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Elon Musk has put Tesla, SpaceX, and xAI in harness to build a chip fabrication outfit called "Terafab" capable of producing a terawatt's worth of computing power each year, then send most of it into space. In a Sunday afternoon presentation, Musk said the world's chipmakers currently produce 20 gigawatts' worth of compute …

  1. Adair Silver badge

    Peak Musk...

    ...is past. Now well on the way to jumping the shark.

    1. simonlb Silver badge

      Re: Peak Musk...

      Well on the way? That guy started the jump over ten years ago and is still in mid-air.

      1. coredump Bronze badge

        Re: Peak Musk...

        So, should we add more sharks, then?

        As long as some number of sharks get a meal out of it in the near-ish future, it seems like a worthwhile thing.

        1. Diamandi Lucas

          Re: Peak Musk...

          Make them BYD Sharks to really rub it in.

        2. druck Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          He's jumping Jason Statham's Megalodons.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Peak Musk...

      “ The reason for doing this, Musk said, is to ensure humans find a home among the stars and a future that will be “like the best science fiction you have ever read. Like Star Trek, Iain Banks, Asimov, or Heinlein.”

      Seems fine to me Asimov/Foundation where Robots and AI are banned. Star Trek where Robot/Sentient life was banned.

      AI will lead to the Downfall of Mankind, and I don’t believe we will ever escape this Solar System - even with Musk’s ‘New Physics’.. Akin to The Expanse.

      My Protected Philosophical Beliefs.

      1. gv

        Re: Peak Musk...

        It would actually turn out like Blake's 7: the boot of the Terran Federation forever stamping on your face.

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
          Happy

          Re: Peak Musk...

          As long as we get Servelan...

          1. brodders

            Re: Peak Musk...

            Mmmm... Servilan

            1. cyberdemon Silver badge
              Gimp

              Re: As long as we get Servelan...

              She's a saucy minx that Servalan.. No other galactic supervillain would get as personally involved in her job as she does.

              Been watching Blake's 7 recently and it is incredibly good. Not so impressed with that Tarrant twit in the later episodes, but the set design makes up for it.

              And they always end up saving Servalan. I would, too.

            2. gv

              Re: Peak Musk...

              You'd be dead within a week.

        2. Paul Herber Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          Sorry, more like Red Dwarf. If you want Talkie Toaster in this universe .... ahhhhhhh!

          1. The Dogs Meevonks Silver badge

            Re: Peak Musk...

            Would you like some toast... but first a word from our sponsor... CrumpetClub™... For just £99.99 dollarpounds a month you will receive a weekly supply of bready products designed specially for your talkie toaster™.

        3. TheMaskedMan

          Re: Peak Musk...

          "It would actually turn out like Blake's 7"

          Speaking of which, why no mention of the proposed reboot on these hallowed pages? Or did I miss it?

          1. simonlb Silver badge

            Re: Peak Musk...

            Perhaps I missed it, but I only remember the BBC ever broadcasting it once when it originally came out when I was a kid. I'm also currently going through the DVD box set for all 4 seasons, and season 4 has gone all camp and space opera like, with everyone overacting in each scene, which is a shame.

      2. Alan J. Wylie

        Re: Peak Musk...

        Like Star Trek, Iain Banks, Asimov, or Heinlein

        More likely, Frank Herbert's Butlerian Jihad: Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

        P.S., is the phrase "a rack packed full of high-end AI fear" an apposite typo?

        1. LogicGate Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          "a future that will be “like the best science fiction you have ever read. Like .... Heinlein.”

          -He wants the Moon to become a privately run penal colony.

          -He wants the united states to fall apart into a bunch of facist and populist dictatorships where genetically enhanced humans are used as slaves.

          1984 was a warning, not a set of instructions!

          1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

            Re: Peak Musk...

            I re-read 1984 over the weekend, chillingly familiar.

        2. You aint sin me, roit
          Mushroom

          Re: Peak Musk...

          I think before we get to a Butlerian Jihad there will be "issues" when people realize that more resources are being put into powering those 10 billion robots than feeding the human population.

          People go hungry so Musk can have his robot army. And remember, that's one reason why he wants control of Tesla: "If we build this robot army, do I have at least a strong influence... I don't feel comfortable... if I don't have that".

          As if anyone would feel "comfortable" with Musk in control of a robot army...

          1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

            Re: Peak Musk...

            > "People go hungry so Musk can have his robot army"

            I've said this before, but it's *odd* that the man who thinks it's supposedly so crucial for man's future that we invest in getting away from earth even at the expense of anything resembling social justice and condemning billions to a squalor-like existence is someone who was born into a highly-privileged background, who has never known what it is to be remotely poor, almost certainly will never be so before he dies and who- therefore- will never suffer the consequences of this decision he's nevertheless keen to inflict upon countless others.

            Musk has masqueraded as a visionary for too long, when all he really ever was is someone interested in indulging himself and his rich-boy fantasies- a stunted manchild who never had to grow up and "whose only social education [was] the funky sci-fi books [he] read whilst growing up". (*)

            And now increasingly exposed as the outright lying bullshitter it's clear he always was.

            (*) Thank you for this one, "Andy 73".

      3. Like a badger Silver badge

        Re: Peak Musk...

        Since when was Star Trek "the best science fiction you have ever read"? It's always been moderately entertaining sci-fi drivel.

        And it was Iain M Banks writing science fiction. He was quite particular about the distinction between Iain Banks and Iain M Banks, so perhaps the mush-brained fascist needs to pay more attention.

        1. bigphil9009

          Re: Peak Musk...

          Thank you for pointing this out. The man has such a surface-level knowledge of everything and yet people keep falling for it!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Peak Musk...

            5/10, try harder with your Use of (Wea)puns....

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Peak Musk...

            Despite having been a hero for so many "weird nerds" Musk is not, and has never been, noted for being anything close to skilled- let alone an expert- in *any* particular scientific area.

