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The head of the Federal Communications Commission has called on broadcasters to start the day with the Star Spangled Banner or the Pledge of Allegiance to celebrate the US's 250th birthday. Brendan Carr made the recommendation when he launched the Pledge America Campaign, itself an adjunct to the Salute to America 250 Task …

  1. that one in the corner Silver badge

    Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

    > content that celebrates the American journey

    But only the bits that Trump approves of:

    The Trump Administration Is Intentionally Erasing the Black History Told by Public Lands and Waters

    Trump officials sued over effort to ‘erase history and science’ in national parks

    > John Philip Sousa's Portuguese father was born in Spain and his mother in Germany, while both Copland and Gershwin's parents were born in the Russian Empire. Ellington's grandparents were formerly enslaved.

    Well, see above; MinTruthiness. Chocolate rectify

    > start the day with the Star Spangled Banner or the Pledge of Allegiance

    Now the US is working towards a fully functioning Ministry of Truth, no doubt they will be braying against the ironically dated 1984 Pennsylvania amendment that codified students could freely opt-out of the Daily In-School Pledge (with the second sentence basically being a proviso that they basically shouldn't be aresholes about doing so).

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

      I'm not an American citizen, but I am a citizen so in the spirit of peace, love, and understanding I checked out some American history:

      A1 slop from The White House.

      A1 slop from Time magazine.

      Is that the kind of quality programming Mr Carr has in mind?

      1. FeRDNYC Bronze badge

        Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

        "A 1"? Like the steak sauce?

        1. DS999 Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

          Well AI slop is to actual content as a steak covered with A1 sauce is to properly prepared steak, so I think it works!

      2. Dan 55 Silver badge

        Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

        Education Secretary Linda McMahon confuses AI with A1, sauce brand capitalizes on blunder

    2. Tron Silver badge

      Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

      Great days in American history.

      30th May. Celebrating the day Trump was convicted on all counts in 2024.

      1. GloriousVictoryForThePeople

        Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

        There is so, so, so much potential for malicious compliance here. I'm amazed people are grabbing the invitation with both hands, and running with it.

    3. Colin Miller

      Re: Task Force 250 invites citizens to have a renewed love of American history

      His mother, Mary MacLeod, was born on Lewis on 10 May 1912. His paternal grandparents Friedrich Trump (b.14 March 1869) and Elisabeth Christ (b. 10 October 1880) were both born in Kallstadt, Kingdom of Bavaria, which became part of Germany in 18 January 1871. Kallstadt is now in Rhineland-Palatinate.

      Friedrich's story is fascinating, but not really fit to be documented here.

  2. fishman

    Real Americans

    Real Americans celebrate and exercise our first amendment rights.

    The others dodge the draft with "bone spurs" and throw around lawsuits to intimidate anyone on their enemies list.

    1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: Real Americans

      "Real Americans celebrate and exercise our first amendment rights."

      Sadly the Americans that consider themselves the only "Real Americans" are most notable in that they typically only "celebrate and exercise our second amendment rights."

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Real Americans

      Haven’t you heard? The 1st Amendment has been declared “woke” and is not included in the Official Trump Constitution, which you can purchase in a gold-colored version for only $1000 from trump.com. Anyone who persists in this “freedom of speech” degeneracy will get a free visit to a nearby ICE concentration, ah, detention center.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Start every day with the Pledge of Allegiance

    And don't forget to do the correct salute.

    (In case you don't spot it, Wikipedia provide <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bellamy_salutes_detail_in_1917,_from-_Saluting_the_Flag_NGM-v31-p361_(cropped).jpg>a useful closeup/crop</a>)

  4. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

    Dear leader

    It's always struck me as somewhat odd if not downright banana republic that the US is so obsessed with the oath of allegiance, the flag and the national anthem in schools, this move by the FCC is just creepy and I'm expecting General of the Bonespurs to rock up in an open top Hispano Suiza complete with white dress uniform, gold epaulettes and enough fruit salad to cure scurvy across the entire US Navy

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Dear leader

      As a British subject, I was somewhat taken aback when, several years ago, I turned up to Busch Gardens for opening time (to maximise time on the roller coasters) and they played the US national anthem before opening the gates. As TMBG once sung, "everyone was looking normal, so I tried to look nonchalant".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Dear leader

        Which Commonwealth country are you from?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Dear leader

      Yank here.

