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Worried that someone wearing Meta's snooping spyware goggles could be creeping up on you? Android users now have access to an app that can warn them if someone is wearing such smart glasses in their vicinity by using Bluetooth. Last week, Yves Jeanrenaud, a deputy professor at Darmstadt University of Applied Sciences in …

  1. ErikOnTech

    Wrong warning

    FIFY: “Don’t stop at merely harassing glassholes.”

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Wrong warning

      I live in Massachusetts, a 2-party consent State, (G.L. c. 272, § 99). Violating Massachusetts' two-party consent law (G.L. c. 272, § 99) is a felony that carries severe penalties, including up to 5 years in state prison or 2.5 years in a house of correction, and fines of up to $10,000. The law requires all parties to consent to the recording of private, in-person, or electronic conversations.

      Filming/recording of private, in-person, or electronic conversations without getting your consent ahead of time? Call the cops and have their asses thrown in jail.

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Wrong warning

        AFAIK this only applies if the AREA they are in is regarded as private, 'cause in public no one can expect a private conversation. Train, streets, plazas, casinos, bars, shopping mall etc etc are regarded as "public". Though the latter three can have "house rules" with clear visible sign that no cameras are wanted. And then you better follow the rule, at least when someone reminds you, 'cause you might lose on court if the jury says so even though the latter three are regarded as public.

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Wrong warning

          "Though the latter three can have "house rules" with clear visible sign that no cameras are wanted."

          Casinos, bars and shopping malls are private property, not public, so they can institute reasonable rules on people while on their property. I think at most you could be trespassed from the property if you violate the rules. If you leave, it's all over. If you don't leave or return, that's when it becomes a crime and you wind up in court (US).

      2. Wisdom of ages

        Re: Wrong warning

        That law only applies if they converse with you. If they say nothing it's just filming in a public space which is still legal. Assault, however is not.

        1. BebopWeBop Silver badge
          Happy

          Re: Wrong warning

          It might be very satisfying though.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wrong warning

        I suspect you'll also get into trouble in Switzerland. It's not widely known, but things like for instance dashcams are technically illegal in Switzerland and should be switched off.

        That is, it was like that a few years ago. Not certain what it's like now because the Swiss seem to be teetering on the brink of giving in so much to US demands that Proton is threatening to up sticks and go elsewhere.

      4. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

        Good Luck "Calling the Police"

        1. The glassholes can and will simply walk or run away; they won't wait for the police to arrive.

        2. There are also ordinances against littering and jaywalking. Note the (lack of) effect they have. Despite the "ooh, it's a felony with big scary potential penalties!" factor, it's not going to be on the police's list-of-things-they-care-about. They've got murders to solve.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Good Luck "Calling the Police"

          I mean the police aren't solving murders either by and large.

          They're mostly just driving around looking for opportunities to do racism.

  2. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    "Disable LED easily"...

    Black tape anyone? No need for complex stuff... "Chekov! Bring up the photon shield!" "Ay ay c'ptain!"

  3. GS against BS

    What about us??????

    When is the IOS version coming?

  4. DS999 Silver badge
    Devil

    I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

    I'd want my phone to start spitting out bluetooth garbage at a higher than legal power level to make their spyglasses useless.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

      Get such a device from Ali or Temu, remote controlled over a different frequency. Or via USB port of your phone. I bet those things already exist.

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

        DIY EMP from capacitor discharge? There may be unwanted side-effects...

    2. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

      That'll stop all the non-spying functions (e.g. seeing phone notifications) but the glasses store photos and video locally (there is 32GB of flash).

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

        Sure but the reason 99% of people will be wearing them will be because they interface with their phone to do AI stuff like identifying people or giving them directions. Make that stop working and the glasses are useless to them.

        1. werdsmith Silver badge

          Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

          But this is about people not wanting to be recorded.

          I’m sure there are very few people that object to someone getting directions.

          1. that one in the corner Silver badge

            Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

            Absolutely.

            Display specs would be very useful to have; as I've commented before, I'd've loved to have a pair for use at work, ever since seeing 'em on Tomorrow's World.

            The addition of cameras to all the "well known" brands is a PITA, even bringing up the subject nowadays veers towards privacy and "I'd punch you". Plus any without cameras are rubbish displays or "specialist" and up goes the price, even for something with no processing of its own.

          2. DS999 Silver badge

            Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

            Glasses (or rather frames) that have video recording capability onto a microSD card have been available for years. You wouldn't even know they were capable of it, the camera is extremely well disguised and other than the frame being on the bulkier side you could never guess it. And there are plenty of bulky frames for sale purely as a fashion choice (or for people who have thick lenses) so that's not a way to identify them either.

