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Hosting biz Hetzner, one of Europe's largest datacenter operators, is warning customers that prices are scheduled to jump by as much as 50 percent from April 1. The increases will apply to both existing customers and new orders at its datacenters in Germany, Finland, the US and Singapore. Hetzner provides low-cost …

  1. Baird34

    Fair Enough

    Price rises are to be expected and could have been worse. I'm just going to 'suck it up' as an inevitability. Nobody is happy, well a few people are happy, but most people are unhappy but what choice does one have.

    1. big_D Silver badge

      Re: Fair Enough

      Yeah, we bought 6 servers with 2 Xeon Gold processors, 1TB RAM and 2 SANs with 60TB SSD storage for our main data center in October. I am now looking at updating another site with 4 servers, 1 Xeon Gold and 512GB RAM and only 1 SAN will cost more than the hardware for the main data center! Luckily the hardware on that site is not overly stressed at the moment and was coming up with the normal replacement cycle, so we are looking at extending the support another 2 years and see what happens to the prices in the meantime...

  2. IGotOut Silver badge

    Another reason......

    AI is possibly the worst thing to happen to the IT industry.... except for a few snake oil salesmen

    1. iam_sysop

      Re: Another reason......

      The Venn diagram for snake oil salesmen and AI techbros is the same --

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Another reason......

        Not quite. All AI techbros are snake oil salesmen, but not all snake oil salesmen are AI techbros.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Another reason......

      It does have one use. Using Googles AIstudio to monitor the second monitor that has the mandatory training questions on and then asking it what the answer is. Pretty much spot on each question.

  3. paluster
    Happy

    its a conspiracy

    How about we start a conspiracy theory that this whole AI thing is an enormous scam designed to push up the cost of memory, disk and CPUs/GPUs in order to price everyone except the hyperscalers out of the market.

    I'm waiting for the bubble to burst and produce baskets of surplus components marked "slightly used only one stupid owner".

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: its a conspiracy

      Are you a QTS customer?

    2. Jamie Jones Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: its a conspiracy

      The problem with that is from what I hear, most of this stuff is specialised (enterprise and HBM ram etc.), and no use to the regular consumer.

      That would make things worse - a surplus of technology they can't sell at all will be wasted money they'll try to recoup.

      https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/memory-makers-have-no-plans-to-increase-production-despite-crushing-ram-shortages-modest-2026-increase-predicted-as-dram-makers-hedge-their-ai-bets

      1. Kerfufflinator
        Joke

        Re: its a conspiracy

        Ahhh, so that means I should wait for the surplus HBMs for cheap, so I can make my own hyperscaler AI business shenanigans.

        *Greedily rubs hands

    3. rg287 Silver badge

      Re: its a conspiracy

      I'm waiting for the bubble to burst and produce baskets of surplus components marked "slightly used only one stupid owner".

      If only. But a tidal wave of used HBM and AI-oriented GPUs aren't going to help the rest of us. It's not like we'd get a glut of DDR5 DIMMs and x86 onto the market (although there's obviously some of that). It's all soldered onto single-purpose SoCs. A tsunami of single-purpose ewaste instead.

  4. Dunstan Vavasour

    Straight Communication

    Putting out a comprehensive sheet showing the old price and the new price is exactly how it should be done - kudos for straight communication.

  5. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    It ought to be convincing evidence for anyone that AI is now seriously distorting the world economy and it's time that, instead of going gung-ho for it governments need to be looking at ways to regulate it out of existence.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Will you listen to me now?

    Fucking sick of not being listened to. Was stuck on my own for a year as everyone sensible quit because we weren't being listened to and paid piss poorly. When you are getting on a bit and stuck with anxiety, mugs like me stay.

    Stuck with a micromanaging cunt and clueless no experience IT manager. I kept pointing out "Moving to the cloud will be more expensive". They listened to our MSP rather than me. Every meeting the MSP would shoot down my argument "You'll be getting rid of old kit, so it will end up being cheaper".

    I gave up and started keeping my mouth shut every week in our tech talks. Unless forced to speak I didn't bother.

    Role on a year later we get a new IT manager, same old micromanaging cunt is still there though. Finally it hits, micromanager asks new manager "Ask the MSP why are bills are increasing. Moving to the cloud was supposed to save lots of money". Next call I had a smerk on my face but said nothing as the MSP finally said "of course it will be more expensive. What did you expect? With the cloud you get convenience but it will always cost more".

    Fuckers.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Will you listen to me now?

      "Ask the MSP why are bills are increasing. Moving to the cloud was supposed to save lots of money". Next call I had a smerk on my face but said nothing as the MSP finally said "of course it will be more expensive. What did you expect? With the cloud you get convenience but it will always cost more"

      Last place I worked we moved everything to 'da cloud' as it would be cheaper than updating and looking after our increasingly aged crop of servers. And it was (at first).