      Maximum Leader Trump has gone full banana republic. He's always been a sociopath and malignant narcissistic, even before the dementia set in.

      The American focus on (performative) "patriotism" really isn't that unexpected if you understand it as a consequence of the US being a relatively young melting pot whose unifying thread is some version of 'Murica #1 rather than a long, shared history as a distinct people.

      What is British Culture? French Culture? German Culture? Italian Culture? Greek Culture? Etc.

      Now do American Culture.

      1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Dear leader

        "The American focus on (performative) "patriotism" really isn't that unexpected if you understand it as a consequence of the US being a relatively young melting pot whose unifying thread is some version of 'Murica #1 rather than a long, shared history as a distinct people."

        There are British Commonwealth nations that in even shorter time spans that have accepted large and diverse cultural groups without recourse to the simplistlic mindless performative patriotism of the US.

        The distinguishing feature of those nations is the adoption of a multi·cultural model of integration eschewing the inferior model of the melting pot.

        The materials analogy of the strength, toughness and resilience of composites compared with the weak, brittle shit·metal you get from the alloy of random scrap added to the melting pot, is fairly apt.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Dear leader

          Any relatively young melting pot functions as basically a blank slate onto which can be projected a cultural identity which is more invented than evolved.

          Contrast the American cultural identity with the Canadian cultural identity. We've chosen to celebrate our status as Rome 2.0 (but with much better shopping malls). We choose to celebrate ourselves as "number one" in everything we do, and if we don't embrace something, then it's probably stupid and foreign (and possibly communist) like soccer or the metric system (/facepalm). Canadian cultural identity is much more defined by how people treat each other and get along.

          America's #1 cultural export is literally invented fantasy: Hollywood.

          The American has to be the winner at everything; the Canadian has to be kind, friendly, and welcoming. The American has to be tough, even violent, at nearly everything. About the only way to bring out violence in a Canadian is put him on a hockey rink.

          Both are deliberate cultural choices in building a common national identity on top of formerly blank slates.

      2. RobThBay

        Re: Dear leader

        American culture.. hmmm... Girls with Guns videos?

    3. Gary Stewart Silver badge

      Re: Dear leader

      "It's always struck me as somewhat odd if not downright banana republic that the US is so obsessed with the oath of allegiance, the flag and the national anthem"

      A lot of that came from the 1950's red scare. The phrase "under god" was added to the pledge of allegiance and all paper currency (it was authorized to be on coins in 1864) at that time. Just proves that a lot of Americans have always been easily manipulated by scare tactics and patriotic sloganeering. Unfortunately appealing to the current regime and it's backers sense of decency, morality, or allegiance to the Constitution is an exercise in futility. Luckily I have been seeing many signs that the upcoming elections may put a crack in the dam of that idiocy, I just hope that there are no "stern letters" Democrats reelected that are dumb enough to stick those letters in the crack (EWWWW).

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Patriotic Programming

    rm -rf /trump

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Alert

      Re: Patriotic Programming

      I wonder what AI would make of that statement.

      My money is on him encountering a very hungry alligator at a golf course in Florida, or failing that, choking on a Big Mac or missing the 2nd step from the top when he's getting off of Air Force One and sliding headfirst down the steps on to the tarmac

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Patriotic Programming

        If the latter, I'd check if Vance was following him out of the aircraft

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Patriotic Programming

          And, hopefully, missing the same step

  6. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
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    “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

    To be clear even Dr Johnson didn't mean that a patriot is a necessarily a scoundrel, but a scoundrel who has exhausted all other ruses inevitably assumes the mantle of patriotism. The scoundrel's love is less for his nation than for the integrity of his own skin.