            Musk may be a sci-fi fan, but so fucking what? As one Register forum poster noted, he's one of those whose only social education is the funky sci-fi books they read whilst growing up, trying to deal with the "big questions" that you're suddenly faced with when the day to day distractions of paying the mortgage have gone away.

            Any remaining idea that Musk is a nerd/geek hero should have disappeared with his self-serving vandalism on science he perpetrated last year on behalf of DOGE. But, then again, like Musk, many nerds are in a similar position and confuse having geeky obsessions with actual scientific literacy- something that was frequently exposed on (e.g.) Slashdot when the discussion veered outside the tech/IT comfort zone into a story about serious physics and all they had to contribute were lame jokes.

            So, then again, one can see why fake science bullshitter Musk *was* a hero to many. Not sure if he still is.

        2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          "He was quite particular about the distinction between Iain Banks and Iain M Banks"

          No, if Musk says it was Iain Banks then Iain Banks it must have been. Just ask Grok.

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      4. Albert Coates
        Thumb Down

        Re: Peak Musk...

        Iain Banks just writes novels. The science fiction author is Iain M. Banks, and his 'Culture' space operas are full of violence, vicious intrigue and horrendous cruelty. No thanks, Elon, lay off the ketamine, and I hope you're not the one being decapitated by a knife missile disguised as a dildo (see 'Matter'.)

        1. Martin an gof Silver badge
          Unhappy

          Re: Peak Musk...

          Iain Banks just writes novels

          Apologies for breaking it to you if you didn't know, but Iain Banks doesn't write novels any more.

          M.

      5. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: Peak Musk...

        We can all live in a future like an Ian Banks novel!

        It is good to have an ambition, but do we want a future full of exploding crematoria?

      6. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Peak Musk...

        He's already achieved one Star Trek time line. He is Lore and Trump is the Crystalline entity.

        1. kmorwath Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          Actuall Trump looks more the offspring from a Ferengi and a Cardassian...

      7. The Dogs Meevonks Silver badge

        Re: Peak Musk...

        More like Waterworld and Mad Max

    3. Persona Silver badge

      Re: Peak Musk...

      Probably, but it he tries and fails it doesn't matter that much to me. If however he does manage to jump the shark, then things might get interesting.

      1. cyberdemon Silver badge
        Facepalm

        A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

        One Million Megawatts. That's a million satellites with solar arrays a square kilometer each.

        If he is allowed to try (and inevitably fail) this flagrantly infeasible idea, then yes it matters. This is a very resource-intensive, pollution-intensive, and obviously capital-intensive folly. In order to try (and fail) he would have to borrow from the same banks that I would rather like to be able to borrow a house from, or invest my pension with.

        Frankly, it is time that "The PayPal Mafia" and the other tech twats were put in the stocks for the people to throw rotten eggs at

        Otherwise, we are looking at a financial crash to make the Great Depression look like a blip

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

          > That's a million satellites with solar arrays a square kilometer each.

          Anything Mr Burns can do, Musk can do better!

          1. Paul Herber Silver badge

            Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

            Excellent!

        2. khjohansen

          Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

          If they were to be launched ... straight into the Sun ... wouldn't the solar panels be significantly smaller ??

        3. cyberdemon Silver badge
          Alert

          A correction

          My apologies. Not a square kilometer each, but 2000-3000 square metres per megawatt. Not quite Monty Burns then, but nevertheless very large satellites. The ISS can be seen from the ground with the naked eye, and has 2500 m2 of panels. A million of those is still absurd.

          1. Martin an gof Silver badge
            Boffin

            Re: A correction

            Might shade us from the sun and reduce global warming ;-)

            M.

          2. Persona Silver badge

            Re: A correction

            Thank you for the correction. I had looked at your post and done the basic maths to see what was wrong before seeing it. It's surprising that you got so many upvotes for a headline that was so obviously wrong.

            One million megawatts from one million satellites would be one megawatt per satellite. An area of a square kilometer each is million square meters each.

            One megawatt from one million square meters means they would be delivering a measly one watt per square meter.

            This coincidently is about the power density you get out around the orbit of Pluto.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: A correction

              We upvoters assumed he was using Musk maths to make the point.

              We heard what he said, but we knew what he meant.

        4. TheMaskedMan

          Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

          "If he is allowed to try (and inevitably fail) this flagrantly infeasible idea, then yes it matters."

          Allowed? By whom? There isn't all that much legislation to govern what an individual might do in - or beyond - earth orbit.

          Which, I suspect, is what is really driving Elon. Yes, nutty though he is, it's quite true that we should be expanding out into space. It doesn't do to keep all your eggs in one basket. But his more immediate concern is to get beyond regulations, to be beyond the jurisdiction of any terrestrial government.

          Which, again, is understandable. A few hundred years ago, if you didnt like your country / government, you just boarded a ship and went looking for somewhere else to live. That's not so easy now, and the next logical alternative is to move off world. That's what is driving his Mars obsession. It's not an option for most people, but it's different for the super rich.

          As for his latest blatherings, well, what can we say? All sounds a bit far fetched to me, but that's not to say that he will fall completely. Popcorn time!

          1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

            " It doesn't do to keep all your eggs in one basket."

            It does if you accept that that's the only basket you're going to get and you'd better look after it.

          2. cyberdemon Silver badge
            Devil

            Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

            > Allowed? By whom?

            By the banks, investors, bondholders. If they won't lend him the money then he can't do it. He doesn't have enough funny-money to do it purely out of his own pocket.

            And the FCC apparently have some power to stop him.

            And there are locals already suing him for the pollution to the town nearby his so-called spaceport (in the Panorama that I linked). If he were to increase that pollution a thousand fold with this project, then it wouldn't just be the locals suing him, it'd be the state.

            > Yes, nutty though he is, it's quite true that we should be expanding out into space.

            Putting a million large sattelites into low earth orbit is not "expanding into space". It actively prevents that with a cloud of space-junk in orbit.. Ten years ago he said he was going to Mars, then he revised that to the Moon, now it seems he's just taking a big dump on the front porch.

