by.. one Peter Mandelson, via his lobbying firm Global Counsel, which was paid by Palantir for access to the Department of Health and Social Care.

      Reg readers may also remember Mandy as the author of the Digital Economy Bill aka Mandybill, now the Digital Economy Act.

      I wonder if had Mandy not made the amendments lobbied for by Google et al, the bulk data-slurping by the tech companies for training their shit-o-matic models would have been more difficult legally.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wine and steak

        > Reg readers may also remember Mandy as the author of the Digital Economy Bill aka Mandybill, now the Digital Economy Act.

        Readers may also remember Mandelson as a longtime friend of Jeffrey Epstein. Mandelson took Epstein's money for intel and was later arrested for public misconduct because of it.

        AP: Former UK ambassador Mandelson released on bail after arrest in Epstein probe

        Everything he's lobbied for should be considered tainted until evidence proves otherwise.

        As for Palantir?

        Epstein called Peter Thiel ’89 a ‘great friend,’ offered financial advice

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Wine and steak

          Peter, put your pants on.

          1. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

            Re: Wine and steak

            His pants were on, mercifully. Do you mean trousers?

  5. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Whitehall simultaneously insists it wants to wean itself off exactly this kind of dependency"

    The longest journey starts with the first step. When are they going to take it?

    1. TVU Silver badge

      Yes, it is disturbing given the controversial nature of Palantir plus I wouldn't be at all surprised if they kept all the data from this short term test contract even if there are obliged to delete it.

  6. Andy 73

    Just no.

    How clearly do we have to say it?

    On security grounds, on digital sovereignty grounds, on cost grounds, on grounds of sanity... there is not one single justification for letting those politically compromised hacks anywhere near our public services.

  7. 45RPM Silver badge

    Allowing Palantir any kind of access to national infrastructure and governmental organisations, particularly given how embedded they are with the current administration in the Whitehouse, is nothing short of treasonous. It might be accidental treason, borne of incompetence, but it’s treason none the less - and the people responsible for this idiocy should be looking forward to a stay at his majesty’s pleasure. It won’t happen of course - the rot goes to the top.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      The fish rots from the head.

  8. ecofeco Silver badge
    Facepalm

    WTF?!

    Oh dear god.

    Dear fucking god.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Palantir And AI and stuff doesn’t worry me at all

    They way things are going, Trump will have us all nuked by next Wednesday…

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Palantir And AI and stuff doesn’t worry me at all

      Isn't that their plan, keep the proles fearing the end of the world so they don't mind the corporate takeover.

  10. MrGreen

    Treasure Island

    The elites call the UK Treasure Island.

    They don’t care about you, your family or the UK. They can leave anytime on a private jet.

    They only care about sending your tax money to companies they all own shares in.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Whitehall: From the toxic water privatisation debacle we've learned our lesson that handing critical public services to international corporates doesn't end well.

    Also Whitehall: let's hand critical public services to international AI corporates to deliver imagined new efficiencies because this time it’s different.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "three-month trial contract "

    I.e. "Here, download *everything* for free!" That will happen at the first day, you can bet on it.

    That's what it actually is and goodbye secrets when P. sells them to anyone who has money.

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