    The US is awash with scoundrels of every persuasion so we might have expected an epidemic of patriotism and indeed we are witnessing another plague of US jingoism.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

  7. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

    The US Constitution is bullshit

    Right from the preamble.

    >> secure the Blessings of Liberty*

    * Doesn't apply to people with black skin.

    If Carr is so enthusiastic, let's see him honour John Brown for a start. Let him televise a reading of the names of the millions of kidnap victims who were treated as non-human property by good 'God loving Christians'.

    1. Kimo

      Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

      I taught American History for a small University for a few years. My classes would all start with the Declaration of Independence and the line "All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights" and see how close we got at any given point in American history. Usually not very.

      The problem here is that if we acknowledge the courage of the people who ended Slavery and paused Jim Crow for a few years, we also have to acknowledge the existence of chattel slavery and Jim Crow. The same is true for a large number of unpleasant facts of American history. The MAGA brand of patriotism erases the contributions of many of the best of us by failing to allow anyone to recognize the existence of the problems they worked at great personal sacrifice to overcome.

      1. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge

        Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

        The MAGA brand of patriotism erases the contributions of many of the best of us by failing to allow anyone to recognize the existence of the problems they worked at great personal sacrifice to overcome.

        The problem with MAGA is they see all the problems and injustices resolved as not being things which needed solving.

        The American History you teach, isn't the American History MAGA wanted, and is an aberration they seek to eradicate.

      2. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

        Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

        >> The MAGA brand of patriotism erases the contributions of many of the best of us

        For the religiously inclined, Amen.

        As you write, MAGA is drowning out other voices. The problem with MAGA is they are not a fringe group who got lucky. They represent a lot of Americans. The right wing 'Christian' mob are about the most unsympathetic and least charitable people to be found anywhere. They are nothing more than a very large hate mob.

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

      A good way for them to celebrate would be to take a long, hard look at their constitution to see what parts are still fit for purpose, which aren't and fix those that aren't.

      1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

        Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

        The right to keep and bear arm is timely.

        The drugs cartels in Mexico are almost entirely armed by hundreds of thousands of guns smuggled from the USA. But the 'from my cold dead hand' would-be warriors, who are mostly too overweight to walk to their local Wallmart, see only 'drugs coming from south of the border'. The USA often has rewards/bounties for drugs barons in Mexico. I don't remember ever seeing a reward for gun smugglers from the USA.

        Today we see El Mencho's army in Mexico, very well armed, able to fight with an actual army. Well done, USA.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

          There's only so far a fascist government can go in the US before encountering some extremely powerful pushback.

          They made a movie about a society where the government had all the guns.

          Perhaps you've seen Schindler's List?

          1. Casca Silver badge

            Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

            You really have no clue about Nazi germany...

            1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

              Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

              ... or American government weaponry, it seems!

    3. JasonT
      Mushroom

      Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

      Living in a red state, one useful way of explaining MAGA behavior, including their selective reading of history, is by recognizing their peculiar sense of aggrievement (Trump being the embodiment of this phenomena). Every law that tries to balance the scales for slavery and economic imbalance is an attack on business owners (usually white). Any acknowledgement of non-Christian religions is an attack on Jesus. Every recognition of women's contributions (other than breeding and maternally related) diminish the value of the hard work that men do. Every celebration of a non-western European culture is an attack on English or German heritage (although Russian is becoming more popular with the gun-toting populace, perhaps confused over what the "R" in NRA stands for). Every dollar spent oversees on mitigating disease, death or climate change could be better allocated to reduced taxes.

