ICE knocks on ad tech’s data door to see what it knows about you

It's not enough to have its agents in streets and schools; ICE now wants to see what data online ads already collect about you. The US Immigration and Customs Enforcement last week issued a Request for Information (RFI) asking data and ad tech brokers how they could help in its mission. The RFI is not a solicitation for bids. …

[Gene Cash]

Now I have another reason to block ads (as if I needed one)

I'll bookmark this for the "if you have nothing to hide...” brigade.

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Oh, I have always an example for the "nothing to hide" brigade...

You drive through a town, accident happens in front of you, you are stuck for 30 minutes, drive on. Later you get accused "So your car stood 30 minutes in front of that brothel". There are tons of examples of invented accusations because you walked by a house where something happened. And they always try to reverse the burden of proof or disproof upon you.

[elsergiovolador]

> And they always try to reverse the burden of proof or disproof upon you.

Or they might just unalive the person as it is less paperwork.

[Captain Hogwash]

Re: unalive

“It’s a beautiful thing, the Destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn’t only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word, which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself. Take ‘good,’ for instance. If you have a word like ‘good,’ what need is there for a word like ‘bad’? ‘Ungood’ will do just as well – better, because it’s an exact opposite, which the other is not. Or again, if you want a stronger version of ‘good,’ what sense is there in having a whole string of vague useless words like ‘excellent’ and ‘splendid’ and all the rest of them? ‘Plusgood’ covers the meaning or ‘doubleplusgood’ if you want something stronger still. Of course we use those forms already, but in the final version of Newspeak there’ll be nothing else. In the end the whole notion of goodness and badness will be covered by only six words – in reality, only one word. Don’t you see the beauty of that, Winston? It was B.B.’s idea originally, of course,”- Orwell

[TimMaher]

Re: Orwell

You forgot the icon.

FTFY——>

[GoneFission]

What the "nothing to hide" crowd fails to consider is that they only need an incentive to go after you, not a reason or justification. If you're already at the "getting your digital presence searched" stage of being on someone's radar, they will either find evidence or materialize it themselves.

"But that's plainly illegal! I'll take them to court!"

Good thing the legal system is intentionally set up for impartiality and fairness then! /s

[Anonymous Coward]

"nothing to hide"

I want to hide from this lot, they scare me.

[wolfetone]

Adverts will set you free.

[Doctor Syntax]

The best way to deal with "nothing to hide" is to tell them to look through the T&Cs of their online accounts: banking, trading, work logins, social media, etc. and check for the clauses forbidding disclosure. If they still don't get it ask them if they'd like to share all those user IDs and passwords with you or, even better, publish them for the world to see.

[Anonymous Coward]

There's also this curious phenomenon that the people proclaiming this tend to be rather protective about their own personal details..

The louder the proclamations, the more shielded their own personal details are.

[TimMaher]

Re:- personal details

That’s why the ICE warriors are wearing masks.

They are going to Croydon.

[katrinab]

Also, having something to hide doesn't mean you have done anything wrong.

[anatak]

Ironic

That ICE are wearing masks.

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

On that Google remark in the last paragraph

"only to be out-lobbied by ad tech competitors who feared being put at a data disadvantage" no. Even the first available tests showed that it was targeted improve Google data slurping, and ONLY google data slurping. It was never about protecting the user. While the competitors were among those who lobbied, nearly every organization which fights for data protection (CCC, EFF etc) was louder.

[dmarti]

Re: On that Google remark in the last paragraph

Good point. It wasn't just adtech people. The W3C Technical Architecture group recommended against some "Privacy Sandbox" projects, too.

I collected links to the whole saga at https://blog.zgp.org/google-privacy-sandbox-timeline/

(And it's not 100% dead -- there's still an attribution tracking system being discussed at W3C https://blog.zgp.org/terminator-ending-for-privacy-sandbox/ )

[elsergiovolador]

Memory

I remember ages ago pointing out at such possibility. Got many downvotes.

History repeats itself.

[Throatwarbler Mangrove]

Re: Memory

Yes, you are literally the first and only person in the history of the Internet to raise a concern over the amount of data being hoovered up by the advertising industry.