            1. You aint sin me, roit
              Trollface

              Pollution?

              All the more reason to get off world! Go to Mars where the night skies are free from satellites!

          3. Michael Strorm Silver badge

            Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

            > "Yes, nutty though he is, it's quite true that we should be expanding out into space. It doesn't do to keep all your eggs in one basket."

            Musk would rather reallocate the money spent on social justice and keeping billions out of squalor on his ill-thought-out plans for space exploration on that basis. As I- coincidentally- already said elsewhere in this thread, one suspects that it's easy for him to say that given he was born into privilege, has never known what it is to be poor, almost certainly never will before he dies and won't suffer the consequences of that decision he's willing to inflict upon others.

            I say "ill-thought-out" because I don't think Musk gets *quite* how difficult and expensive even the most basic level of space exploration to other worlds is likely to be. This is the man who, around a decade ago, promised crewed missions to Mars in just a few years with ever-changing forecast dates as we reach and pass the previous ones.

            > "That's what is driving his Mars obsession. It's not an option for most people, but it's different for the super rich."

            From this post by "Andy 73":-

            So it's perhaps not unexpected that [the super-rich tech bros'] attention shifts from the "small things" to "big issues". Humans like to have something to worry about, and if it's not that your neighbour's trees are blocking your light, it has to be something else.

            In these cases, having been told that they are influencers, leaders of men, powerful people, the worries become grander. Yet even Zuckerberg cannot stop the next pandemic, or mass social unrest. And before long, they're worrying each other about "the event", they're trying to fix society with cack-handed cod psychology like accelerationism or they're speed running government corruption. Especially in the tech world, here are a bunch of guys who's only social education is the funky sci-fi books they read whilst growing up, trying to deal with the "big questions" that you're suddenly faced with when the day to day distractions of paying the mortgage have gone away.

            The part in bold, in particular, is Musk all over.

        5. retiredmonkey

          Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

          Your maths don't math. Solar flux is around 1500W/m^2 and at 20% efficiency you can get 300W/m^2. So that's just 3300m^2 per megawatt, not a km^2. You seem to be wrong by a factor of about 300.

          1. cyberdemon Silver badge
            Alert

            Re: A Terawatt of compute.. In Space.

            Indeed. I noticed shortly after posting, but too late to edit, so I posted a correction. It's a few posts above this one with the same icon.

            FWIW, some of the proposed designs have up to 16 square kilometre arrays.

            I don't know what's more absurd - a million 1MW satellites, a thousand 1GW satellites, or a hundred odd of these monstrosities

      2. nijam Silver badge

        Re: Peak Musk...

        > ...If however he does manage to jump the shark,

        Then we'll need jumping sharks. Any of you working on that?

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          Re: Peak Musk...

          I have some spring-loaded piranha*, we can build on that.

          * for when the trapdoor over the pool opens but the chair doesn't tip backwards; you see the look of relief and then - twaaang! It's such a giggle.

    4. DS999 Silver badge

      Damn I really wish

      That there was one person here trying to defend his claims. In the past we've seen people doing so, but I guess he's going so far off the rails even any Tesla stockholders among Reg readers can't be bothered.

    5. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

      Re: Peak Musk...

      Musk has lost and and all grasp on reality in his isolated little evil stronghold retreat on Mt. Doom. Too many sycophants saying "Yes Sir" and not enough saying "You're a freaking loon on that one, you are Sir"

  2. Joe W Silver badge

    Yeah.... right...

    I always wonder if he is smoking some weird shit, or if he does this to boost share prices, or likes the media attention.

    "New physics". Right. And what kind of physics? 2nm on a large scale, without any prior experience? Terrawatt computing in space without a way to vent off all that heat?

    This is just another bloody stupid idea, and I guess by writing that comment I give him the attention he wants. Look at the Hyperloop, full self driving "this year for realz", Cybertruck (at least this one does indeed exist), the stupid submarine thingy, ...

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      I always wonder if he is smoking some weird shit

      Ketamine.

    2. simonlb Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      “confident will work. It's just a question of when.”

      Finally, the words he has never once uttered in all his bullshit bingo talks over the years - "Just a question of when." This is why there are no monorails hyperloops in existence, because although technically feasible, our current level of power generation and the materials science needed are not at a large enough scale to build them. He wasn't lying about it, we just can't do it yet. But by the time we do have that level of technology available to do it, we will already have built the next generation of high-speed trains and supersonic aircraft so the hyperloop will not be needed.

      And 135 Starship launches a day? Well at least a couple of them might finally get to orbit instead of having a dip in the Indian Ocean, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

      No, as with anything with this guy, if he's 'confident' it can be done, you can guarantee it will always be in about two years possibly before the heat death of the universe. Probably.

      1. Paul Herber Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: Yeah.... right...

        Monorails is an anagram of "I no morals".

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        2. upsidedowncreature

          Re: Yeah.... right...

          Also "Moron sail"

    3. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      They have experience of heat venting both on Dragon and Starlink so I give them the benefit of doubt that they can manage heat.

      However the plan on works with rail gun launch from lunar surface. The same lunar surface were there is still doubt about how much water there is plus nothing has ever been manufactured in the extremely hostile environment.

    4. David Newall

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      He'll get rid of the extreme UV laser hitting drops of tin and use a normal IR laser plus machine learning. That's the kind of forward thinking leadership that got Tesla to level 5 autonomous driving before anyone else.

      Pardon? He can't? Oh...

    5. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      Scot Manley put a YouTube video up over the weekend about venting heat, and doing the back-of-the-envelope calculations. Apparently it's possible.

      I'm still sceptical, however.

      1. Snow Hill Island

        Re: Yeah.... right...

        Did Scott Manley remember to allow for radiatiing off waste heat from the inefficient solar panels? (Separate to the waste heat from the compute power.... some sunlight is reflected off, some is converted into electricity, and some warms up the solar panels....)

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Yeah.... right...