      MAGA Americans genuinely believe their way of life is under assault. They feel their culture is unappreciated (NASCAR, NFL and UFC notwithstanding). Their religion is under attack (although by whom, it's hard to tell, the "blessed are the poor, meek, peaceful, etc." guy doesn't seem well-represented anymore). Yes, slavery happened, but we're past that now, and any remaining racial animus is a reaction to the onerous laws heaped upon the poor white youth who are being forced to pay for the sins of generations past. Most importantly, everybody has the path to success, if they just work hard enough. It doesn't matter if you grew up in a neighborhood that was cut in half by a highway, gerrymandered to look something like an unbound protein molecule, or where public school funding was redirected toward private Christian madrasas. Anybody who is not enjoying God's bounty of riches is a lazy bum who has chosen not to work hard, open their own business and worship the appropriate deity.

      1. FeRDNYC Bronze badge

        Re: The US Constitution is bullshit

        the "blessed are the poor, meek, peaceful, etc." guy doesn't seem well-represented anymore

        If their religion is under attack at all, it's under attack from that guy. Or at least his complicated legacy, since the flock are constantly being compared — unfavorably — to the example set by that figure they worship so unquestioningly, uncritically, unreflectively, and disingenuously.

        "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition ... and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

        – Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, DFA; "The Colbert Report"

  8. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Hitler did the same...

    Oh, yes, we know. WE KNOW.

    Another thing Hitler did: Every time school starts you have to sing or say the first part of national anthem (in Germany case: The version of that time). Well, guess what US is doing since *checking*WOW* 1892 ? aaand WOW² "god" entered the picture 1954?

    I predict: Most won't follow that rule, just to spite. They will not "start the day", they will during the day, but just to spite him they will do it as 00:01 hours midnight or something similar "technical problems". And many will play a lot of patriotic music, but not necessarily "nice right wing" style. There is a lot of good "we love America, the country" music out there which does not follow the "we are number one" nonsense. (Like George Carlin: "The Country is fine, the people are fucked!" - THIS version is the one he used in his last performances, when he was an "old fuck" to cite himself. Before he used "Earth is fine, the people are fucked".)

    1. FeRDNYC Bronze badge

      Re: Hitler did the same...

      Few, if any, TV stations have a "start" and "end" to their programming day anymore.

      They USED to. When I was a wee FeRDlet, I remember local TV stations "signing off" for the night (usually around 3am / 4am), often while playing the national anthem over a loop of an American flag waving in the breeze. Then they'd "sign on" again 2, or 5, or a whole 30 minutes later, accompanied by more jingoist rigamarole, and start the whole process over again. But seems to me even that lip-service marking of a "programming day" has pretty much fallen by the wayside.

      And Carr really thinks it's worth bringing back just for this? What a maroon.

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Hitler did the same...

        Not only that, but US (main land + Alaska) has like five time zones? I mean, where do you define the national "beginning of the day" anyway?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Hitler did the same...

          Whenever Maximum Leader Trump descended the Golden Escalator, right?

          By that measure, we're in the year AD 12.

          1. Ken Shabby Silver badge
            Holmes

            Re: Hitler did the same...

            Is that Anno Donaldus?

  9. HalfManHalfBrisket

    250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

    One would hope (against hope perhaps), there'd be room in that 'American Journey' and 'American history' to acknowledge a somewhat longer timeline for human history in the US landmass than 250 years. Several million people lived there prior to 1492, and had done so for thousands of years. Include post-glacial Alaska and you're nearing 25,000 BP for evidence of humans activity.

    Trying to avoid slinging mud here: nothing inherently sinister in a state celebrating an anniversary, most do in some form or other, e.g. Diamond Jubilee in the UK, Bastille day in France. It's when it becomes an opportunity and licence for jingoism that I get the ick. It helps to remember that the dominant national story usally celebrated in such things is just that, a simplified story, one among many that might be told.

    1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

      You don't understand. You MUST see the landmass through the eyes of white 'Christian' thieves.

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

      I would have thought it would have been 1034 years ago at the very least, in the year of our Lord 992. This is real reason for Trump's interest in Greenland.

      1. FeRDNYC Bronze badge

        Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

        Your lord, maybe. Not mine.

