Simples
Everyone should just become a billionaire.
Why didn’t I think of that earlier?
Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has suggested Indian citizens should work 72-hour weeks, up from his previous target of 70 hours. Murthy has for years argued that 70-hour weeks are necessary to advance India’s economy, and can be accommodated if the nation reverts to a one-day weekend. His remarks have stirred controversy …
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"I am coming to see much of our current strife in the context of older, wiser statesmen:
Either poverty will use democracy to win the struggle against property, or property, in fear of poverty, will destroy democracy"
Nice quote. It's the sort of thing I see. Plenty of whinging about people not being able to get on the property ladder........ somewhere with really high property prices. Duh! They® should pass a law that requires homes in Beverly Hills to cost no more than those in Watts so people on the dole can afford them.
"Everyone should just become a billionaire.
Why didn’t I think of that earlier?"
Even easier is to follow the California Confederacy's example and award everybody that graduates from high school a bachelor's degrees since people with a BS earn more money. Back date it 8 years and Chandrasekhar is your uncle.
Principals in a company are building their wealth just by existing. The bulk of the workforce have no such stake, they just earn a wage and like all barnyard animals if they fail to produce then they're sent to the knackers. Obviously its in the principals' interests to get everyone to work as hard and for as long as possible using any strategy they can get away with with the appeal to civic duty being one of the most cost effective.
"Pie in the sky", I believe its called.
(From an old song by Joe Hill, "The Preacher and the Slave"....
You will eat, bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky;
Work and pray, live on hay,
You'll get pie in the sky when you die.
BTW -- "Its a lie!")
I was about to say the same thing. Usual case of a "self-made" prick telling other people they should work harder to make *him* rich. Well he would, wouldn't he?
People like him forget- or pretend to forget- that they were working *their* asses off because it was *their* company and *they* were the ones who were going to reap the rewards of all that work. Is it likely he'd have done so as a salaried employee with only the carrot of a promotion up the management rack dangled in front of him? Not a chance- why would he?
Anyone who expects their employees to work as hard as they (supposedly) did when they started the company had better be prepared to offer them the same level of reward, i.e. significant equity in a company that's likely to make them very rich.
I'd say this is a case of put up or shut up, but he couldn't "put up" even if he wanted to- it's an established company that's not going to grow by that much. Or put another way, the pie isn't big enough to give that many employees that big a slice, regardless of how hard they work.
Which only leaves "shut up", then.
Irony is that this guy depends upon people working *for* him when he wasn't prepared to be a wage slave himself.
The majority of people aren't workaholic entrepreneurs and don't want to be, but you can't expect ordinary employees to work that hard without the same reward.
Well, okay... you *can* expect that if you're a self-serving hypocritical prick like this guy.
There's always an exception to the rule, though. Suppose I was an employee of Huawei, a successful company that was actually owned by its employees, when some foreign government decided that it had to make us fail, introducing legislation that actively suppressed our markets and pressuring other countries to do the same. Forget '996' -- I'd be working my tail off to make sure this didn't happen, that my company was successful despite their best efforts.
...and this, folks, is how entity lists, sanctions and what-have-you backfire. Its not a unique phenomenon and its not exclusive to China. But think -- just at the point where China was becoming just like us (the US) we reminded them of who they are and what they stood for. Smart move, pols!
"The bulk of the workforce have no such stake, they just earn a wage and like all barnyard animals if they fail to produce then they're sent to the knackers. "
And they've never been taught by their parent or the system, techniques for getting ahead and building wealth. I should have bookmarked the channel, but I was watching a YT video where a person was asking students on a college campus dead simple questions. "How long is a quarter hour?" If it was just one person that said "25 minutes", I could spot the liberal arts major, but it was rampant. Groups of people would go along with that answer. The question was asked rephrased as "If we were to meet up at quarter after 5, what time would it be". Mic drop, "5:25". 3^3=9 was also typical. Maffs iz not der bess subjict. Rephrased as "3 times 3 times 3" illicited the same answer of "9".
We're doomed.
Out of over 30 people quizzed only a couple got the questions correct. I get the concept of editing, but to find as many people that don't know simple math on a college campus should be much more difficult.