[Michael Strorm]

Re: Memory

They're not- I much the same myself along with countless other people- but they never claimed that they were and I think people are quite entitled to point out that "I fucking told you so" when they did so in the face of smug and dangerous complacency back then.

I remember hearing the excuse that people didn't care because the ad companies were only gathering their data to show them ads.

And I remember pointing out that this was the type of juicy, in-depth data governments would *love* to get their hands on and asking- given the stereotypical moral reputation of those who work in advertising- how likely it was that *those* were the people they should trust to stand up to a repressive regime putting pressure on them to hand it over.

I might not have been the only person to think that, but, well... I fucking said so.

[Sam Shore]

Re: Memory

The comments section is full of people on the spectrum, who confuse should-not, with cannot.

[DrewPH]

Re: Memory

As in, should not post banal and insulting generalisations about people on the spectrum vs cannot post banal and insulting generalisations about people on the spectrum?

[may_i]

America, you need to fix your problem

You need to remove Trump and his cabinet from power and daily life.

Before it is too late!

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

They finally tried that once. The dude "missed".

At this point, it's too late. Would Vance make for a _better_ president than Donald?

Honestly, the "presidential protection policy" of the past 20-30 years has been, "Put in a vice president that is *worse* than the president. _No one_ will want that person to be president."

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

They finally tried that once. The dude "missed".

That came up in conversation last weekend. I remarked offhandedly, assuming no one would get it, that if you were a rubbish shot you ought to use a RPG. To my surprise a non seppo from "furrein pars" got it straight away. A bazooka might also serve.

Honestly Trump is a symptom not the cause. I would guess 40% of the US population are rabid MAGAts with another 30% fellow travellers to some extent. The residual sane~ish 30% likely wish they were somewhere else.

US Civics Term paper: Submit an essay on the topic—

"The essential differences between the Gestapo and the US ICE" [Hint: try to do better than "ICE agents don't speak German."]

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Who will follow Trump?

Barron Trump

JD Vance

Jared Kushner

[VoiceOfTruth]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

It is not just Trump. He represents the 'Christian' right wing mob.

I wonder if these ad brokers, and all the other tech companies helping ICE fascists, will face a Nuremberg style tribunal one day.

[Sp1z]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

I don’t remember the bible saying it was ok to fuck kids?

Sorry, just picked up on the “Christian” part, which apparently means it’s totally acceptable.

Carry on.

[Eric 9001]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

If you actually read the books that make up the bible, it does say that reproducing with your children is okay (Lot was considered the only righteous man in Sodom); https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot's_daughters?useskin=monobook#In_the_Book_of_Genesis

The age of the daughters is not stated in the fictional story, but in most cases, for a human to be able to reproduce requires being at least a teenager and not a kid.

The most effective cure to Christianity is actually reading the books in the bible - too bad Christians either don't, or were indoctrinated into the texts at a young age (in which case, reading it won't help).

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

At the time of Lot and Sodom, the bible hadn't even started to be written and it was only after the Israelites left Egypt that God gave the Law to Moses. It was Moses who wrote the first books of the bible.

Lot would have been in contravention of the Mosaic Law if it had existed then.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

I was always disappointed by the Mosaic Law.

It doesn't even point out you can always separate portions of the design using only four colours.

[Yet Another Anonymous coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Praise Penrose

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Despite there being no evidence that the Israelites were ever in Egypt…

Mere details.

[Tim99]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Some of the New Testament, like the ‘Sermon on the Plain’ would be a Christian exemplar. Why do many on the MAGA ‘Christian’ right, not seem to follow it, but seem more concerned with the more Bronze Age smitey bits of the Old Testament?

Caveat: I may be damned as I gave up on this in my teens, after having read all of KJV.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Let's just say that no book can make me do things I personally consider reprehensible, irrespective of author, cult or religion (but I repeat myself).

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

He will rather TACO, the same exact coward style his role model did 81 years ago.

[Michael Strorm]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Even if he had the guts to do that- and I don't think he would- this would require him to admit to himself in the first place that he had failed and been defeated. And that's the one thing I can never see happening with a pathological narcissist like Trump.