        1. Dan 55 Silver badge

          Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

          It's never too late to convert to the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu.

    3. the spectacularly refined chap Silver badge

      Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

      I didn't realise America even had any history until I saw a few Jago Cooper documentaries. Far more interesting than the cartoonish stuff you get from US media outlets.

    4. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

      I don't think the people who were already there 250 years ago got a lot of say in the genocide that was performed on them then, and the descendants of the ones who survived don't get a lot of say about the country that has replaced theirs now. I don't reckon many native North American people have a great deal of love for those who are currently in possession of their land, nor care much to celebrate that it has now been going on for a quarter of a millennium.

      1. HalfManHalfBrisket

        Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

        Agreed. Just don't think we in Europe get to sit on our moral high horse about such things, that's all. Using a somewhat blinkered version of history to serve contemporary political and nationalistic ends is something found everywhere and in all ages. While I can hear myself sounding pompous and pious, there's a longer historical and geographical context here than the US and Now. Outrage at what the current US administration is doing here I can safely outsource to other commenters, no shortage of those, though I don't disagree,

        Unfortunately for the simple narrative, as other's have noted here, it's also partially a cultural thing that's not exclusively down to Trump and his cronies, however we might want to see it that way: with it's ubiquitous flags, anthem singing and oaths of allegiance, Nation Building has always been a more active project in the US than we're used to in the UK, and under a president of any stripe, the republic's 250th foundation anniversary was always going be celebrated with more patriotic huzzah than some of us right-pondians might be comfortable with. Not so egregiously jingoistic, but still.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          Re: 250 years only ? Maybe add a couple of 0s.

          Absolutely correct. We can only learn from the mistakes of history, if we learn about them. British history (and indeed the history of pretty much all European nations) is a long list of brutal and inhumane acts by the powerful against the weak. Over time, people have generally become more humane; if you look, for instance at the statistics of levels of death-by-violence over time, it has been pretty much a steady decrease over all of recorded history, which can only be a good thing. Incidentally, this is also a good reason to carefully question the motives of anyone who claims that this isn't the case, such as those who polemicise against certain places, claiming that they are experiencing the opposite. Such disinformation is a tool of fascism.

          Those who would pretend that the history of their nation is somehow glorious and try to silence the bits where it was decidedly not (again, the far-right "Restore Trust" group that has tried repeatedly to take over the National Trust in order to ban mention of things like the slavery that many historical properties were built on, springs to mind here), do a disservice to everyone, and are usually doing so as a way to spread division by claiming that things now are worse than they used to be, and that only regressing can improve them. The opposite is in fact true, as the German people found out in the 20th century, and hence why the EU exists (and why we were incredibly foolish to leave it at the behest of such rabble-rousers).

          History, observed from the macroscopic scale, has some pretty clear patterns and lessons to be learned. Observing them and learning from them is pretty much the only way that we can improve things for everyone, and avoid falling into the same destructive patterns that the past has shown, such as that of obscene wealth accumulation followed by violent revolution.

  10. scottro

    It seems that all headlines these days could use a template. Trump, once again shows that he's not only a moron, but evil. Today, one of his appointees, also a moron and also evil, tried to an illegal, moronic, evil thing. Today it is....

    And we should have a list.

    I honestly don't know if between Trump and project 2025, the US will recover. If it does, I hope there's a SAVAGE reckoning to make sure none of this happens again. It would be good to have our equivalent of the Nuremburg trials. Starting with Trump, who many medical professionals feel has had a stroke, thinking, What can I do to make people's lives worse today? And the media basically doesn't state the obvious--this person is a moron and showed it again today. I do wonder why a little snake like Vance hasn't already tried to have Trump declared incompetent.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Even after Trump and his fascist goons are gone, how long will it be before other nations can trust the people who elected him, twice, with the second time coming AFTER an attempted coup?

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Got it in one- I've said much the same myself.

