back to article Very tough microbes may help us cement our future on Mars

Tough microbes able to survive extreme environments on Earth could be the key to constructing buildings to allow humans to survive on Mars, according to a research paper. A global research team has analyzed the prospects for biomineralization on Mars, a process in which bacteria, fungi, and microalgae can create minerals as …

  1. breakfast Silver badge
    Alien

    A future mystery

    This offers a fun sci-fi premise- a planet full of seemingly random buildings with no signs of having ever been occupied, resulting from experiments with a tool like this that ultimately was never terraformed.

    1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Terminator

      Re: A future mystery

      Mechanoid City from Doctor Who The Chase.

    2. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: A future mystery

      Might also apply to the Earth once we really screw up this planet - especially if the AI janitors clear away the bones.

  2. lglethal Silver badge
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    This is a very cool area for research, but the problems are:

    a) scaling it up to being actually useful for a future base,

    b) performing sufficient tests in a representative environment to be confident of the results,

    c) getting the funding to actually do the research.

    I have no doubt with enough of c), a) and b) could be solved. But there is never enough funding for this sort of research. :(

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Where do they expect to get the urea* from? I suppose Martian dirt might contain it but does the regolith?

    * I guess a lot of detail has been elided here

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      urea

      Felon Musk accompanied by a few barrels of the finest cheapest American vaguely-lager-like "beer" product ought to do that job nicely…?

      Probably the best use for both.

      1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: urea

        For the mausoleum of first Martian Emperor, Elon I, I would be delighted to donate a bottle of urea rich solution.

    2. TVU Silver badge

      "Where do they expect to get the urea* from?"

      Astronaut wee? Seriously though, urea could potentially synthesised using carbon dioxide from Mars' atmosphere and from ammonium and nitrate salt deposits that have been inferred on Mars.

      1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Pint

        SLASH:1999

        Tony's Beer?

    3. MachDiamond Silver badge

      "Where do they expect to get the urea* from? I suppose Martian dirt might contain it but does the regolith?"

      Mars doesn't have a known inventory of Nitrogen. Since it's an element, it can't be "made". No N, no plants. There's also the need to have an air mix with an inert or moderately non-reactive component. Pure Oxygen is highly dangerous and CO2 is poisonous. I see this as the biggest issue that will have to be conquered first.

  4. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Just reading Andy Weir...

    There is a hint to a "tough microbes" source...

  5. cd Silver badge

    Lichen?

    1. DJO Silver badge

      The trouble with lichen (© John Wyndham) is it grows slowly even in the most ideal conditions.

      While bio-regenerating Mars would (sort of) almost certainly work, there is the slight issue of time to completion: it'll take thousands if not 10's of thousands of years to achieve anything useful. By the time it's done, we'd either have died out or will have had a better idea.

      1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        Heh. Reminds me of something I was told. Apparently, it was common in the 70s for the solution to a large computing problem was, "wait another year"...

      2. AVR Silver badge

        According to a book I read (from before it was figured out that the oxygen released in the Viking experiments was from peroxides) it'd be hundreds of thousands of years to get enough oxygen to breathe on Mars with lichen alone. The book was trying to boost the idea of terraforming to be clear. The numbers are so huge that any amount of design work before starting is justified, imagine what the chance of ultimate success is without an incredibly solid plan.

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          "it'd be hundreds of thousands of years to get enough oxygen to breathe on Mars with lichen alone. "

          That's stipulating there is enough Oxygen that can be liberated by the lichen which many don't believe is the case.

          1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

            There is enough rust on mars, so there is enough oxygen. Though not clear: Enough for how many :D.

      3. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
        Facepalm

        "we'd either have died out or will have had a better idea."

        I just cannot see the second disjunct getting up, can you ?

        Syonara I guess.

  6. bill 27

    I can't help but remember.

    As a child I learned about Hawaii and rats and mongoose. Now they want to introduce alien species to Mars.

    1. Ken Shabby Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: I can't help but remember.

      Cane toads came to Oz via Hawaiian, must be for the mutual love of golf.

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