Infosys Limited reported annual revenue of approximately $19.28 billion for the fiscal year 2025, with a net profit ranging between $3.2 billion and $4.4 billion during the same period. Outsourcing makes money for the outsourcer but I doubt the end product is of quality given the continuous churn of low cost staff.
ps: no fricken way do a seventy hour week!
"wanting billions in the bank is surely a mental disease."
I don't know about that. I'd love to have billions in the bank, but I'm not a fan of grinding the faces of the poor to get there and don't want to work hard enough to earn that much (if that's even possible).
I work hard enough to pay the bills with money left over to play. I happen to be putting more effort into earning money right at the moment to buy a new(ish) car before my one breaks. The house is paid off and the current car is owned outright. I've been working towards generating my own electricity so my bill keeps going down as tariffs continue to rise. I have enough food stored for a year although I'd be really fed up with the selection so I'm working on that. Buying in season when things are on offer and putting a Sunday into preserving the haul has drastically lowered my monthly food bill. Not very good return on what I've put into the garden on a financial basis, but its been good for the soul and quality. I do win on herbs as those are dear at the shops. The Rosemary bush needs to be hacked back its done so well.
Maybe he hasn't noticed the size of the population in India, the numbers who want to get into IT work and is not aware of shift-work? Does cost more to have two people do 40 hour weeks, one following the other on 8 hour shifts or one person "burning out" doing 6x12 hours days? If he want;s 70 hours per week per job, "just offer two jobs of 35 hours per week each. There should be no significant overheads increase, certainly not significantly noticeable in the $billions in annual profits. Fewer hours mostly means happier workers and more likley to not be making mistakes near the end of a 12 hour shift or at the end of a 6 day week. Or does he pay so little a 35-50 hour week isn't enough to live on?
I think he pays salaries to most of the workers, so he wants to increase the hours without increasing the payments proportionally or maybe at all (I've yet to see the full spec for this plan if he even has one). Doubling hours and doubling expenses isn't the plan.
"Fewer hours mostly means happier workers and more likley to not be making mistakes near the end of a 12 hour shift or at the end of a 6 day week."
It also adds loads more redundancy for holiday and when people leave for whatever reason. There's also somebody left with bandwidth remaining to train up the next person.
"Gotta make sure you keep driving India further into poverty. "
To improve the prospects for the country as a whole, a normal 30-40 work week and incentives for adding side hustles would be better. People with time and motivation can be much more creative. Creativity can lead to new marketable products, improvements to existing products, etc. With only one day a week off work, all I'd have time for is some house cleaning and laundry. I'd be eating loads of ready meals too as I'd not have the time for much else. No time for Bollywood so kiss that market goodbye.
"and yet our government has no problem giving this idiot money and sending our jobs over to india."
Well yeah how else do the politicians stay in power? Offshore as many jobs as possible, suppress wages, make huge amounts of money through consultancies and then blame immigrants for all the countries problems.
"Well yeah how else do the politicians stay in power? "
Concentrate the majority of wealth in a few companies and individuals that understand they need to contribute "campaign funds" to keep their patron in office so the contracts and legal rulings keep going their way. A few million here and there isn't much of an expense to a billionaire. A few hundred to a wage slave is the difference between having meat on Sundays or having to be a vegetarian whether they want to or not.
...which is a far bigger problem than "boat people coming over here taking our jobs" - at least some of that money would stay in the economy at least and drive other jobs. Offshoring is the worst of all worlds and should be outright banned, unless it's a capability that genuinely doesn't exist in our own country. In which case incentivise onshoring it.
that there Dan Price paid ALL his workers at $70 000, there was laughter in the streets at his suicide mission, now, six years on, all is still thriving, people actually WANT to come into work, and get paid a proper wage for doing so - who knew :O <3
CEO who gave all his employees minimum $70,000 paycheck thriving six years later
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/ceo-who-gave-all-his-employees-minimum-70-000-paycheck-thriving-six-years-later-b2194735.html
Exactly.
Except, of course, he couldn't even if he was prepared to. The pie isn't big enough to give every employee that big a slice.