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

He will if USA is in the same state as Germany was during the last few weeks of Mr. H. alive. I hope USA won't go down that path.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Can someone please tell me why Trump is scared of Putin and won't call him to account for invading Ukraine ?

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

He is married his personal assassin...

[Yet Another Anonymous coward]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

He's jealous that Putin is so much richer despite only owning a poor country. So if he could own the richest country he wins

[Snake]

Re: Trump

Trump isn't "scared" of Putin, Trump is too busy worshiping Putin, Orban et al's powers based on authoritarianism and wishes he had that level of power himself. It is being noticed but, as noted here

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-is-right-about-one-thing-many-americans-want-a-dictator/ar-AA1UVIZL

35% of American's population *likes* authoritarianism...as long as they believe THEY will be on the beneficial side of it. For the dumb and stupid in the world, that number is the same ~35% that self-declares as "fundamentalist right wing" in surveys, and if you bother to notice the approval ratings of any fundamentalist / authoritarian policy will *always* be around that figure (between 32-39%, a fixed-percentage point in statistical history).

So, if American wants to change, America must VOTE for it. But with a large percentage of the population choosing to not vote, yet whinge about their lot in life from the outcome of those elections, I personally no longer give a damn to watch (their) world burn.

Oh yeah, to add to the reasoning on the fanaticism on both sides of the Atlantic,

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/not-just-putin-why-the-right-falls-in-love-with-dictators.html

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: Trump

> 35% of American's population *likes* authoritarianism...

I would more call it the blind faith and belief for their saviors... Their Neo from Matrix, their superhero from Marvel/DC/Whatever universe, their president, their the-one-person-(Edit: of course 99% men!)-which-will-save-us-all. To me it is a massively failed or, over the course of many decades, steered public education system which concentrates on inside USA. Enforcing the USA number one in everything belief, pledge to the flag, and don't look outside 'cause they are all poor. How else could so many believe that whole Germany would still use horses as primary mean of transport... Or believe that EU has no ibuprofen (No joke, that is real)...

That type is also so in for dogmatism, the "the only truth", from whatever book or preacher it comes from. This is why scientists have no chance with that type: All real scientists know their limit of knowledge, whereas that type want the only undoubtable truth which does not exist.

That is the one "good" thing about Trump: His actions hit MAGA as well, and some are shaken to wake up, showing that they are not the "immune elite" they thought to be.

[Like a badger]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

It is not just Trump. He represents the 'Christian' right wing mob.

It's a lot more nuanced that that. James Breckwoldt has done a lovely retrospective analysis of Trump's voters on his Substack, viewed through the lens of Simpsons characters. This develops themes of why people support Trump and Republicanism, including shifts over time. It's an entertaining read, but a big part of it is that the Democrats have over the years backed themselves into a corner of being perceived to sneer at and talk down to working class population. For UK voters, there's some notable read-across to how (notwithstanding the last election) Britain's workers fell out of love with both Labour and Conservative parties.

https://jamesbreckwoldt.substack.com/p/how-would-simpsons-characters-vote

[tip pc]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Yep

We need new parties that are not the same traditional parties.

We see negativity in the traditional parties & they are not addressing it

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

You have to "encode" that with slang. Call it "Lincoln-ed", "Garfield-ed" and for the really slow minded "JFK-ed". And it will happen the classical US way of course, 'cause there is only one US way to lincoln Trump. Since he even pisses of MAGA, the combination of "Gun-nut" and "nothing to lose" comes together more often than ever. And for US specific reasons there is no lack of those, rather the question whether it will be a small hand tool, a long-distance-tool or just the old tank grandpa always took care of (what was that movie name again?)...

[Michael Strorm]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

If America was prepared to listen to advice, they wouldn't have elected Trump in the first place- when he was already manifestly unfit to be president- let alone the second.

In 2024, the majority of eligible voters either voted for Trump or didn't care enough about the consequences to get off their backsides and vote against him and can be held responsible regardless.

America and Americans are the problem here, and should be treated as such. The rest of the world can't control or fix that, it can only control how it responds, minimise the damage to itself, beef up its own defences and reduce its dangerous reliance on the US, however hard that might be.