        I’m curious how they are going to vent heat with no fucking atmosphere for heat exchange?? Because space is a near-vacuum, there are no particles to conduct or convect heat, meaning temperature is felt primarily through radiation in or out:

        Radiation will only get you so far.

    6. Michael Strorm Silver badge

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      > "I always wonder if he is smoking some weird shit, or if he does this to boost share prices, or likes the media attention."

      Yes, yes and yes.

    7. Mimsey Borogove

      Re: Yeah.... right...

      Terrawatt computing in space without a way to vent off all that heat?

      I've been trying to figure out whether space would be a better place for datacenters, with my very limited knowledge of both space and physics. One of my main objections to them is the tremendous amount of power and water needed on earth, but would those be problems in space? I'm thinking a large solar array for power, and the array itself could act as a heat shield for the computers. Being out of the sun, space itself could cool them - right?

  3. Dan 55 Silver badge
    Alien

    All I want to know is

    Which opioid inspired this Musk idea.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: All I want to know is

      Perhaps the DEA need to raid his house ?

    2. trevorde Silver badge

      Re: All I want to know is

      I'll have what he's having ...

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        There's no coming back from that.

        You don't want to ruin your brain like he did.

  4. Winkypop Silver badge
    Facepalm

    new physics

    “The most outrageous lies that can be invented will find believers if a person only tells them with all his might.”

    - Mark Twain

    1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Thumb Down

      Re: new physics

      Pataphysics I should think from this Ubu·esque fool.

    2. HorseflySteve

      Re: new physics

      The problem with new physics is that old physics keep getting in the way.

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: new physics

        > The problem with new physics

        Let's call it "alternative physics" by analogy with the so-called "alternative facts" spouted by Musk's far-right political comrades, and for the same reason.

  5. Evil Auditor Silver badge

    He mentioned “some very interesting new physics” that he is “confident will work. It's just a question of when.”

    It isn't April's fools day, is it?

    1. LogicGate Silver badge

      The new physics may be on their way, but as far as I know, they do not revolve around chip manufacturing.

      Edit: On second thought, the new physics musk Hallucinates about may first have been hallucinated by his AI (Grok? X-AI?) after he removed all guardrails.

    2. Dizzy Dwarf

      No, but the use of AI got him there a week early

  6. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Shares in Musk companies rose by a gazilion jiliion, as investors creamed themselves when their one shared brain cell fired in ecstasy.

  7. SnailFerrous Silver badge

    “Terafab”

    Not XFab? He's slipping.

    1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: “Terafab”

      Shouldn't it be "GigaFab" given his historical liking of 'Giga'...

      Mines the one with a pocket full of 74LS74's.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: “Terafab”

        > 10 million tons into space every year

        Casting his GigaShadow across the face if the Earth

  8. ComicalEngineer Silver badge
    Alien

    "Ye canna change the laws of physics"

    Montgomery Scott [StarTrek The Naked Time] 1960-something

    1. KayJ

      Laws of physics, laws of physics!

      1. APro
        Happy

        ... Jim!

        There's Klingons on the starboard bough....!!!

        ..

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          Starboard bough?

          Send a pruning crew to the arboretum get Uhura out of that tree!

  9. The Central Scrutinizer Silver badge

    And I have a couple of bridges to sell. One has unbeatable harbour views in Sydney.... get in quick!

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge

      Become a member of the Sydney Harbour Bridge Club. It's all jokers.

  10. Yorick Hunt Silver badge
    Alien

    Factory on Mars.

    Products transported back to Earth using interstellar hyperloops.

    Icon: Musk's passport photo.

  11. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

    "Built a Fab"?

    Has he really built one or is it a pipe dream?

    Modern Fabs (the sort that can make 2nm wafers) take years to build and start operating. Ask Intel or TSMC about that. For his lordship Elon the 1st of Texas, to have built a fab in Austin very much off the radar is slightly suspicious. Could this as alluded to by some respondents be a [cough][cough] bit of pure Fabrication on his part that may or may not have been helped by possibly illegal substances?

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: "Built a Fab"?

      Presumably the "play" to draw investors in is to suggest that lithography and etching are the problem and that it can all be done with 3-D printing – this might be possible at some scales, and then you start looking at the accuracy you can achieve using mechanical processes, versus those using lasers… I can sort of imagine using lasers in some way "dropping" atoms onto a substrate in a way that is already done when doping…

      I've no doubt improvements are possible – and we may see that the Chinese manufacturers come up with some process improvements to compensate the resolution at which they operate – but the chip industry hasn't got to the concentration it has because TSMC and ASML are using anti-competitive practices to prevent all competition, but because the physics (and chemistry) at this resolution is bloody difficult. This has lead to specialisation at every step of the supply chain, but competition remains fierce.

      1. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

        Re: "Built a Fab"?

        TSMC and ASML aren't using anti-competitive practices. They are protecting they IP which isn't surprising as they spent $100bn so far. Huawei is looking at using existing deep ultraviolet lithography as they don't have access to extreme ultraviolet but looking at the article below I don't see how they can apply it to 2nm

        https://www.huaweicentral.com/huaweis-2nm-chip-patent-7-things-you-should-know/

        1. Eric 9001
          Boffin

          Re: "Built a Fab"?

          The very concept of Imaginary Property is anti-competitive.

          Patents can only be described as legalized extortion and anti-competition (as a business can still be sued and extorted even when such business implemented the invention before the patent was granted to the patent aggressor).

          They claim to have spent $100bn, but TSMC reports an annual revenue in excess of 100 billion USD/year and ASML reports an annual revenue in excess of 30 billion USD/year.

          https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/tsm/revenue/

          https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/asml/revenue/

          Their investments appears to have paid off already, therefore that is not a valid argument as to why they "deserve" to be able be anti-competitive - the shareholders possibly having a dividend that might be slightly smaller if there is competition, is not a valid argument either.

          1. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

            Re: "Built a Fab"?

            You realise that revenue isn't the same as profit ? Having $100bn revenue doesn't mean they have covered R & D costs.