The only way they'll get that is by leaving and starting their own company. As he did.
He wasn't going to slave away making someone else rich, he did so purely for himself. Only a mug of an employee would take his "advice" and do so on behalf of this self-serving bellend if they weren't being paid handsomely to do so.
Which, of course, no-one at Infosys is, since their business model has always relied on charging customers premium prices while paying their employees peanuts, with the expected quality of results.
As someone once noted, there are plenty of talented IT people in India, but you won't find them working at Infosys because why would they?
The UK's Met Office is in the process of changing their website. Out goes the old web site that combined simplicity of key messages and efficient layout with ease of access to rich detail for those who needed it, and in comes a horrible big print wax crayon affair that focuses on basics for the easily pleased. I wonder how much it has cost us for them to make things worse?
I have already fed back that sort of info, but expect it will be ignored in the crayon enshittification process. You can add '?new-design=false' to the URL to get the old style for now, but WTF are the designers thinking? Clearly they don't actually use a weather web site for anything important.
"I wonder how much it has cost us for them to make things worse?"
The Australian Bureau of Meteorology recently managed to piss a mere AUD96 million up the wall to fuck up their web site. Admittedly bit of a mixed metaphor but the same tool is usually involved.
I guess more in the UK as the Brits are generally better at this sort of thing. :)
Yep, I noticed this and in the pop-up feedback prompt I advised that the 'Fisher-price' re-design was not useful as the old tabular format gave more information in a smaller space in a form that people are used to processing ... i.e. tabular.
Pretty designs are visually noticable but convey information badly, too many colours and fonts that don't impart anything of value.
The old design worked and was obviously created with information transfer as part of its design objectives.
The new design takes up too much space and is not friendly to phone display.
The old design did have symbols that were a bit small but you could work out what they meant as they were similar to the Weather report symbols, after the main news.
You can at the moment go back to the old design as an option on the site.
Always people ignore the old but valid advice ... IF it ain't broken don't fix it !!!
:)
It's not legal in India, which is why he has to keep asking for it. He keeps thinking that just saying "this will make India the most powerful nation in the world" will make them pass the laws he wants. Maybe someday he will be correct about that, but it hasn't worked so far.
"Maybe someday he will be correct about that, but it hasn't worked so far."
The USSR had farmers required to grow given crops for the main market and let them have a small private plot for their own use. More work was put into those private patches as they returned the most for the effort.
Wealthy Billionaire, living in a bubble, spouts shit that only serves to benefit Wealthy Billionaire and others living in that bubble.
996 is only supportable in very, very short spurts. Actual questions of survival then come in to play.
Like, do I have time to shop for basic essentials and cook nourishing food?
Do I have time to perform basic hygiene and health related activities? Can I clean my living space?
Do I have time to perform basic administrative tasks, such as paying bills and taxes?
Do I have time for basic rest, so i can actually function the next day?
Do I have time to maintain basic human relationships, necessary for good mental health?
(Missing a whole bunch more, not even touched some of the higher needs)
If you have sufficient wealth you can delegate points 1 to 4 above, you can probably manage to do number 5 on a sunday only. And if not, there are enough suppliers of chemical substitutes for number 5. I bet "INSERT BILLIONAIRE NAME HERE" has not cleaned a toilet and discovered they need to go to the shops and buy more dunny cleaner. And then been annoyed because shops are closed and/or run out of dunny cleaner, turning at 30 minute annoyance into 2 hour marathon.
The rest of us grapple with 1 through 5 every day. They take time and their own effort.
The so-called financial rewards provided by "INSERT BILLIONAIRE NAME HERE" are simply not sufficient. Never have been, and they certainly aren't now. Pay us a wage sufficient that I can employ a cook and cleaner, a lawyer, an accountant, a bed in a posh house in a nice leafy suburb, a driver to drive my comfortable car, and I'll think about out. But, "INSERT BILLIONAIRE NAME HERE" will cry, that will hurt profits. Oh dear, how sad, never mind. If you don't pay, you wont get 996.
Already running on a hamster wheel, not going to run longer or faster on that same wheel, unless the rewards are reasonably shared.
