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In what may be the most public acknowledgment of its cyber operations capabilities to date, the Pentagon has admitted that cyber soldiers are playing a key role in its attacks on Iran.  Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Caine, discussed cyber operations in the same breath as traditional military domains during …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Operation Epstein Shield

    Yeah, Operation Epstein Shield could easily go on for another few weeks. Perhaps longer, if the Emiratis and Saudis get sick enough of being targeted and decide to fire back themselves. The Iranians have made a huge mistake attacking their neighbors.

    1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: Operation Epstein Shield

      If they are hosting American war makers then they are fair game. After all, that was the argument the USA used when it bombed Cambodia and Laos.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Operation Epstein Shield

        War tends to proceed according to cause and effect, not right and wrong, nor fair and unfair.

        Demented Donny has already said for us to expect at least 4-5 weeks of this.

        Not like he wants to go back to talking about Epstein or the children imprisoned in his immigration gulags.

      2. doublelayer Silver badge

        Re: Operation Epstein Shield

        That is how war works, true. The other way that war works is that, if someone isn't shooting at you and you shoot at them, then they're more likely to shoot back at you. Iran can justify their actions through the laws of war if they want. The question is whether their actions help or harm them in battle, and we've not seen too much help so far.

    2. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: Operation Epstein Shield

      I thought it was operation Epstein Fury?

      The IRGC operate autonomously in local areas, it isn't tribal government like Afghanistan but it is functionally the same, so not being able to get orders from up on high isn't a problem. They won't be sitting on their hands doing nothing if they don't hear from their bosses. You can kill all the junior ayatollahs and senior military leadership but that's not likely to bring you any closer to "regime change".

      What they will get if they kill enough leadership is a civil war, and that will inevitably spread to neighboring countries and lead a great increase in the amount of new terrorists and terrorist sympathizers created in the Middle East. And they will all hate the US and Israel. At least Europe would be spared most of that hatred this time around since you lot have sensibly stayed well away from Trump's Epic Fail.

      1. Furious Reg reader John

        Re:

        The IRGC are the enforcers of the ayatollahs and oversee the military. Disrupting the IRGC reduces the effectiveness of their over watch of the military and increases the chance of the overthrow of the Islamic Republic autocracy.

        What would replace it is unknown, but there won't be the same influences that Iran has exerted on many of the surrounding areas when they have gone thorough similar upheavals.

        The region may well become even shittier than it currently is as a result of the current offensive actions by the US and Israel, but it will be quite difficult to achieve that given the results seen so far.

        1. DS999 Silver badge

          Re: Re:

          The IRGC numbers the better part of a million. Without ayatollahs to lead them they would continue their repression activities in their local districts - probably be worse than they have been without any guardrails and really pissed off about the killing of their supreme leader. They would be the greatest obstacle if some non fundamentalist Islamic government was set up in Tehran, and become the Taliban/ISIS types the central goverment (or the occupiers pulling its strings) would have to fight.

          1. Furious Reg reader John

            Re: Re:

            Not sure where you are getting the million figure from. Iran has a population of around 90 million, with the various branches of the IRGC totalling around 250,000 - maybe the million is the number of sympathetic supporters? The numbers have been enough to keep things under the ayatollahs control, but probably not enough now if the rest of the population feels is the time for a change. The IRGC will be relentlessly hunted down during the current military actions, further diminishing its ability to be the ayatollahs enforcers.

            1. DS999 Silver badge

              Re: Re:

              You're taking active members. When you include reserves they number over 600K, and safe to say the reserves would be activated when the country is under sustained attack and the supreme leader has been killed.

  2. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

    Fix the vocab

    >> the Pentagon has admitted that cyber soldiers are playing a key role in its attacks on Iran.

    Its illegal war against Iran. For oil. As usual. As it was against Iraq. And Venezuela.

    This has been long planned.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Vanity project

      For oil? Nah, just because he can. and they upset him.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Fix the vocab

      "This has been long planned"

      Not sure. He just needed something to distract the Great Unwashed from the fact his name started to be heard a lot in connection with the Epstein files.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Too bad Donny is kneecapping CISA at home

    Those dastardly Cyber-Mullahs wouldn’t dare attack the “Homeland”, would they?

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