[codejunky]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

@Michael Strorm

"If America was prepared to listen to advice, they wouldn't have elected Trump in the first place- when he was already manifestly unfit to be president- let alone the second."

In your opinion. The first term made sense considering people had lived under Obama. As people rightly suspected the state security serviced violated rules, protocol and the law to pretend Trump was Russian backed. For the second election the people had suffered the corpse Biden and his replacement was Kamala and Walz? Kamala instils no confidence anyway but as we see with Minnesota currently with both the severe fraud and his support for insurrection, the US dodged a huge bullet.

"In 2024, the majority of eligible voters either voted for Trump or didn't care enough about the consequences to get off their backsides and vote against him and can be held responsible regardless."

And they should be happy about it even if they chose him as the least worst option. Seriously, he was the least worse choice!

[Michael Strorm]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

In your opinion.

Er... yeah? It's pretty obvious that's what it is and I never claimed otherwise.

Ever noticed that that people only ever feel the need to say that when they want to invalidate the opinion of someone they disagree with, yet never bother to apply it to themselves?

The first term made sense considering people had lived under Obama. As people [...blah blah blah...] the US dodged a huge bullet.

I notice you didn't add "in *my* opinion" here.

And they should be happy about it even if they chose him as the least worst option.

Oh, they should, should they?

I make no apologies about having whatever opinion I want about them and the consequence of their choices- that's my prerogative- but I'm not the one telling them what they should think here.

[codejunky]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

@Michael Strorm

"Ever noticed that that people only ever feel the need to say that when they want to invalidate the opinion of someone they disagree with, yet never bother to apply it to themselves?"

it was a reminder in case you were confused. You make strange claims of "If America was prepared to listen to advice, they wouldn't have elected Trump in the first place- when he was already manifestly unfit to be president- let alone the second."

"I notice you didn't add "in *my* opinion" here."

Sorry did I hit you in the feefees? Want a widdle pwaster? And as much mocking as I give you there, it is now known about Obama's Russia hoax and violations related to it, known that Biden actually was unfit to be President after years of gaslighting, Kamala's lack of support is public knowledge too AND I assume you have at least half a clue to be aware of the fraud investigation going on around Walz. So no I didnt say 'in my opinion' and I wasnt giving an opinion. Which part do you disagree with?

"I make no apologies about having whatever opinion I want about them and the consequence of their choices- that's my prerogative- but I'm not the one telling them what they should think here."

You aint? Reread your comment and you may see why it doesnt come across that way. Especially when you claim they should be held responsible in relation to your opinion about Trumps fitness for President, if only Americans would listen to advice (who's? Yours?).

One thing I will say, I do agree with you on one bit-

"The rest of the world can't control or fix that, it can only control how it responds, minimise the damage to itself, beef up its own defences and reduce its dangerous reliance on the US, however hard that might be."

To which you agree with Trump starting from his first term telling European NATO to do so, this term telling them to do so and has the leader of NATO Rutte praising him for it.

[Michael Strorm]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Sorry did I hit you in the feefees? Want a widdle pwaster?

I appreciate that's a stock one out of the Trumpist book of would-be-derogatory bullying, but it doesn't even make sense here. Attention was drawn to your double standards... r u mad bro? ;-)

You're clearly someone who wants- and expects- to be taken seriously, while coming out with low-rent nonsense like that. Your problem, not mine.

And as much mocking as I give you there

Don't flatter yourself.

it is now known about [ bunch of "facts" open to dispute and general whaarrgarbl ]

I suppose technically it *isn't* your opinion if it's someone else's opinion you're repeating as fact!

To which you agree with Trump starting from his first term telling European NATO to do so

I'm well aware of the irony- didn't need you to point that out, thanks!- that, yes, I *am* in favour of Europe spending more on its own defence.

But it's not to pander to Trump- it's precisely *because* Europe can't afford to be in the position where it has to rely on pandering to someone like Trump for its own safety. Europe has put itself in an inexcusably weak position by relying on the US for too long, and it has no choice now that it's clear it can no longer do so (and, in hindsight, never could).

[codejunky]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

@Michael Strorm

"You're clearly someone who wants- and expects- to be taken seriously, while coming out with low-rent nonsense like that. Your problem, not mine."

