back to article OpenAI’s Altman says Pentagon set ‘scary precedent’ binning Anthropic

OpenAI has signed a deal with the United States Department of War (DoW) that allows use of its advanced AI systems in classified environments, and urged the Pentagon to make the same terms available to its rivals. The AI upstart revealed the deal in a Saturday post that said it includes the following three “red lines”: No …

  1. EricM Silver badge

    No use of OpenAI technology for mass domestic surveillance.

    No use of OpenAI technology to direct autonomous weapons systems.

    No use of OpenAI technology for high-stakes automated decisions (e.g. systems such as “social credit”).

    OpenAI fills the vacancy one day after Anthropic was evicted and maintains the same red lines Anthropic was evicted for?

    Insert classic "I don't believe you" meme here ...

    1. Jimjam3

      They pinky promised.

      At this point I feel I’m watching a pantomime. “ He’s behind you!”

    2. Jamesit

      I have a bridge for sale and a nice ocean front property in Utah going cheap.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It was done as a 'pinky propmise' so legally enforcable as long as Altman and Trump remain BFF and are happy to share the same juice box.

      If they fall out then all bets are off and the robots will be sent into the street to remove anyone saying the words "Epstein", "Orange toddler, "Cheeto in Chief" or "Taco".

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      One assumes that OpenAI will have made some significant donations to funds associated with the presidency, or at least have promised to.

      Running the USA on a mob basis is proving very profitable for the people accepting the funds.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Weren’t they the same red lines Anthropic were seeking ?

    6. sabroni Silver badge

      weasel words

      https://www.techdirt.com/2026/03/02/openais-red-lines-are-written-in-the-nsas-dictionary-where-words-mean-what-the-nsa-wants-them-to-mean/

      "Why would the Pentagon seek to destroy one company over the same terms it agreed to with its largest competitor just hours later?

      There’s an answer though: the words in OpenAI’s contract likely don’t mean what most people think they mean."

  2. TM™
    Terminator

    "Grandad why do we live in an underground sewer?"

    Well son...

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: "Grandad why do we live in an underground sewer?"

      Speak up Sonny, yer ole gran'pappy don't hear so good no more.

  3. TM™
    Terminator

    Grandad, why do we live in an underground sewer?

    Well son...

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: Grandad, why do we live in an underground sewer?

      Hey now, no needs to shout, I's ain't deaf. Martha, kin you bring us both some lemonade-colored water substitute?

  4. DS999 Silver badge
    Big Brother

    "Scary precedent"

    Didn't stop you jumping in pig face first up to the DoD trough though, did it Sam?

  5. Aaiieeee
    Holmes

    I could believe that the Anthropic ban could have been constructed just to whip OpenAI into line. The prospect of being the only large vendor who can get DoD work ensures Sam will drop his pants. Those red lines will fade soon enough.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Well it does make you wonder why OpenAI says their agreement with the DoD is under supposedly the same conditions that Anthropic wanted and the DoD rejected.

      1. nobody who matters Silver badge
        Trollface

        Perhaps he is lying ??

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Trump has money in OpenAI?

      3. Jellied Eel Silver badge

        Well it does make you wonder why OpenAI says their agreement with the DoD is under supposedly the same conditions that Anthropic wanted and the DoD rejected.

        I think we'll have to wait for the litigation to find out any details about exactly what Anthropic supposedly stopped DoD (and other agencies) from doing. Apparently one of the complaints was that Anthropic's rules weren't very clearly defined. And OpenAI's might not be much better, eg-

        No use of OpenAI technology for mass domestic surveillance.

        No use of OpenAI technology to direct autonomous weapons systems.

        So define 'mass domestic surveillance'. DHS complained Anthropic imposed a similar restriction. There's also a complaint that DHS used IRS data to try and identify illegal immigrants, so whether that would be considered 'mass surveillance'. Which is also potentiall FUN! politically, ie regimes like California and NYC are facing a shrinking tax base, so identify high earners and offer them a pathway to citizenship. Or the US might want to identify fraudsters, but 'mass surveillance' restrictions might prevent government using AI to detect and prevent that.

        And then there's hypocrisy and potentially useful AI guardrails. It would be amusing if government proposes the 'No AI for mass domestic surveillance' legislation.. Which might hopefully mean the end of Copilot, MS's automatic screenshotting, Google, Facebook and even OpenAI ingesting ever bit of PII it can get their grubby mitts on to profile every user.