        Trump and the assorted scum around him being in power *is* a problem in itself. But the problem, even if all those people were to drop dead tomorrow and be replaced by others less awful, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the US electorate at the 2024 presidential election either voted for Trump or were okay or indifferent enough at the prospect of him winning that they didn't bother to vote against him.

        There's no excuse the second time round that they didn't know what type of person Trump was or what he was planning to do. (*)

        If the US had clearly accepted that it made a mistake after Trump 1 and demonstrated that Trump was unelectable after the January 6 attacks, that would have been one thing. But neither of those were clearly the case- it was clear very quickly that support for Trump hadn't died and that there was a real chance of him getting back into power.

        Trump is- perversely for someone who built his career on cosplaying an idiot's stereotype of a dealmaking businessman (**)- not someone you can do business with.

        The self-proclaimed "dealmaker" whose "deals" are worthless because he goes back on them after five minutes. Whose constantly changing and capricious tariffs make "doing [actual] business" with the US not worth the hassle, who costs huge amounts of other countries' attention, diplomacy and political capital to deal with, only for the results of that to be rendered irrelevant within no time.

        The person who threatened to take Greenland by force.

        Only an idiot would risk tying economic future and military security on a person like that and the country that saw fit to put him in power.

        Problem is that Europe made a huge, short-termist mistake by letting itself get into that position over the past thirty years. This was already a mistake before Trump got in, it just took someone like him being elected- particularly the second time(!)- to make that mistake and the consequences of it obvious.

        Now it has to get out of it.

        That's not going to happen overnight, but it has to happen because there is no alternative.

        (*) Not that it wasn't already transparently obvious the first time round what sort of person he was or that he was clearly unfit to be president.

        (**) Never forget that Trump is a failed businessman who was only ever able to spend his life doing this because he inherited a shitload of money from his slumlord father in the first place... and ended up no better off than he would have been had he put it in a tracker fund and done *nothing* else.

      2. cookieMonster
        Flame

        If they keep their noses clean, about 500 years, give or take a decade or so

  11. tekHedd

    Patriotic... Education?

    Now we just need a Patriotic Education program, and the USA will finally catch up with China on human rights. We've been really slow to adopt the same types of nationalist programs and it's really embarrassing to be this far behind.

    #sarcasm

    1. Like a badger Silver badge

      Re: Patriotic... Education?

      Maybe the planned war with Iran will stoke the fires of US patriotism? The orange felon's popularity is fading, there's mid-terms in six months or so, so a bit of jingoistic airborne warmongering is definitely on the agenda. All the toys have been moved to get some winter sun in the med, so all set up and waiting to go.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Patriotic... Education?

        More like overwhelm our ultra-short American attention spans.

        Say, whatever happened with those Epstein files? We've already forgotten that Epstein called Trump dangerous and the worst person he had ever met (seriously, it's all in writing).

        What Epstein files? Let's bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D9LxjV3uWI )

        It speaks volumes that the Andrew formerly known as Prince has already faced more accountability than the elected American president.

  12. Slant Four

    little people

    The overarching thing about American patriotism (IMHO) is that it shows a country that lacks self confidence.

    This is a strange psychosis given it's relatively RECENT historical strengths (economic, military) but to me there is a scared little country hiding inside it's outward bulk.

    Thus it must at all times (this pre-dates Trump but he is totally emblematic of this) assert it's strengths BUT it only does so by picking on small countries/groups that it believes it can win against (again either economically or more especially militarily). And even then it most times fails to win.

    It can be seen in the chants of "USA!!! USA!!! USA!!" at any number of events. It can be seen in it's overly dramatic/overly produced political theatre.

    It can be seen in it's repeated telling that it is "the greatest country in the world"

    It can be seen in it's re-writing of history, especially it's WWII narrative that it single-handedly saved the world (i.e. beating it's chest saying "look at me!!!, look at me!!!) when in fact it sat on the sidelines and had the Japs not bombed Pearl Habour, on the sidelines it would have sat. Yes, it contributed to the overthrow eventually but it was a shared sacrifice.