The $96 million cost is still only a fraction of the "true cost" (the amount of money spent on the exercise.) And since the much larger sum was actually spent on "the significant investment required to fully rebuild and test the systems and technology that underpin the website, making sure it is secure and stable and can draw in the huge amounts of data", it's still not clear what 92 million difference between 4 and 96 was actually spent on.
The whole exercise was opaque, done by an independent division of mostly contractors, outside the normal BOM organization. And the BOM staff feal that, even if the back-end cost was justified, the actual website front-end is a hot mess, and is only being continued to maintain the illusion that management didn't make career-limiting mistakes.
not sure about that. Iterations didn't change the look in the months I tried the earlier beta test site. and stopped due to its unusability. I could see good pointsin data density,( ie time of probable rain) in the lower layers, but was blindsided by top page being so low on information. BOM weather forecast quality has also dropped significantly. In North Queensland it is regarded as a joke with unannounced storms blowing thru. Even in my southern locality unforecast but very welcome rain has come thru this week. ( nope, not cutting hay, unlike neighbours) Now using the Kiwi WeatherwatchTV website instead. If all else fails the old site exists as http://reg.bon.gov.au
> "India does not lack for talented and intelligent people"
This is no doubt true. But, as has been observed, very few of those genuinely talented and intelligent people are likely to be interested in working for peanuts at Infosys when they can earn far more at countless other companies or working for themselves.
Billionaires everywhere are the same. The reference points just change, there is no "enough".
The European tycoons complain that the peons do not work as many hours as the Americans. The American oligarchs complain that the serfs refuse to work 70 hour workweeks unless they get startup options - Indians do that as a matter of course. In India, even the 70 hour workweeks are insufficient, because in China the (illegal) number is slightly higher than that, which clearly is the only reason China is pulling ahead of India in some ways.
The American thing is related to a particular Jeff Bezos innovation, by the way: as startup employees tend to work incredibly hard for a few years due to the size of the financial carrot dangled in front of them, then this clearly means corporate employees COULD work just as many hours for no extra pay, and the reason they don't is laziness. So surely getting this amount of work out of everybody just requires an algorithmic whip of sufficient severity.
I'm sure those brain burnt staff are delivering an excellent quality service as well.
Of your if you can get one person to work for 70hr then you don't need to employ two people on 35hr.
Even if that one person is so messed up they only deliver 25% of the output.
Still you'll be planning on replacing them with AI anyway.
Nobody works well when they are tired.
Nobody should be making changes to production systems when they are tired.
Nobody should be planning changes to a production system when they are tired.
The end customers won't be happy about having people that are not well rested managing their critical IT systems.
None of this is sensible for the people on the ground doing the actual work
When founders or upper management talk about doing more hours ( for free ) or showing "more commitment"..
Maybe they should start that conversation with "hey dude ..you are now a stake holder in the company!"
Unless I own part of the company I don't care about doing anything beyond my job, my actual job. You know the ACTUAL thing that you pay me for.
I don't know what all the fuss is about, it's an easy fix.
Step 1 chain your employees at the ankle to their workstation.
Step 2 Get a large muscly bloke at the top of the room with a big drum
Step 3 beat the drum to a regular cadence
Step 4 beat the drum faster when more "work" is required.
This looks fantastic on my spreadsheet where I can adjust inputs like food and water, performance vs BPM, solved the whole WFH nonsense my means of hardened steel shackles.
As a result my KPIs are all in the green, bonus time is looking good, any board related questions on productivity can be graphed and PowerPoint'd to death.
A ceo or owner that pushed this on their staff is in empathic at the least. It's a nasty, miserly approach that I'm sure some ultra wealthy adore because it benefits their pocket book.
Yes some founders will score with it it's their baby. Some new business owners find they can't do much else as the buck stops with them. This doesn't mean it's right for most nor fair. Life is NOT simply for owners of big business to squeeze meaning out of life for their employees with shitty 996 and worse demands.
Some folks are lucky and find their meaning, their identity, in the work they do and for them often heroic work hours really do have meaning and they find it odd others don't. We are all different.
But life is more than someone else's profit line.