            If you have prior art, then how can you be sued ?

            1. Eric 9001
              Boffin

              Re: "Built a Fab"?

              ~$100bn revenue over several years means you will have covered R&D costs if you're not totally hopeless at business.

              In countries with a first to file patent system, you can be sued even if you published prior art prior art prior to the patent being filed, as the extortionist has the patent and you don't; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent?useskin=monobook#US_change_to_first-inventor-to-file_(FITF)

              Typically what happens is a big business goes to extort a smaller business and if the smaller businesses goes through the patents and determines that many or all are not applicable (or they have solid, published prior art) - the big business just threatens to go back and get more and therefore the smaller business typically chooses to be extorted at the lower settlement rate, rather than the higher extortion rate of legal costs.

              Even in a country with first to invent and a solid published prior art, the extortion amount is typically adjusted to be less than the expenses of a legal defense.

              The only business who wins when it comes to patents, is big businesses like IBM, as if any business that actually produces something tries to extort IBM, IBM goes; "Cute, but we got this one and this one and this one and that one that applies to your business - why don't we cross license?" and IBM gets more patents and the other business gets patents it can't use to extort.

              But such tactic doesn't work against patent trolls that produce nothing and only do patent litigation - who managed in the past to actually extort IBM for example - but IBM just wrote it off as a cost of doing business - but they've now joined the LOT Network to fix that problem.

        2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: "Built a Fab"?

          I may have expressed myself poorly, but that's the point I was making.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: "Built a Fab"?

        You can already build transistors atom-atom using AFM, the problem is that it's rather slow once you want to scale to chips with 100Bn transistors

      3. Alan J. Wylie

        Re: "Built a Fab"?

        I can sort of imagine using lasers in some way "dropping" atoms onto a substrate in a way that is already done when doping

        Molecular-beam epitaxy perhaps?

        A friend of mine used to do this at Heriot-Watt before he retired. Have a look at some of the images on-line for stainless steel flange porn.

    2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: "Built a Fab"?

      Do you really have to ask the question ?

    3. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Re: "Built a Fab"?

      It's in his garage, just needs scaling up.

  12. Andy 73

    So....

    Straw poll of Register commentariat seems to suggest no-one's buying what Musk is selling.

    It took too long to get here, but at least we're beginning to see the end of the acceptance of outright lies coming from him and his cohorts.

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: So....

      You have to give the Elonophiles some more time: they are currently unable to type, still exhausted and quivering from the multiple Muskasms they had whilst reading the claims. When they've caught their breath, they'll watch a few YouTube replays to extend the afterglow.

      And then, *then* they'll come at us with all the might of the downvote!

    2. Kurgan Silver badge

      Re: So....

      We Register commentators are not "normal people". Normal people fall for his bullshit. And investors too.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: So....

        I'm not sure his investors are normal people.

    3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: So....

      The Register commentator seldom does.

    4. APro
      WTF?

      Re: So....

      I'll buy what Musk is selling...

      I've got several beds of Roses that need fertiliser!!!

      Damn, no Smiley Poo icon!!!!

  13. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Physics

    Maybe he should invent new physics to detach his neck from Putin's boot. Or something about releasing Epstein files.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Physics

      Isn't Musk the only one free of Epstein links, cos he was too weird and creepy to be invited to those sort of parties?

  14. S4qFBxkFFg

    I've written off Mush as a delusional nutter many times (the first being back in the early 2010s when he was burning parts of Texas, trying to get a rocket landing tail-first: doesn't this idiot realise how much delta-v he's wasting on a no-glide boost-back burn?, trying to make a desirable electric car, Twitter debacle, etc.), but he has an annoying habit of being right, if never to the extent he advertises.

    As an aside, I do hope he's referring to the Iain M. Banks novels, not the ones for which the author dropped the 'M'.

    (edit: didn't mean to type "Mush", but it can stay)

    1. SnailFerrous Silver badge

      And the Iain M Banks, with the M novels were mostly about a galaxy spanning, egalitarian, anarcho-communist society. Not something you'd think a techno feudalist overlord would approve of. Silicon Valley tech bros never seem to properly read their scifi inspiration beyond the kapow space battles.

      1. You aint sin me, roit

        There was also a complete acceptance of gender and sexual fluidity in the Culture... something to which Musk has shown to be extremely adverse.

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          But, but - a citizen of the Culture can gland their choice of happy juice any time they want!

          You can see the appeal of that to Musk.

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        > a galaxy spanning, egalitarian, anarcho-communist society. Not something you'd think a techno feudalist overlord would approve of.

        As long as he is in charge he won't care....

      3. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        > "Silicon Valley tech bros never seem to properly read their scifi inspiration beyond the kapow space battles."

        Musk is a fucking white supremacist one of whose favourite books is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Which was written by a man with an "End Apartheid" sticker on his typewriter.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      He should be given credit for what he, or more accurately, his engineers have achieved. His main inputs have been to secure the funding for ventures that others didn't see any opportunity in, and his energy and determination. But he's also been proved wrong on several occasions.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        > ventures that others didn't see any opportunity in

        Others have always seen opportunity in the two things that actually work from Musk's empire[1]:

        Tesla was a going concern before Musk - and electric cars were well on the map from other manufacturers, as shown by the fact that electric cars have been around since the dawn of motor vehicles. Although advances in related tech, including, IT, were important in moving from the mere daily use of electric vehicles in the 1930s on to meeting the speed requirements of the travelling salesman: the desire and eye to the opportunity were always there - held back mainly because of the lobbying by the internal combustion guys.

        Reusable rocketry - it wasn't moving as fast as we'd've liked, with things like the cancellation of the DC-X Delta Clipper. Although advances in related tech, including IT, were important in allowing engineers to move on from a test item to fully working vehicles. As even the Wikipedia the timeline shows, there has been a pretty much continual interest in private companies in space operations, including launch.

        > But he's also been proved wrong on several occasions.

