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Ireland's Diarmuid Early has won the Excel World Championship. Readers of a certain age may be disappointed to learn he has never used Lotus 1-2-3. Early beat Andrew Ngai of Australia, in a Las Vegas final livestreamed by ESPN. The show was vaguely reminiscent of a wrestling event, with a half-time show featuring an "Export to …

  1. Dr Who

    Congratulations Diarmuid

    But you have to think that if his Excel skills are represented by mount Everest, then the average Excel power user's skills would be a small molehill and the average office worker's skills a grain of sand.

    In the right hands and for the right use case, a great tool. For the vast majority of use cases, a dangerous weapon in the hands of a small child.

    1. Caver_Dave Silver badge

      Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

      And used for the wrong reason so many times - writing letters, as a simple database, etc.

      1. NetMage

        Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

        I’m not sure it is the wrong reason to use Excel as a simple database (if it really is simple). What alternative is there that is nearly as approachable?

        (I think a simpler or more modern Access (Paradox?) tool is sadly lacking to bridge the gap between Excel and SQL Server.)

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

          Setting up a database (as opposed to a list) is understanding the structure of the data to go into it. Perhaps a simpler application would let the user start typing in what they though of as records, start storing them but also analysing them and reorganising them to recognise the structure and restructure the data store accordingly.

          For instance if it were presented with a list of things sold, including or der details, it might work out quickly that that there were two entities, an order and an item and not much less quickly that the "item" wasn't a single structure but included a product and likewise the "order" included a customer. The restructuring hat involved mightn't be too onerous as it would quickly work that out with a one to many relationship between order and item, between product and item and between customer and order. It might take rather longer to discover customers could have multiple delivery addresses and that they might not correspond to billing address and even longer to discover that product priced could change and the restructuring of the data might freeze it for a while..

      2. Andy A
        Facepalm

        Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

        One place I used to visit had a room full of beancounters. They used Excel for EVERYTHING, including word processing. I don't know whether they coped with the introduction of email a couple of years later.

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

      We also have dangerous weapons in the hands of small children/teenagers. In some cases, literal small hands.

      Thermonuclear weapons in the hands of Trump, Putin, Kim Jong Un...

      Will we still be here for Excel showdown 2026?

      1. Version 1.0
        Childcatcher

        Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

        As a young teenager we were all taught to make explosives in the school chemistry lessons in Rugby, after a few bangs we all were a lot more careful children with no more bangs in the class again. An environment where kids learn that seems to never exist with all politicians.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

          I worked with someone who had the tip of a finger missing. He used to do chemistry experiments at home when he was a kid. He was also a Perl Wiz. Not sure if there's a connection

          1. Paul Herber Silver badge

            Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

            Maybe he was trying (and failing, of course) to use the finger as a pointer in Perl ...

          2. nohatjim

            Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

            I also had a physics teacher who had lost a couple of ends of fingers as a teenager making his own fireworks. He taught us how to build firebombs and also took on out to the field and let off a banger that knocked us off our feet at 40 meters. As for the tray of petrol and the bucket of water on the long jump pit the less said the better. He retired after we did our Physics GCSE because he refused to teach combined science.

            1. Paul Herber Silver badge

              Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

              That's like the astronomer refusing to have anything to do with the college bar because it didn't have the right optics on the spirits.

    3. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Congratulations Diarmuid

      And I am the mole under the hills digging around the data tunnels usually with powershell. 'cause there I am not restricted to 2D sheets glued together by commands different in every language (dammit, where is the "English formula" button in Excel? LO-calc has it!).

  2. trevorde Silver badge

    Next logical step

    PowerPoint World Championship - God save us all!

    1. FirstTangoInParis Silver badge

      Re: Next logical step

      Co-located with the Buzzword Bingo World Championship.

    2. ravenviz

      Re: Next logical step

      Don't knock it, there could well be a medical use case in sending people to sleep quickly and painlessly.

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Next logical step

        Yes, a cure for insomniacs

  3. Paul Kinsler

    "but I do any serious modeling in Excel"

    I'm curious to know what sort of models this "serious modeling" referred to by Diarmuid Early involves.

    1. IanRS

      Re: "but I do any serious modeling in Excel"

      Global climate models? UK budget and economy? Take your pick. Excel can handle anything!

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Re: "but I do any serious modeling in Excel"

      A quick look at his LinkedIn profile... Could be Financial Modelling.

      1. Mark 65

        Re: "but I do any serious modeling in Excel"

        I’ve seen some fvcking horrendous financial models in Excel. Things you simply cannot unsee.