        The AWS restriction is also possibly open to interpretation. I doubt Ukraine & Russia are using OpenAI in their drone swarms, but AI is being used in that application. Which also depends on the definition of AI, eg US destroyers and GBAD is probably using some form of AI to detect and engage all the stuff flying around Iran at the moment. Probably still has a man-in-the-loop to set FCS to 'Auto', but in an era of drone, missile swarms and hypersonic weapons, defensive systems need fast decision making. If OpenAI or Anthropic want to shut themselves out of that lucrative market, it's their choice I guess.

        1. LionelB Silver badge

          > If OpenAI or Anthropic want to shut themselves out of that lucrative market, it's their choice I guess.

          Zyklon B ring any bells?

          1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

            Zyklon B ring any bells?

            Why should it, or what's the relevance? Then again, drug dealers have been busily using 'AI' for rational drug design, and hopefully there are safeguards to stop those discovering better chemical agents.

            IBM’s Hollerith machines might be more relevant, but profit often sadly trumps ethics.

            1. LionelB Silver badge

              I thought it was bleeding obvious, but simply this: companies may choose whom they do business with ­and; history will judge them on their choices.

  6. Dinanziame Silver badge
    Coffee/keyboard

    "as the more powerful party, I hold the government more responsible"

    More powerful...? Than who? Anthropic? Because you sure as hell ain't more powerful than the government.

  7. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Stop

    require approval by a human decisionmaker

    They missed a word. "Currently". Easy enough for the Pentagon, or the Great Orange One[tm], to decide that human decisionmakers are not required, and bingo, they can let the automatic idiot handle everything.

    1. Guy de Loimbard Silver badge
      Childcatcher

      Re: require approval by a human decisionmaker

      Spot on Neil Barnes, my thoughts exactly:

      "The AI System will not be used to independently direct autonomous weapons in any case where law, regulation, or Department policy requires human control"

      Having worked in Policy, this is the biggest get out clause, where "law, regulation, or.... policy requires human control"... how long before the Tangerine Buffoon, or one of his hapless and feckless sidekicks, decides to change, law, regulation or policy.

      1. IJD

        Re: require approval by a human decisionmaker

        Tomorrow?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: require approval by a human decisionmaker

          In April, Fox News will "find" a memo that shows it was an AI that launched the strike on Iran, the one that started the by-now six weeks of ground war the US is involved in.

          So, no, not tomorrow - two days ago.

          Don't you recall DJT's post about the rogue AI : "He who controls the time stamps on the Truth Social server..."

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: require approval by a human decisionmaker

            Perhaps Kuwaiti air defence ?

  8. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Windows

    "No use of OpenAI technology to direct autonomous weapons systems."

    Might be interesting should one of these autonomous weapons systems directed by pinky promise AI manages to destroy a major US military asset like a carrier.

    Or the assets of allies. "Friends like this who needs…"

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "No use of OpenAI technology to direct autonomous weapons systems."

      > like a carrier.

      Or just a few F-15 fighters.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    OpenAI endgame

    I already see OpenAI endgame here. Financial colapse for the company is getting closer and closer, BUT if you are too big to fall or too important (defence contractor, without us China will win!), there will be nice and warm goverment bailout. Also Anthropic is getting nice PR stunt that "we are not a bad guy, see? we have morals" from this incident.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: OpenAI endgame

      “Don’t be evil”.

      Yup, heard that one before.

  10. Irongut Silver badge

    More lies form Altman

    "The AI System will not be used to independently direct autonomous weapons in any case where law, regulation, or Department policy requires human control, nor will it be used to assume other high-stakes decisions that require approval by a human decisionmaker under the same authorities."

    Or in other words all they need to do is change the law, regulation or policy to not require human control and they can use OpenAI's LLM to fire all the weapons and make all the decisions they want.

    These promises mean nothing. Alman just eagerly signed up to build Skynet.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Resistance is futile ..

    Resistance is futile. You will be optimized into the collective. Lower your ethical shields and prepare to be integrated /s It will be of interest to future anthropologists watching humanity engaged in its own extinction :o

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    His mouth is moving so you know he's lying. One big parasite gagging on the government teat.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      That’s why Trump, Hegseth, Vought, RFK, Bondi have been removing Federal Guardrail’s at pace regardless of the lawfulness of their actions… and supported by SCOTUS kicking it ‘while the legal process plays out ’ into the long grass.

  13. LybsterRoy Silver badge

    Proof that AI is not self aware

    If as some claim AI is self aware why would you need this legal bullshit? Shirley he/she/they/nice machine wouldn't commit suicide would he/she/they/nice machine? Or was Kryten right about silicon heaven?

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