            I'm more concerned with the privacy violation and potential for abuse if you had glasses that were constantly grabbing faces and trying to match them off pictures on Facebook/Instagram. Many to many face matching (especially at that scale) is pretty poor, but imagine the consequences if there was a "wanted" armed and dangerous criminal in an area and some Rambo ICE wannabe who is carrying (this part is US only) is notified about a match when they're walking down the street and decide to perform a citizen's arrest. Or worse, decide to take on who their glasses report to be that person but aren't.

    3. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Windows

      Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

      I'd want my phone to start spitting out bluetooth garbage at a higher than legal power level to make their spyglasses useless.

      Search "jamming BLE" to get plenty of results

      eg

      https://circuitdigest.com/news/rf-clown-an-opensource-bluetooth-jamming-tool

      https://github.com/sammwyy/BLEeding

      Filming or photographing people even overtly, without their permission has always been considered rude and the height of bad manners. Seemingly less so now because that's the world we live in. The poorest excuse for even poorer behaviour.

      I am wondering with enough power whether software defined radio with beam forming, could fry this Meta·tat. The spectacle of Zucker·prat having sparks flying from the sides of his… spectacles, would be worth paying for.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

        Filming or photographing people even overtly, without their permission has always been considered rude and the height of bad manners."

        Well, we know that nobody in government has ever cracked open a book by Emily Post.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

        I used to take my young son to narrow gauge railways. It was remarkable and depressing how many morbidly obese and scruffy men would take pictures of a smiley, blond haired sis year old. All perfectly legal, of course, but as creepy as fuck.

    4. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

      "Local storage": do Meta glasses have a flash card slot?

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: I wouldn't want to "warn" about it

        As above, 32GB of flash built in, but no card slot.

  5. E 2

    I installed it. It is entirely unresponsive. Google Pixel 9 series phone.

    1. Jamesit

      When I tap start scanning, nothing happens and it always says not scanning.

      Samsung Galaxy s24 Ultra.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Did it remind you to switch on "location"?

        Irony? Because Android has tied using Bluetooth to the location & GNSS function, there are so many accusations of innocent developers snooping on users' (because the app is trying to talk BT to a toy car or whatever) but will the privacy minded users also refuse apps like this one?

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          > Android has tied using Bluetooth to the location & GNSS function

          That is smartphone-dependent. Probably hardware dependent on which functions are combined which way in which chip. My smartphones are / were all untied, but I saw that on friends phones.

          1. that one in the corner Silver badge

            Not (specifically) tied to hardware; it started to happen after an Android update, so a device that was well-behaved became a PITA.

            A PITA because GNSS helps run the battery down; which is why (many) radio modules provide control over which submodules are powered. And then Android...

            AFAIK the use of location and BT tied together all comes from the proliferation of BLE and the continual advertising from "tags", the "fine location" using nearby ids to tie you down; whether Google tied the two together the other way around in order to use your phone to build their map of tags is another matter...

            1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

              Sounds like I missed that time. The phone I replaced (see other comment) was bought 2018 and the new one, well, now. So I likely skipped this evil evil Android version. But is it still this way today on your phone? The post you link to is about five years old...

      2. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Is it this reported issue showing up or something new you can open an issue for?

      3. notyetanotherid

        Try turning on the 'Foreground' option, it seems to need that to be on to keep scanning, but it was set to off by default when I installed.

      4. Jamesit

        I just updated the app and now it works V:1.0.4. I have location disabled.

    2. that one in the corner Silver badge

      You've checked Github issues and added your observation, to help get this fixed?

  6. Captain Hogwash Silver badge

    Things like this have existed for some time

    Have a look on F-Droid.

  7. BebopWeBop Silver badge
    Pirate

    "Our terms of service clearly state that users are responsible for complying with all applicable laws and for using Ray-Ban Meta glasses in a safe, respectful manner. And as with any recording device, people shouldn't use them for engaging in harmful activities like harassment, infringing on privacy rights, or capturing sensitive information"

    Good luck with that.

    I would suggest they issue instructions about use

    1. Don't

    2. If not 1 be prepared to be thumped when people notice

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      As long as you turn invisible when you do the thumping, because your victim will probably have the last laugh with their video evidence.

    2. kmorwath Silver badge

      It's the very American way of making money without any ethics, just like "guns don't kill people, people do" - they have to use guns in a safe, respectful manner, of course... but guns and hidden cameras are inherently dangerous.

  8. kmorwath Silver badge

    "It's generally legal to record video in public"

    Just like to take photos - now, publishing them requires permissions from the people involved, in most jurisdiction, for few exceptions like news reporting.

    Anyway since they can't make such devices useful to display informations to the wearer, they switch to the low-hanging fruit of taking photos and video of other people, so at least peepers buy them.

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: "It's generally legal to record video in public"

      "Just like to take photos - now, publishing them requires permissions from the people involved, in most jurisdiction,"

      No. Using an image of somebody in advertising would require a release in some instances, but you can publish all the photos you like otherwise that have been taken in public.