        That gives us two (count them, two[1, again]) times he has continued - admittedly, with a certain "flair" - to get other people to fund things that were ripe opportunities that the relevant private industries were already well aware of. Now, those have grown in size and popular exposure, but the count is still two.

        Now, how about things where, in fact, (except a certain breed of, what is the word - charlatans) "others didn't see any opportunity": hyperloop, boring holes for even more roads, solar panel shingles, flame throwers amongst them. Plus the "opportunities" that he "spotted" for his actually functional companies to work on: Cybertruck, the battery-powered big rig (what am I forgetting here?).

        We all expect things like VC funding to have hits and misses - and if Musk restricted himself to claiming to be a VC we'd probably cut him some more slack. But so far the rate of spotting successful opportunities that others missed - and making them work - seems to be very close to zero. Getting funding for opportunities that others were all too aware off and speeding them up, okay, granted.

        > more accurately, his engineers have achieved

        Very true.

        [1] No, not counting PayPal, for obvious reasons.

        1. Martin an gof Silver badge

          solar panel shingles

          They've been around for decades, or at least, the sort which can replace roof tiles has. I suppose replacing a thin layer of bitumen felt with a chunky solar module might cause issues on a roof that wasn't designed to take much weight.

          Link to a company a mate works for. They supply solar slates.

          M.

          1. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

            Solar tiles don't weight much more than slate.

            1. Martin an gof Silver badge

              Solar tiles don't weight much more than slate.

              Which is sort of the point I was making. On this side of the pond we tend to build roofs to last. Not uncommon to see 150 year old terraces in former mining villages still wearing substantially the same Welsh slate roof they were built with – ditto red fired clay tiles in Itaiy, half-inch thick stone shingles in Scotland and so on. Modern cheap interlocking cement roof tiles should be good for well over 50 years and likely much longer with some basic maintenance.

              Heck, even a reed-thatched roof in Norfolk has a life of 50 years or more.

              In large parts of the US, and I'm sure there are good reasons, a roof is boarded with OSB or plywood and the waterproof layer is bitumen felt – rolls, sheets, strips or shingles – much the same as we might use on the garden shed, and with an expected life of 10 to 20 years.

              Bitumen felt weighs next to nothing compared with even the highest tech solar panels which is why I was wondering if US roofs were up to the task. If it works though, then with useful working lives of 20 – 30 years, solar shingles might outlast a typical residential roof, stateside!

              M.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                "an expected life of 10 to 20 years."

                For bitumen roof? That's a crap roof then, absolute shit.

                We've just replaced similar roof of our summer cottage and we installed it in 1963. Not only that, here in North we've actual winter every year, snow and all.

                It had some patches to fix the holes made by branches dropping from trees (pine does that), but no leaks until 2022. 60+ years old at that point and that's more or less normal, nothing exceptional.

                1. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

                  I sometimes think that the whole USA is basically a film set.

              2. Tuomas Hosia

                "solar shingles might outlast a typical residential roof, stateside!"

                Only if you assume typical roof lasts 10 years, which is absolutely absurd assumption. Try 50 years for *any* proper roof.

                Even the shingles roof we had in the old times, lasted 25 to 35 years and those were just wood, no treatment whatsoever.

                1. Martin an gof Silver badge

                  Wood shingles are another thing altogether and the right wood, properly maintained is pretty good.

                  But US roofs were a big story a while back, with insurance companies refusing to insure roofs more than 15 years old even if designed to last 30 (just one example).

                  It even made headlines in this august publication though with a slightly different emphasis.

                  It stuck in my head because a lot of the stories considered 30 years really good for a roof.

                  The house I mostly grew up in was built in 1967 and not terribly well built at that, but in the 40-odd years I knew that house (we moved in in 1973) as far as I remember, the only problems with the roof were not problems with the roof at all; the guttering needed attention some time in the 1980s and the chimney was re-pointed in the 1990s.

                  M.

          2. that one in the corner Silver badge

            > Link to ...

            Which only makes Musk's inability to get anywhere with his tiles all the more impressively bad!

            IIRC he was making some wild claims about how the roof plates were going to be manufactured; typically overblown, in the end he had to scratch his shingles*

            * not usually recommended

    3. DS999 Silver badge

      What has he been right about?

      Yes he was the first to reach economies of scale in EV production - thanks to huge government subsidies, and he was at one point a month away from going bankrupt according to himself. This wasn't a huge technical achievement or doing something no one thought could be done - it just required someone willing and able to burn cash for long enough to reach that point. A lot of it was due to technology improvement he had nothing to do with - that's why there are now dozens of EV players in China and elsewhere, many of whom are delivering EVs costing far less than his.

      Yes he was the first to deliver commercial reusable rockets. Tail landing had been done before so everyone knew it was possible but again making it commercially successful required someone willing and able to burn cash getting there. Had NASA made that a priority for their contracts we'd likely have had it a long time ago, but they don't do enough launches a year that it was worth it to them to develop that tech when they had other places to direct their budget. Having cheap launch technology made Starlink possible - it has zero new tech, and is better the alternatives simply because of the number of LEO satellites he's been able to launch - and again, being willing and able to burn cash getting it to the point where it could sustain itself going forward.

      I'm struggling to think of anything else he was "annoyingly right" about? He's got a long list of failed promises for his self driving tech, and it is falling further and further behind the state of the art (he's no longer in the top 10 purveyors of that tech since he's getting lapped by others despite his huge head start) Despite the recent splashy articles about his trucks, he was late to that party as there have been electric trucks and self driving electric trucks on the road for several years while his was constantly promised and falling further and further behind schedule.