      Then business groups started migrating their data to the cloud.

      Cue head of IT tearing his hair out because the storage costs had gone through the roof and what we were paying per month would have replaced *all* our servers with newer, more powerful ones and given us far more storage than we were using online. But, because it's runtime cost and not capital, it can't be used to buy new kit.

      Sure, end users wouldn't have been able to browse it all from their home PC (good - security hole waiting to happen!) but our data costs would have just been hardware maintenance, not on-going monthly costs.

      Just before I left they were proposing to bring server support & service desk back in-house and migrate some of the multi-TB datasets back to on-prem. I almost laughed.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Will you listen to me now?

        Costs are still increasing because MS keep putting their prices up. And obvious a knob consultant got hold of one of the directors and told him about "Cyber Essentials, you need it". Being secure is 100% true and needed but that fucking cert isn't. They are now finding out all their aging kit needs to be renew every 3 years, which they weren't expecting. Fucking fools, maybe speak to your IT department before you make these fucking decisions.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Will you listen to me now?

      Correct. Moving to the cloud very expensive.

      And there won't be a snail joke at the end of the scene.

  7. Jamie Jones Silver badge

    My backup VM server with them is moving from €4.99 to €6.49

    Why?

    It already exists. They aren't increasing the memory on it.

    Anyway, I haven't even started to build it yet, so I'll probably just kill it before I even get started!

    1. Lipdorn

      "It already exists. They aren't increasing the memory on it."

      Spreading the cost of the new purchases. Otherwise the new customer would likely be paying more than 100% more. Now everyone only pays 50% more.

    2. wolfetone Silver badge

      It's cute you think that the RAM and Storage that it runs on just lasts forever without failure or without need of replacement.

      1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

        Even cuter that I didn't think I needed to surround that sentence in the tags

        <Obviously they spread any operational costs, purchase costs, and engineering costs amongst all customers, but it's bloody frustrating none the less>

        and

        </Obviously they spread any operational costs, purchase costs, and engineering costs amongst all customers, but it's bloody frustrating none the less>

        1. doublelayer Silver badge

          If you knew why, why ask why? There might also be increased profit margins in there, and they will probably stay even when prices decrease, but you probably knew that too. Being frustrated about something you completely understand is pretty different from asking for clarification.

    3. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Because memory isn't the only cost. Electricity price has also gone up and I doubt you'd be happy if they stopped supplying new electricity to it.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Previously enjoyed electricity

        If it was cheaper, I'd be quite happy for them to keep supplying the same old electricity!

      2. Anonymous Coward
  8. clyde666

    Side effects

    I'll be sticking with my Hetzner services, in spite of the price increases.

    I don't remember the last time I saw a price increase notification that was so apologetic about it.

    Anyway, these costs are the side effects of choices made by others. Like the RAM price increases mentioned by others, which have been brought about by mad marketeers with an AI agenda to sell.

    It's the same as with your domestic energy costs, the price of energy has at least doubled in the last five years. The costs of producing have not increased anywhere near as much, the reason is political decisions.

  9. Aaiieeee
    Trollface

    "...rivals Backblaze and Wasabi... Their only advantage is cheaper egress"

    I have always been happy with the egress after the occasional Chicken Katsu. Backblaze does not sound comfortable though.

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: "...rivals Backblaze and Wasabi... Their only advantage is cheaper egress"

      Backblaze does not sound comfortable though

      Well, they do have a service called 'fireball'..

  10. James Hughes 1

    No point in jumping ship

    Seem to be qujite a few people (not just in this area) who say they'll just move to other providers/suppliers. Well, here's news for you. They WILL be increasing their prices, because this shitstorm affects EVERYONE.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: No point in jumping ship

      This Diarrhoea lifts all ships ?

    2. Jamie Jones Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: No point in jumping ship

      Fair point. I'll definitely "wait and see" before jumping, but I'm simply debating whether to ditch it altogether!

  11. Fonant Silver badge

    Server Auction still good value

    I have a server with Big Disks from Hetzner's Server Auction. Prices have gone up a little, but not too much, for this second-hand hardware.

  12. bartsmit
    Coat

    Pimped my latest laptop for Trump trade wars

    Any more AI wrecking of the IT industry and I'll be able to sell it and retire

  13. Kurgan Silver badge

    AI is fucking us all

    AI is a plague, and we all are its victims. It's destroying the environment and the economy.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Awesome news! Someone finally approving again the same frigging jobs on our resumes we could almost have soon in the 90s, but will never have, even if we did finally kidnap our deranged ex-spouses (with whom we aren't getting back with) and fly them to the past in the delorean either.

    Bad news! The cup is at like 0% capacity, and cracked all the way around. Riddles not welcome.

    Happy 18th, next DZ.

    1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

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