You seemed a little over sensitive about your opinion being called that. Perhaps it is how I read your comment but I do know the difference between opinion and fact which is why I often get downvotes for the unpopular truth without rebuttal.

"I suppose technically it *isn't* your opinion if it's someone else's opinion you're repeating as fact!"

So which bit do you not think is a fact?

"I'm well aware of the irony- didn't need you to point that out, thanks!- that, yes, I *am* in favour of Europe spending more on its own defence."

And still they wont learn. Europe wants to keep the Ukraine war going but needs the US backing it. Europe wants to stick its nose in with Gaza after the issue was resolved by Israel and the US. There is a lot of work to be done and I dont see them taking it seriously.

[ChodeMonkey]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

"I suppose technically it *isn't* your opinion if it's someone else's opinion you're repeating as fact!"

How dare you insinuate that Mme Codejunky’s work amounts to little more than the ad infinitum regurgitation of contrarian content she’s consumed!

There is plenty of original content. "Monuments to the sky gods" and "Sorry did I hit you in the feefees? Want a widdle pwaster?" are examples of edgy analysis and thought.

[ecofeco]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

Fascist numpty. Bugger off.

[codejunky]

Re: America, you need to fix your problem

@ecofeco

"Fascist numpty. Bugger off."

Did your brain malfunction or is this honestly the most intelligent thought that crossed the small space?

[Anonymous Coward]

You get the kind of government that big tech pays for

If corporations can be people.

Big tech can be god.

MURICA!

[Anonymous Coward]

"effective advertising [without] unique identifiers everywhere [you go]"

That does seem to be key here.

[Anonymous Coward]

It’s an RFI, response is optional, but open to the public…

Follow the link in the article and scan down near the bottom is:

“ Response Instructions

Respond to questions on Microsoft form …”

The link works from the UK, so probably also works from other places so ripe for exploitation by some form of botnet of chatbots…

I don’t really see why anyone in the industry would voluntarily submit information, as it puts them on the hook to respond to any future data access demands ICE may subsequently wish to make against whatever you submitted…

[Doctor Syntax]

Re: It’s an RFI, response is optional, but open to the public…

If I understand it right they would be seeking to buy rather than demand. However sooner or later anyone selling is likely to be sued eventually.

[Roland6]

Re: It’s an RFI, response is optional, but open to the public…

Buy? When as a law enforcement agency they can simply demand the company provides the data?

Also, I expect ICE will also find away around the “not spying on US national” fig leaf NSA presents when asked.

The only place I see “buy” entering the conversation, is with their discussions with the likes of Palantir about enhancing their system to support the ingestion of new datasets.

[FrogsAndChips]

Re: It’s an RFI, response is optional, but open to the public…

Buy? When as a law enforcement agency they can simply demand the company provides the data?

As the article points out, you need a warrant to demand the data, but not to buy it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: It’s an RFI, response is optional, but open to the public…

Well spotted.

I've submitted my response.

Proposed solution: Every member of ICE shoots themselves in the head as soon as possible.

How will this improve efficiency: It will save time and money of future trials and punishment.

[DS999]

I hope they know

That I will refuse to do business with any company that does business with an ad broker that does business with ICE. And millions of others will do the same. It will kill a company to have the stink of working with an ad broker that helps ICE in such an evil way.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: I hope they know

They do.

That's why they will keep it secret.

I note that Meta/Facebook have now decided to actively break the GDPR across all of Europe, explicitly to gather this information. Pay up or they slurp everything is clearly illegal, but it seems the Austrian DPC are still "considering" it (and we all know the Irish DPC are big tech lapdogs).

I don't mind adverts, what is unlawful is using my data to target them.

[Like a badger]

Re: I hope they know

I will refuse to do business with any company that does business with an ad broker that does business with ICE.

In which case you're not doing business with anybody above the level of a market stall selling craft produce.

The scale of the data broking industry is huge, there's thousands of companies involved, there's many incestuous loops between those companies, and ad-placement and ad-buying companies routinely pay the brokers for data. Even with ad-blockers, all social media companies will sell you out, most search engines will sell you, out, most ISPs and mobile networks will sell you out, credit reference agencies will sell you out, even big retailers sell your data. There's near enough zero regulation of data brokers (in the US, UK, EU and elsewhere) and no way of issuing a single "delete all my data" instruction to them. You could contact them individually, but that is going to be many thousands of companies, a good few of whom go out of their way to hide from the people who's data they abuse. And if they're a non-EU/UK company they'll likely ignore any data deletion request.