      Everything he's promised that's truly futuristic has completely failed to materialize. Hyperloop? That sounded like a fantasy when he announced it, and it was. The only "operating" one is running Teslas in a tunnel. That was possible with tech almost 200 years ago, we knew how to dig tunnels then and steam engines above ground could have pulled cables attached to train cars in those tunnels. Might be a bit quieter and safer/cheaper to dig the tunnel, but it is not an advance worthy of the wild claims he originally made about tunnels hundreds of miles long and speeds exceeding Mach 1 lol

      The idea he can build a fab himself AT ALL when even Intel and Samsung struggle to keep up with TSMC is pretty fanciful. The idea he can do it on a scale 50x greater than everyone in the world, or that there is a market for that level of capacity is even more ridiculous. He won't be annoyingly right about this, he'll be laughably wrong. Everyone here knows it, and even his fanboys who usually pipe up to defend him against criticism are staying silent because even they don't believe him on this!

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: What has he been right about?

        I'm prepared to give him credit for choosing to invest in both Tesla and Space X at a time when most investors were interested solely in software and "platforms" that could scale massively. He certainly brought management nous to the companies: buying the Toyota factory in order to be able to make cars at scale. I'm less of a fan of the debt-financing, but it was what everyone else was using.

        He should be given credit for helping/letting Space X set goals that it eventually achieved. The NASA contract reduced the financial risk somewhat, but Musk was personally responsible for much of the financing and he stuck with it even when it looked like might not work.

        But things like Solarcity should have alerted investors to the potential downsides of giving him so much power to do whatever he wanted. Tesla fell into an innovation pit as development halted in order to juice returns. It hasn't really recovered from this, which is why it's being rolled in with Twitter and Space X to muddy the waters before an IPO that will let him build robots nobody needs.

        1. DS999 Silver badge

          Re: What has he been right about?

          I'm prepared to give him credit for choosing to invest in both Tesla and Space X at a time when most investors were interested solely in...

          So you're giving him credit for being a risk taker. OK, fair enough, he could have sat on the pile he got pile by Paypal to go away because he was so annoying and lived a life of luxury, but he's hardly alone there.

          He also took some pretty small risk technology wise with Tesla and SpaceX. No basic technology that didn't exist had to be invented for either one, nor was the proposed scale of each wildly out of proportion with what was already out there.

          That was not true with Hyperloop, which required a LOT of new technology to be invented from scratch to deliver on his initial wild promises that he quickly forgot. That goes double for his terafab, which not only requires new technology to meet his claimed goal of making chips without a cleanroom but is also ridiculous on its scale being 50x larger or whatever it is than current worldwide chip output. Even if there was demand for that you'd run into materials shortages to the point where you'd need to find a lot of new sources of raw materials or develop new techniques to exploit places (like the ocean) where they may exist but are currently completely infeasible.

          He's so far off the rails now that he's discontinuing some models of Tesla because he wants to repurpose the factory to make robots. Despite no proof he can actually make a robot that does anything useful, and that there is a market for enough of them that justifies shutting down car production to go all in on robots. He'd only finally reached breakeven without subsidy for cars but first he crated his reputation by going full Nazi now he's making huge cuts to production (though maybe one has to do with the other...) so Tesla is going to go back to losing money on cars, and add losing money on robots.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: What has he been right about?

        "Yes he was the first to reach economies of scale in EV production"

        I.e. investing in a company which had capability do so and even then he needed literally billions in subsidies.

        That's the opposite of 'reaching' something: Taxpayer paid all of it.

  15. BebopWeBop Silver badge
    Facepalm

    New physics? There is precious little of that beyond small insights at the moment. Better engineering maybe.

    Maybe the ketamine is having an effect on the loony?

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      New Physics

      I am afraid "new physics" is actually a thing. The current generation can be recognised by the total absence of anything explaining what it is.

      The previous generation actually came with a PDF. The first page would be about the conspiracy of established physicists rejecting the proposition out of jealousy. The next page would have some complicated mathematics copied from a 100 year old text book. The appearance of mathematics changes over the years as the language becomes more concise and expressive. The page will be quite correct, utterly irrelevant and difficult for anyone under 60 years old to recognise. The next 98 pages are mechanically generated - not travesty generator output like a man from mars. The last one I read had complex output from molecular modelling software. It was probably quite correct (IANAChemist) but each page took over two minutes to render making it impractical to read the entire document.

      Early attempts at new physics did include an explanation. The problem was these were quickly debunked either because of a flaw in the mathematics (all triangles are isoscales) or because the theory predicted the wrong results for simple experiments.

      The purpose of new physics is to get investment from people with more money than sense. I doubt Musk has the brains to do it directly. More likely he has fallen for the prattle of a skilled new physicist and is repeating the words to Tesla shareholders. At this rate SpaceX's IPO will reach orbit before Starship.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: New Physics

        I think the explanation's simpler than that. The old physics won't deliver so he needs new physics. It will also finally enable the fully self-driving car.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: New Physics

        "The purpose of new physics is to get investment from people with more money than sense"

        AFAIK there's a term for that: Marketing.

        You could also use "swinde" or "fraud", depending on the amounts of lies involved.

  16. Naich

    "Musk challenged doubters by pointing out Tesla and SpaceX defied critics who predicted electric cars and reusable rockets would not be feasible or economical."

    Reusable rockets were around in the early 80s, and electric cars have been around for ever. I guess we wouldn't know these critics because they go to a different school.

  17. jpennycook

    RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

    Given his stated intention to die on Mars, just not on landing, where the regolith is poisonous and the solar radiation is deadly, this will be interesting

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

      We amm agree that he should definitely die on Mars.

      As far I'm concerned, the sooner the better.

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

        But what does amanfromMars 1 think? He may object!

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

        As in the "The Marching Morons" by C. M. Kornbluth

      3. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

        > "We amm agree that he should definitely die on Mars."

        Personally, I'd be quite content to see Poochie Elon die on the way to his new home planet.

    2. Alan J. Wylie

      Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

      It's been a while since I read /The Moon is a Harsh Mistress/, but isn't there a quote in it where the AI says something like "shall I stop hurling steel encased rocks at Cheyenne Mountain, because it isn't there anymore?"

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

        The self-aware computer was called Mycroft, not "the AI".

    3. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: RE: "I want to live long enough to see the mass driver on the Moon," the 54-year-old said.