      1. kmorwath Silver badge

        Re: "It's generally legal to record video in public"

        No, you can't, in many jurisdiction. You can use them privately, you can't publish them. While you "social" page may be regarded still as a private space, even if publicly available, you can't use photos of people, and even many objects, when they are protected by copyright, at will.

        And if there are minors involved, it's even worse. Or when biometric data are gathered because they are specifically protected by laws like GDPR.

        The fact that many violations are not persecutted because the people in the images are unware of it doesn't matter. And that's why "social media" needed a law to not be responsible of what is published on their systems by people....

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: "It's generally legal to record video in public"

          "No, you can't, in many jurisdiction."

          Yes!

          One of my gigs is working as a professional photographer and have gone through loads of training on releases, copyright and the like. There's been cases such as a "fine art" photographer that was sued for taking and selling prints of undressed people in neighboring high rise buildings that he could see from his. The judge found that those people were "in public" since they could be seen by somebody looking out of their own window and the photographer wasn't employing any tactics to get around visual barriers such as using a pole to peek over a fence into a yard that wasn't overlooked by a neighboring property.

          While you may not agree, the law isn't always what we want it to be. If I take a photo of you and sell it to an advertiser without a signed release, you could sue. Even if you signed a release, there are restrictions if it isn't specific about things such as drug use, religion, medical issues or sexual deviancy to name a few. If you are under 18, there are no allowances for those special releases.

          Copyright is protection for creative works. You can't copyright a building or a person. A creative work also has to meet certain criteria to be covered. Some iconic buildings have a Trademark but that doesn't mean they'd have to be edited out of a skyline photo for the photo to be licensed. What it applies to is if I took a photo featuring the Empire State Building and it was used by an advertising without permission from the building owner. I, as the photographer, can certainly license a photo I made of the Empire State, it's the use case that could be an issue. If my customer was creating a coffee table book of famous buildings around the world, no permission would need to be sought. BTW, I don't have a photo of the building but a publisher I worked for did have an office there.

          The exemption you mention for "social media" is the "Safe Harbor Act" that agrees with those portals that they can't review everything that user's submit and are shielded from most lawsuits provided they address complaints in a timely manner (very quickly) to be covered.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Could I recommend you watch Anon if you can find it? It's an interesting movie in this context.

    If you want a very recent event that illustrates why all this nonsense is really not a good idea, check out the deserved blowback Ring had against its 'find the dog' ad.

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Yes so much blowback that this is the first I’ve heard of it. This kind of blowback is approaching boy who cried wolf stage now.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        GIFY.

        And no, we do not offer courses on how to use search engines or select relatively truthful news sources (the above may not be, I just picked one of many, many reports).

      2. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

        Ref "Ring Blowback" (eew / not a medical term hopefully)

        https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/13/ring_flock_partnership/

  10. Timo

    IR LED flare hat

    This is great, the ability to detect that these are nearby is going to keep things interesting.

    ISTR someone developed an IR LED jamming device for all cameras. Nearly invisible to the naked eye but it could flood the camera, like a denial of service attack.

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: IR LED flare hat

      "ISTR someone developed an IR LED jamming device for all cameras. "

      Most cameras have an IR filter or they'd be hopeless. "IR cameras" are often ones that have not had the filter installed. I know my phone is more sensitive to IR than some which makes it handy to see if a remote is working. It's faster to do that than to dig out the interface I built but if I need to see what the codes are, I need the interface plugged into my DSO.

      1. druck Silver badge

        Re: IR LED flare hat

        Most cameras can see near IR such as the frequencies used by remote controls, the filters are to stop much lower frequencies.

      2. tiggity Silver badge

        Re: IR LED flare hat

        My phone has night vision mode - that can be useful for checking remotes are behaving.

  11. _wojtek

    all meta block

    "Jeanrenaud warned that there may be false positives from other Bluetooth hardware by the same manufacturer (e.g. Meta VR headsets)."

    why that would be a bad thing? block all meta crap around

    1. Richard 12 Silver badge

      Re: all meta block

      There aren't going to be any active VR headsets outside a home or VR game centre, so it really doesn't matter.

      Nobody wears a bulky headset to the bar.

      1. _wojtek

        Re: all meta block

        that's true, but why would we bother Ir be cautious about those "false positives"?

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: all meta block

        "Nobody wears a bulky headset to the bar."

        That's not on the schedule until next week.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So ...

    You're wearing smart glasses in public? You can keep your glasses or you can keep your face. Your choice.

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: So ...

      You are not going to do anything about it.

      You can make comments with bravado from the safety of your basement on an internet comments page or you can go out in public and shit yourself at the first hint of confrontation. Your choice.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So ...

        A clear case of projection there.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So ...

        Dude, grow a sense of humor.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: So ...

          Punching people - great joke, well done you.

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