back to article Attacker gets into France's database listing all bank accounts, makes off with 1.2 million records

An unknown attacker accessed the French government’s database listing every bank account in the country and made off with 1.2 million records. France’s Ministry of Economics, Finance and Industrial and Digital Sovereignty last week revealed the incident took place in January, after unknown attackers used stolen credentials to …

  1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

    Surely “suspicious attachments” is Tenga’s core business?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yeah, Tenga got a few awards for its products, but its website (linked at 'company said' in TFA) uses polyfill.io, so please don't go there without protection (eg. some sort of NoScript) ... ;)

    2. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      Good Advice from Tenga

      "...use more protection."

    3. Dr Who

      Fnarr fnarr ...

  2. Pen-y-gors

    Down with...

    "France’s government has mobilized the agencies that fight this sort of incident,"

    I can see Father Dougal now, standing outside the Elysée, with a sign saying "Down with this sort of incident"

    1. Ordinary Donkey

      Re: Down with...

      "Attention, maintenant!"

    2. ThatOne Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Down with...

      > "France’s government has mobilized the agencies that fight this sort of incident"

      A pity they didn't do it some months earlier... I'm sure those 1.2 million victims who now will face all kind of problems would had appreciated the effort...

  3. VicMortimer Silver badge
    Big Brother

    Surprise!

    And does anybody wonder why governments should not be allowed to collect this sort of info yet?

  4. Brave Coward Bronze badge

    Is it just me...

    ... or all this Internet thing is happily heading towards an abject failure ?

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Is it just me...

      It failed in 2001. But nobody seemed to notice.

      1. EnviableOne Silver badge

        Re: Is it just me...

        It failed in 1990 when they made it wibbley. Until then, most of its users were academics and techies, so they could be pretty much trusted.

        1. Sandtitz Silver badge
          Stop

          Re: Is it just me...

          "1990 ... Until then, most of its users were academics and techies, so they could be pretty much trusted."

          Ahem... one academic called Morris released a worm in 1988.

    2. TimMaher Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Internet

      Or maybe just the Wobbly Wobbly Web?

      I’d hope so but I think you are probably right.

  5. that one in the corner Silver badge

    Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

    One database to rule them all

    One Join to find them,

    One Select to bring them all and exfiltrate to bind them

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

      ... and one highly visible whiteboard to group usernames and passwords for system access ... !

    2. Giles C Silver badge

      Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

      Wouldn’t this come under the gdpr regulations?

      If that is the case who is going to fine the French 10% of their turnover and where would the fine go to.

      The question has to be asked if why they need this information in the first place, to reduce risk they could have just asked the banks to confirm who has an account with each of them (just an ID and code for each bank).

      1. Kurgan Silver badge

        Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

        GDPR does not apply to governments. They are immune to their own laws of course.

        1. ITMA Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

          And they are French....

      2. ThatOne Silver badge

        Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

        > why they need this information in the first place

        Tax evasion, money laundering, there are lots of more or less valid excuses. There is none for losing that kind of sensitive information though.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

          The vast majority of French citizens have done nothing wrong.

          ...and if they've got nothing to hide, then they shouldn't mind investigators reading their email too, right?

          1. ThatOne Silver badge
            WTF?

            Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

            Money laundering and tax evasion are a reality, not only rich people profit from it.

            I'm not defending the fact, I just say keeping tabs on money movements might be more common than just France.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Of course French govt need to collect details of every bank account

            "The vast majority of French citizens have done nothing wrong."

            Except just being French...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No worries, mates. Politicians have promised they can identify every Internet user and age gate the entire Internet without putting personally identifiable information at risk.

    Move along, nothing to see here.

  7. Tron Silver badge

    Go back to the future.

    Your intranet, infrastructure, and as much of your computing as you can should never connect to the public internet. No SaaS, no cloud, no AI. Use separate systems for anything online.

    Use simple, generic software packages to support your work, and use paper when it is safer, cheaper, or easier.

    Data is a risk not an asset, so hold as little as you can, and keep it offline. Or switch to distributed systems, so you don't have a honeypot of data, attracting crims.

    Or it will be a matter of time before you get turned over. Complex, large, bug-ridden and online systems cannot be secured.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I’m safe

    I rented a billboard at a major motorway intersection. It displays all of my PI.

    So far, it’s been safer than your average online “security”.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I’m safe

      > I rented a billboard at a major motorway intersection. It displays all of my PI.

      Aha, so you've outed yourself Leigh Delamere - I've seen your motorway signs!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I’m safe

        Leigh Delamere is a crook and a worthless imposter with links to Jeffrey Epstein.

        Signed, Michael Wood.

  9. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Facepalm

    "mobilized the agencies that fight this sort of incident"

    Sorry, which "agencies" are we talking about ?

    I'm asking because, in France, there is apparently only one agency : the moron who thinks he's a playboy.

    This, from a government who wants to "protect" the children by requiring every adult to register in order to be able to continue to access Instagram.

    Even teenagers can see through this bullshit.

    1. ThatOne Silver badge

      Re: "mobilized the agencies that fight this sort of incident"

      > the moron who thinks he's a playboy.

      For those who aren't familiar with France's who-is-who, who's that?

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Sex toy manufacturer Tenga said a "limited segment" of its US customer base who interacted with company support reps have had their details spilled."

    I wonder if those cybercriminals are vibe-coders?

  11. TeeCee Gold badge

    Let's parler Franglais!

    Ne place pas tout votres oeufs dans une basket.

    (Avec excuses au Kilometres Kington en retard)

    1. Blue Pumpkin

      Re: Let's parler Franglais!

      "Kilomètres Kington" - MDR - prenez un vote up !

  12. heyrick Silver badge

    And have they contacted each and every person whose information got swiped? And why the hell do they have a system perfectly willing to cough up that much info at once without flagging plenty of warnings?

    Putain! C'est vraiment de l'incompétence spectaculaire. Un pays plein des fonctionnaires et paperasse sans fin...et quoi? Légumes!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      And have they contacted each and every person whose information got swiped?

      No need, you can check online for yourself now.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    a question about the French leak.

    Did the miscreants run a select to extract the highest value accounts with the most overseas activity? If so, they likely got what they wanted and good luck determining which transactions are the bad ones in 6 months' time.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: a question about the French leak.

      Are you taking the pissez ?

  14. ruuffio

    What is AI?

    The subheading “AI helps cybercrims move faster, do more” and everything within it relies on the assumption of a common understanding of the meaning of “AI”. However, “AI” is one of the most overused, generic terms of the modern age. You need to be more specific if you want that section to be credible.

  15. A_O_Rourke
    Joke

    Translation

    "The attacker's access was restricted immediately upon discovery of the attack" = "The Stable Door was firmly bolted once the horse was spotted running over the hill in the distance!"

  16. Diogenes8080

    Does not compute

    Population of France circa 67 million

    Number of records stolen 1.2 million

    All records exposed??? Do the rest of the population manage by bartering onions and packets of Gauloises?

    I've read the preamble of the presse.economie.gouv.fr statement, and a better translation might be "the attacker copied 1.2 million records" from a database of all accounts in French banking institutions.

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