      He can spend 20 years building the mass driver on the Moon, then use it to shoot himself, and a big parachute, to Mars.

      With a couple of litres (sorry, sorry, pints) of water in his suit he can survive the landing and walk around for a bit, before shrivelling up, spending his last hour shouting to the heavens that his Tesla-branded Magnetosphere *will* work by 2051.

  18. Sparkypatrick

    Don't mention the Borg.

    In Musk's dream of an ideal future, we are the Borg.

    1. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: Don't mention the Borg.

      Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

  19. shodanbo

    "Humanoid robots that he thinks will sell in volumes of one to ten billion a year"

    Yes the upper bound is 10 billion.

    But what about that lower bound?

    One.

    1. Ian Johnston Silver badge

      For a "robot" which currently only works under remote control at the end of an umbilical and isn't quite as good as Honda's Asimo was twenty years ago.

  20. Ian Johnston Silver badge

    Since the works of both Heinlein and Asimov are full of praise for technofascism ("Under democracy mankind had become soft and decadent. It took the cold efficiency of science to sort things out ...") I'm not surprised Musk finds them aspirational.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      " Heinlein and Asimov are full of praise for technofascism"

      Praise? No. They do describe that kind of society, but if you see that as praise, you're missing something important.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Windows Update failed. This datacenter will now reenter Earth's atmosphere"

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "... a rack packed full of high-end AI fear."

    Plenty of those about already.

  23. Cronsch

    One small step for man - one giant leap

    Maybee Musk should start accomplished the trip to Mars or at least a trip to the Moon

  24. Taliesinawen

    DOGE uncovered massive fraud

    > Might that have been a reference to his chaotic and unproductive time at the head of the so-called Department of Government Efficiency?

    DOGE was sabotaged by vested interests. For instance the (USIP) copied computer files off site and then erased them locally to prevent audit. That's why DOGE couldn't trace where the money went that was allocated to all those dead people ;)

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: DOGE massive fraud

      Trump's executive order concerning USIP have been ruled illegal. The complete roll back of OMB's illegal actions is currently stayed awaiting appeal.

      Thank you for pointing out yet more criminal activity from the Trump regime. Has the rising cost of Iranian fertiliser reached your groceries yet?

    2. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: DOGE uncovered massive fraud

      Oh wait. You're serious.

      BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      On yer bike, wanker.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: DOGE uncovered massive fraud

      Good cult member. Have a cookie

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: DOGE uncovered massive fraud

        > "Good cult member. Have a cookie Kool-Aid"

        FTFY

  25. Frank Bitterlich

    Ten billion humanoid robots?

    I guess that about half of them will eventually sport a sticker claiming "I bought this before Elon went crazy".

  26. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Who needs helium when you have new physics?

  27. CapeCarl

    "Neuron fault, Cortex dumped"

    Hmmm OK, let's fire up SDB (no not that one, Synapse DeBugger) and see what was on the stack...

  28. jdiebdhidbsusbvwbsidnsoskebid Silver badge

    "terawatt's worth of computing power"

    Why is compute ability measured purely in units of power now? It means nothing. Like anyone, I can build a terawatt of (really inefficient) compute power. Ok, so actually getting a terawatt into it is a different challenge.

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: "terawatt's worth of computing power"

      Does anyone know how much power the replica Babbage engines require? Are any El Reg readers working at one of the museums that own an engine?

      After all, if you are looking for a design able to withstand the radiation in space, you could do a lot worse than all that lovely brass.

      We'd probably end up using William Gibson's measure of computing power, the gear-mile; efficiency in horses required per gear-mile, a measure colloquially known as the Hansom.

    2. robinsonb5

      Re: "terawatt's worth of computing power"

      Given what the datacentre build-out is going to do to demand and pricing for both energy and water, and the hardships that will cause for regular people, we really *really* need power usage to be considered a negative metric, not a postive one.

      Here's a radical solution: ban active cooling!

      OK I'm joking, I know it'll never happen - but the current approach to datacentres is the exact opposite of "treading lightly upon the earth", and a radical shift is desperately needed.

      [ On the subject of water usage: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/03/06/how-much-water-do-the-data-centres-use-its-a-secret/ ]

  29. Spaller

    Will no one think of the radiation?

  30. Anonymous John

    "Don't mention the Borg, R. Daneel Olivaw, Mule, hegemonizing swarms, or the soup at the end of Stranger in a Strange Land."

    Can we mention Memory Alpha?

  31. Anonymous John
    Gimp

    He mentioned "some very interesting new physics" that he is "confident will work. It's just a question of when."

    Positronic brain?

  32. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    Elongated Muskrat

    He's really excelled himself here. 10 Billion Robots. EVERY YEAR?!

  33. DrSunshine0104
    Trollface

    Guys. Guys.

    I am so stoked for his perpetual machine to take us to the Moon and then Mars!

    Win after win.

    This guy is such a genius. New physics; what can he not do!?

    1. Bbuckley

      And you are such a non-genius. Idiot.

  34. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

    way back when

    I used to imbibe the occasional recreational substance and occasionally thought I'd invented new physics too.

    Turned out I was just a stoned wanker, but I'm very grateful I didn't turn out to be a stoned, self deluding nazi wanker like Musk.

    1. Bbuckley

      Re: way back when

      No you were just a stoned, pointless self-deluding commie wanker!

  35. Dom 3

    Life expectancy

    For the average male at *birth*... not a rich one in his fifties

  36. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    'new physics'

    .. with an old name: "Magic".

  37. Bbuckley

    Honestly - to both the article writer and the 'armchair generals' who think they have something useful to say in the comments - Elon Musk *revolutionised* space exploration, not only with the first ever reusable Falcon rocket, but is, in *real-time*, as we speak, reinventing the actual future of the Human race with SpaceX Starship, I say to you - *losers!*. Idiots. You really are like the chimps in 2001, A Space Odyssey, totally confused and ignorant about what it is you are looking at.

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