    It can be seen in it's insistence that it makes the best of everything when in fact it's cars are crap, it's appliances are crap, it's food is crap etc etc.

    As noted, Trump ramps this "scared little boy" psychosis up to 11 and in a sense is America's greatest president by virtue of the fact that he exemplifies/Codifies all of the countries bad attributes into one vile package. He is America and America is him... the ultimate Ugly American.

    Buck

    1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

      Re: little people

      > [Trump] in a sense is America's greatest president by virtue of the fact that he exemplifies/Codifies all of the countries bad attributes into one vile package. He is America and America is him... the ultimate Ugly American.

      It's not just that, laid bare like this, this famous quote makes clear that Trump is lacking in the most basic "positive" attributes you'd expect from a human being. We all knew that.

      It's that it makes clear just *quite* how comprehensively and completely *anything* resembling "humanity" is absent from his character or personality. It's that there's not even the faintest hint of any redeeming positivity there.

      It's a long list, yet the most damning thing is there's still nothing there any reasonable person could disagree with:-

      > A sad, delusional, dangerous man.

      > No books,

      > No friends,

      > No music,

      > No curiosity,

      > No patience,

      > No integrity,

      > No compassion,

      > No empathy,

      > No loyalty,

      > No conscience,

      > No courage,

      > No manners,

      > No respect,

      > No character,

      > No morality,

      > No honor.

      > Not even a dog.

      (From "Unfit: The Documentary Film")

      1. Slant Four

        what you list reflects many Americans today

        Yes Trump is the most empty of humans but many of the traits you list are shared by a solid core of Amercans.

        But I don't blame any individual American as I feel they are victims of a political and ultra capitalist system working together over many decades to consolidate the available power and money.

        Why do 50% of adult Americans have a reading level no greater than a 6th grader (a 12 yo). Is it because they were all born stupid (no) or because the political and ultra capitalist system sees/knows that keeping people under-educated is an advantage.

        As Lyndon B. Johnson said in the 60's: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you"

        So for this to work, you need to keep people uneducated which then begats a lack of interest in many Americans in the things you list that make us a well rounded human. The political and ultra capitalist system then also eliminates critical thinking so that they can convince their base to do "stuff" that is not in their best interests.

        Classic example would be for the US to have a universal health care system such as exists in the EU, Canada, UK, OZ, NZ etc..but many Americans are convinced thats nasty socialism/communism when in fact it is the most important function a government can provide to it's citizens. Instead you have a Health Industrial Complex that maximizes profits/minimizes outcomes and unless you have a job you are screwed.

        Circling back to patriotism, the quote "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" comes to mind. The push for Patriotism is being used to again dupe/distract the low-information voter while the fascists continue to steal the country.

        Buck

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: what you list reflects many Americans today

          > As Lyndon B. Johnson said in the 60's: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you"

          ...and they teach everyone to hate Jews, whether it's Trump's traitorous Proud Boys storming the Capitol in "6MWE" shirts, or Kanye West threatening to go "death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE" and releasing a single literally entitled "Heil Hitler."

          American Jews are living in fear of this fascist regime and anti-Semitic cultural currents.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    America is becoming a parody of itself

    Clowns to the left of me

    Jokers to the right

    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you

    -

    Yes, I'm stuck in the middle with you

    And I'm wondering what it is I should do

    It's so hard to keep this smile from my face

    Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place

  14. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Trollface

    Correction

    Star Spangled Banner[Y.M.C.A. by the Village People] or the Pledge of Allegiance [to Trump] to celebrate the US's 250th birthday.

    Cowabunga[MAGA]

  15. Casca Silver badge

    Interesting that the usual trump defenders it not present here...

    1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

      I was pondering the same (typos aside). No doubt they'll turn up soon enough.

      1. Casca Silver badge

        I blame autocorrect. :)

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