[retiredFool]

Re: I hope they know

Tech has really become a monster. Short of everyone going Amish, I don't know how it gets fixed. It is all about greed and maximizing the human desire to save a buck. And of course the advertisers are doing it to make a buck off those trying to save a buck.

[BartyFartsLast]

Not long now

Until adblocker usage is a federal offence punishable by death squad

[heyrick]

Re: Not long now

They don't need to make it an offense. That's too much paperwork.

Just send ICE around to put a bullet in your head and claim "you threatened them". Seems to be working so far, even in the face of video evidence showing the direct opposite.

[BartyFartsLast]

Re: Not long now

Like I said, deathsquad

[codejunky]

Hmm

"It's not enough to have its agents in streets and schools; ICE now wants to see what data online ads already collect about you."

It will be interesting to hear the anti-ICE stand with those who opposed the anti-Trump about mass surveillance and collecting data on the people.

[khjohansen]

Re: Hmm

I feel old - Remember the outrage over Obama's FEMA camps??

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

Anyone else wondering how he manages to navigate all those negatives?

[Roj Blake]

Re: Hmm

I am not unconfused.

[Bebu sa Ware]

On a related note…

I just noticed on the Grauniad site that a revival of Brecht's The Resistible Rise of Arturo UI presented by a collaboration of the Alt-rockers Placebo with the RSC (with Mark Gatiss in the title part) will premiere on 11 April at the Swan theatre in Stratford-upon-Avon.

I cannot imagine any of Brecht's work that resonates with our unfortunate times more than Arturo Ui.

I first saw a performance in the late 1970s — powerful in those possibly less intimidating times — how much more when it is almost the ghastly script of today's America.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: On a related note…

As appropriate now as in 2018 I think ... or maybe more so, as in retrospect 2020 was that "Don't yet rejoice in his defeat, you men!" time, whence "The bitch that bore him [would soon be] in heat again" (2024)! ;(

[Pete Sdev]

Re: On a related note…

The world was almost won by such an ape! The nations put him where his kind belong. But don't rejoice too soon at your escape – The womb he crawled from is still going strong

[heyrick]

" masked agents "?

Please...

Masked murderers.

[Jou (Mxyzptlk)]

Re: " masked agents "?

Masked cowards. Event he S² did not hide their faces. Does not make it better, but is shows that ICE employs cowards as preference.

[kmorwath]

You know why US is attacking so violently EU rules.

Trump, Vance & C. motto is "freedom is slavery" - and EU showing being able to rule to curb such actions is something they can't tolerate.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: You know why US is attacking so violently EU rules.

... not to mention "peaceful protest is domestic terrorism" and "murder is freedom"!

[SuLegato]

Yet another

Yet another horror funded by Tax dollars - data harvesters of personally identifiable information.

[Steve Davies 3]

Who needs Voter rolls when

The AD slinging world has many times more data about 'people' than the Voter Rolls could ever contain.

Just apply a little bit of arm twisting... About that unpaid Tax bill from 2019 and 2020 and 2021?

Let the data flow.

[Anonymous Coward]

Nightmares are made of this.

Why do I feel like I'm living as a bit part actor in a dystopian sci-fi movie?

[chivo243]

Now this?

I've been actively blocking ads for a long time, first due to the horrible ads, then bandwidth, then malicious payloads of ads, now this? I use Pi-Hole, and have been hearing about other avenues to block ads, perhaps it's time look into those extra layers of protection.

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh America

Oh how you’ve changed*

* publicly at least.

[Grunchy]

Free Money!

I heard that private companies are paying people to set up high-definition security cams that can read license plates of passing automobiles and log that info with date and time, So to get the money you have your own property and you promise to keep the camera running and connected online, and you just surveil every single car that drives past. Interested entities looking for specific license plate numbers will pay for the footage.

Money for nothing, chicks for free!