  4. MortyCapp

    The world is still run on Excel

    So many multinationals still rely on Excel for key tasks, it is scary.

    Coming from Visicalc/Multiplan, then Lotus 1,2,3, Excel and Quattro Pro, I still always check key values with my trusted HP15C and HP12C.

    Excel is a great tool, and there is a fantastic multigenerational community available to help.

  5. Grunchy Silver badge

    Advent of Code ‘25

    Hey if you wanna participate, there’s plenty of time to jump into the challenge.

    (The top contestants compete to see how many seconds it takes to solve the puzzle, people like me compete to see IF we can solve the puzzle!)

  6. Mage Silver badge
    Coat

    Re: Lotus 123?

    Visicalc (Apple II)

    Supercalc (CP/M and DOS)

    Cracker (CP/M and MSDOS)

    Excel (Windows 2000 & XP)

    LO Calc (Windows & Linux) & Gnumeric (Linux).

    I never liked Wordperfect, Lotus 123 or Outlook.

    1. Little Mouse

      Re: Lotus 123?

      20/20?

      I don't even remember what it ran on (Presumably either DOS or VAX VMS, as that's mostly what my company used back in 1994)

      I just remember my boss getting a severe bollocking when the bean counters realised he'd shelled out big bucks for a 10 year support contract for it.

      (Edit: A quick Google shows it was VAX)

  7. Winkypop Silver badge
    Black Helicopters

    My greatest Excel achievement

    Invoking the flight simulator in Excel 97.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: My greatest Excel achievement

      And I made it across that narrow ledge in the doom-easter-egg in excel ??? forgot which...

  8. Herby

    It might have been interesting if they...

    Allowed someone to use LibreOffice and noted that it DIDN'T crash.

  9. Kevin Johnston Silver badge

    Inappropriate use

    I still remember from back in the days when the office wars were a thing and I had a user call the Helpdesk asking why the spellcheck was not working on the database in their spreadsheet. That got printed, laminated and put on the wall as a warning to all Helpdesk staff that there was no depth users would not stoop to

  10. Blackjack Silver badge

    ["Export to Excel" musical number]

    Anyone got a video about that?

  11. Tim99 Silver badge
    Unhappy

    If this is approximately correct

    I have posted this link before: Rob Easterway's 2019 talk to the Royal Institution. He postulates that many (most?) spreadsheets are wrong. I have certainly come across many. He'd found the information on the European Spreadsheet Risks Interest Group "Horror Stories" section.

    Think of the poor sods who have been laid off in an organization because a distant bean-counter's main work tool indicated "too expensive".

    1. Blackjack Silver badge

      Re: If this is approximately correct

      Excel is not a database yet keeps getting used as one and Microsoft knows it.

      Excel is the main reason corporations won't ditch Windows.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUebmtJVVko

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If this is approximately correct

      Fairly sure I saw a report of the spreadsheet used by one G. Osborne and his pals to justify the austerity program. Apparently an error found two years later, when corrected, showed the cuts were not necessary. The estimate of additional deaths attributed to those policies is >300,000. Oops.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If this is approximately correct

      Where i work we generally use python or R for time-series based data analysis. Someone in another team asked for our source data in CSV form, which we gladly provided. A little while later they came back unable to analyse the file - it was 10 or so million rows of data. They were baffled that everyone wasn’t using Excel before this but less surprised afterwards.

      Excel is fine in the right hands used for the right things. Unfortunately it is seldom the case either of those caveats are met.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A former boss, an experienced coder, working at home under some time pressure, wrote his own discounted cash flow model.

    Finance dept rejected it because for the same inputs, their model gave different results. Guess whose was correct, the hastily thrown together one or the one the bean counters had been using for a few years to assess multi million $ projects?

    Good coders test, bean counters consider themselves infallible.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Y2k testing

    We took the opportunity to seek out spreadsheet models in use created by non IT end users. Often written by someone who'd moved on, of course zero documentation and sometimes pretty complex. Most of those got scrapped

    It turned out most usage of excel was as a substitute for a pocket calculator or for keeping pretty simple lists.

    The learning point from the exercise was that non-tech users have a lot of potential needs that IT could address with a few days or hours work but access to the right level of expertise was difficult. IT teams were focussed on the big prestige projects involving man-years of effort, no route for small tasks that could deliver worthwhile benefit for little effort. It was those tasks that a smart end-user could identify as a benefit but, without access to an appropriate IT guy, might try a DIY approach.

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