back to article Pebble, the e-ink smartwatch that refuses to die, just went fully open source

Pebble, the e-ink smartwatch with a tumultuous history, is making a move sure to please the DIY enthusiasts that make up the bulk of its fans: Its entire software stack is now fully open source, and key hardware design files are available too. Pebble creator Eric Migicovsky announced the move on Monday in a blog post and video …

  1. that one in the corner Silver badge

    But where did I put it?

    I have an original Kickstarter Pebble somewhere, in one of these drawers*. Hopefully, its charging cable as well (but chewing gum and bellwire can be substituted, if necessary). Something to help fill January's long winter evenings.

    * Stopped wearing it, replaced by an el cheapo Casio watch, shortly after the Fitbit thing happened and the Pebble lost a big chunk of its fun. Never really caught up Rebble, but now I have a bit nore time to play...

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: But where did I put it?

      I had an original Crowdsourced version of the first and second Pebbles. A while back I put one of them on EBay and there was a bidding frenzy, I got several times its original value.

    2. TheFifth

      Re: But where did I put it?

      I had the Pebble Steel, which I loved. Such a great watch and always a talking point when anyone spotted it.

      After about a year it started having screen corruption issues. Not all the time, just once every now and again and it would go away with a press of a button. This did seem to be a common problem on the Steel. Fair play to Pebble though, I sent them a photo of the screen corruption and they just sent me a brand new Pebble Time. Didn't even ask for the Steel back.

      I loved the Time even more than the Steel and was gutted when the FitBit takeover happened.

      I have both in a drawer somewhere. I may have to get them out and see if there's any life left in them.

  2. LessWileyCoyote

    Still using a Pebble Steel. The only smartwatch I've ever liked.

  3. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

    Tempting! Bit square though..

    Haven't worn a watch for years, just use a phone instead.

    Have to say if I bought a smart watch it'd probably be a Garmin. They have round bezels and physical buttons. Plus enough features to tell me what I already know - that if I want better running times I need to push myself harder.

    Despite being very geeky by nature it just seems a step too far even if supporting open source hardware is tempting. Shades of having an actual watch form factor Game and Watch in the 80s when of course I was completely cool, and wouldn't want to return to that to overshade my former glory *cough*.

    Is there anything it is really compelling for, when you already have a phone in your pocket?

    1. Henry Hallan

      Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

      For me (bangle.js not pebble) the advantages of a watch form factor are

      1) monitoring things like pulse rate

      2) the ability to check who is calling/messaging without the disruption of getting the phone out. Meetings are the obvious example, but a more dubious example (that no-one here would condone, I'm sure) is that it is not normally illegal to look at your watch when driving.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

        Go back in time, people used to carry a pocket watch which had to be retrieved from a pocket, they were put on a chain to help find them.

        Then, the military worked out it was better to strap them on the wrist and it caught on. The pocket watched all but disappeared.

        Now, decades later, some haven’t figured out why and regressed back to fishing in the pocket.

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

          Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

          Yet for some of us, (a) the phone could be lying around anywhere in the house, or occasionally forgotten in the car, and (b) we like the mechanical intricacies of a watch.

          I am, of course, old.

          1. nematoad Silver badge

            Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

            I too like a mechanical watch, automatics preferred. No batteries, no charging all the time and they do what I need, tell the time.

            I believe in the Unix philosophy, do one thing and do it well, so I don't have a smart phone, with all its distractions that they call apps. When I am out and about I don't want to be at the beck and call of all and sundry. Just leave me a voice message on my land line. I do have a thirty five year old Casio digital watch but there again it just tells the time.

            Like Neil Barnes I too am old.

            1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
              Windows

              Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

              "I too like a mechanical watch, automatics preferred."

              I rather fell for the Citizen Eco·Drive† as the automatics were a bit heavy on my slender wrist and wind-ups always stop at the most inconvenient (and hence thereafter, unknown) time due to my forgeting to wind them.

              † Imagine the Seiko Solar are equally functional.

              "do one thing and do it well, " — Just indicates the time.

              The date is too small for my aging eyes so I don't now bother fiddling with it on the first day of Mar, May, Jul, Oct & Dec.

              When your phone displays daylight saving time in a non DST region because of a telco cockup, a reliable wristwatch is appreciated.

              1. FIA Silver badge

                Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

                and wind-ups always stop at the most inconvenient (and hence thereafter, unknown) time due to my forgeting to wind them.

                I know this is pedantic, and I'm really really sorry... but the programmer in me can't help it.... Surely the time it stopped is the one thing you do know?

          2. BebopWeBop
            Facepalm

            Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

            'Yet for some of us, (a) the phone could be lying around anywhere in the house, or occasionally forgotten in the car, and (b) we like the mechanical intricacies of a watch.'

            I find one of the very useful thins about my watch, which is almost alwasy on my wrist is for finding the phone!

        2. FIA Silver badge

          Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

          Now, decades later, some haven’t figured out why and regressed back to fishing in the pocket.

          This was one of the main drivers for me for getting a smartwatch.

          "I just use my phone" people say... but that was always inconvenient....

          Sure, it's since saved my life with all it's health based nagging, but that's a side effect.

      2. Admiral Grace Hopper

        Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

        Pulse rate and SpO2 for me, I just hope that as my personal hardware degrades I don't need to add any further metrics to my monitor list.

      3. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

        Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

        I'm not seeing any great advantages here! Even my fairly low end 2016 car has Bluetooth, and can pair to a phone. I'd have to check if it actually displays the caller though, it's very basic and is the generation before Android Auto - which certainly would do what you want.

    2. phuzz Silver badge

      Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

      Is there anything it is really compelling for, when you already have a phone in your pocket?

      Even if my phone is in my pocket (and not in the other room or something), just lifting my wrist to read the time is much easier.

      Mind you, I've worn a watch since well before I had my first mobile phone, so my wrist feels weird if there's not something strapped to it.

    3. BebopWeBop

      Re: Tempting! Bit square though..

      If you are a runner, then yes. I do use an Apple myself, in part because it means I have a telephone with me (eSim) and don't have to lug around the enormous phone (bought for th sie of the screen and the camera) when getting out, although by SO loves her Garmin. I find the interface a bit clunky on it, but if you are used to it it works very well for running and swimming.

  4. Tubz Silver badge

    I just like a watch for telling me the time and that doesn't need charging every 2 days, yes Apple looking at you. A monthly charge is more than enough in my book and some minor customizations is fine.

    1. NXM Silver badge

      watches

      I have a 20-year old Mondaine Swiss Railways watch because it only needs "charging" once every year or two, and I can tell the time even without my glasses.

      I too am getting older. It comes to most of us, so just roll with it.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: watches

        Isn't rolling with it more for mechanically self winding watches?

        :)

  5. Blackjack Silver badge

    This is great news, can't wait for videos of people making their own DIY watches.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Still daily a 1982 Seiko digital

    Battery life is about 8 years.

    It just tells the time.

  7. JulieM Silver badge

    Idea

    We could just pass a law requiring suppliers of any product to release all the information necessary for third parties to repair it (including properly-annotated engineering drawings and software Source Code) or manufacture one like it, the moment they cease supporting it.

    If you are not taking proper care of the things you have been trusted with the custody of, they should be taken from you and given to someone who can make better use of them.

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