back to article Lawsuit seeks to probe Uncle Sam's role in ICE-tracking app takedowns

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is suing two government departments to understand how they compelled tech companies to remove ICE-tracking apps and websites from their platforms. It is bringing the case against the Department of Justice (DoJ) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to find out if they used …

  1. Smeagolberg

    TOLotF

    The Land of the Free?

    It'll be interesting to see how the rulers of TLotF respond to this:

    (1) in what would once have been thought of as The American Way, or

    (2) in what Americans would once have called the Russian or the Chinese way.

    The Ruler in Chief now seems to be besties with Russia. Times change.

    1. blu3b3rry Silver badge
      Black Helicopters

      Re: TOLotF

      Some would say that Comrade Krasnov is just doing what his handlers tell him.

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Alert

        Re: TOLotF

        Daniel Hannan, in the Daily Telegraph of 22nd November 2025 writes:

        "As I have mournfully written before, I don’t believe the claims that Putin has kompromat on Trump; but the tragic truth is that, kompromat or no kompromat, Trump is behaving precisely as he would if he were a Russian asset."

        1. codejunky Silver badge

          Re: TOLotF

          @Fruit and Nutcase

          "As I have mournfully written before, I don’t believe the claims that Putin has kompromat on Trump; but the tragic truth is that, kompromat or no kompromat, Trump is behaving precisely as he would if he were a Russian asset."

          The follow up question to that should be 'how?'. This is the stumbling block that seems to get anti-Trumpers stuck. The Russia hoax is exposed. Obamas crew are under investigation and being referred for prosecution. 10% for the big guy was the last president. The FBI is under investigation for the 'Arctic Frost' investigation in another extreme example of the weaponised state.

          However much sunlight is put on the corruption it is amazing people seem more preoccupied in their fantasies about Trump. Hell they prefer their fantasy complaints to complaining about real things Trump does.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Trollface

            Re: TOLotF

            Bubba would say otherwise. #TSD

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: TOLotF

            codejunky> Obamas crew are under investigation and being referred for prosecution.

            Who are you actually refering to here?

            1. codejunky Silver badge

              Re: TOLotF

              @AC

              This is the announcement back in July of a grand jury to investigate Obama officials.

              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/24/justice-department-obama-2016-election

              https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-doj-open-grand-jury-investigate-obama-officials-source-says-2025-08-04/

              Since then FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James had criminal charges however the judge threw the case which will apparently be appealed (this is where Bidens 'no one is above the law' gets tested).

              Gabbard has since been declassifying and releasing documents directly contradicting the intentional lie about Trump-Russia in 2016. The original assessment being that Russia expected Hillary to win and had compromising material on her while having limited ability to influence elections.

              CIA Director John Brennan lied to the HPSCI and is referred for prosecution-

              https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-refers-john-brennan-doj-criminal-prosecution

              The 2020 house oversight committee report-

              https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-HPSCI-Report-Manufactured-Russia-Hoax-July2025.pdf

              For more information I suggest you see my response to Pussifer on another thread- https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2025/10/28/chatbots_still_parrot_russian_state/#c_5170061

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: TOLotF

                however the judge threw the case which will apparently be appealed

                Due to the illegal activities of Trump's incompetent appointees.

                King President Donald must be fuming. But at least as King President he cannot be prosecuted for all his illegal activity, malevolence and malfeasance. So he won't end up like his friend Epstein.

                1. codejunky Silver badge

                  Re: TOLotF

                  @AC

                  "Due to the illegal activities of Trump's incompetent appointees."

                  What illegal activity? Will he be prosecuted? The previous U.S. Attorney was unwilling to prosecute criminal behaviour which brings back the Biden statement that no one is above the law, yet seem to be if they are of a particular party. The statute of limitations protecting Comey!

                  If you want a reference of how important this statute of limitations thing is. The dems violated that statute to claim Trump a felon for a misdemeanour prosecuted beyond the statute of limitations. Trump was doing it the legal way.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: TOLotF

                    What illegal activity?

                    Halligan was illegally appointed to her position.

                    Halligan illegally used evidence from one case/warrant (and client/attorney privileged information) to try and prosecute another case.

                    This cabal of Trump administration criminals needs to be brought to book.

  2. Robert Halloran

    hmmm...

    Given the USian preoccupation with firearms, and the specious "guns don't kill people" BS, how can they then justify an app that simply reports where 47's thugs might be found? It's not suggesting violence against them, just spotting them on a map...

    1. Mister Goldiloxx

      Re: hmmm...

      You UKers are about to drown in illegal aliens. You'll wish you had a 2nd Amendment!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: hmmm...

        Time to shoot the Colonials on sight, you think?

      2. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

        Re: hmmm...

        Er...twat

  3. Andy the ex-Brit

    He used an app to figure out that ICE agents might be at an ICE center?

    A bit like following beer delivery trucks to find the pubs.

  4. codejunky Silver badge

    Ha

    "The group went on to highlight Bondi's social media post about Meta's takedown, which it claims suggests the government pressured the tech giant to take action."

    As long as the government just threatened the app providers and maybe embedded state operatives to interfere within the group the precedent set by the last administration and the social media companies should make it alright shouldnt it?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

    The Department of Justice should wait until an ICE-tracking app is used in an attack on a removal officer before prosecuting the provider of that app.

    A person who aids and abets, or encourages another to commit a crime but who is not present at the scene. An accessory before the fact, like an accomplice, may be held criminally liable to the same extent as the principal.ref

    1. ITS Retired

      Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

      “A person who aids and abets, or encourages another to commit a crime but who is not present at the scene. An accessory before the fact, like an accomplice, may be held criminally liable to the same extent as the principal.”

      So, Kristi Noem then?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

        And Agent Orange seems to have framed himself for that with his "SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!" nonsense.

        Not to mention January 6th.

    2. tfewster Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/aid_and_abet - 2. The defendant [alleged accomplice] knew that the perpetrator intended to commit the crime;

      Otherwise gun salesmen and manufacturers would be accomplices too.

    3. Mister Goldiloxx

      Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

      So if you knew someone would be murdered you should wait until they are to try and stop it or investigate?! Grow up!

      1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

        Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

        So in your incredibly paranoid world we should arrest people on suspicion of being suspicious. Got it.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Who provided the ICE-tracking app?

        Exactly, otherwise you should go and kill Trump & al.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Obama biting his nails

    Obama is worried that it will come back to bite him when you consider how many he deported.

    No point citing sources as it is common knowledge, and easilly consutable, that Obama achieved the Gold Medal.

    Every thumbs down is an indicator of the ostrich method which has become so prevalent that it is now funny.

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: Obama biting his nails

      Obama achieved those record deportation rates within the law. He didn't have ICE agents breaking down doors at apartment buildings and rounding up every then checking later to see if anyone was illegal. He didn't have them invading cities like an occupying army. He didn't send them to third world hellholes unrelated to where they were actually from.

      Trump isn't doing it this was because it is necessary, he's doing it to deliberately cause as much fear and terror as possible. He's the biggest terrorist in the US now, either him or his Himmler, Steven Miller.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Obama biting his nails

        Hes doing it because American debt is astronomic and he cant afford to pay for them.

        How much of your actual income are you paying for these people. Pleade state an amount ? If your answer is 0 then you have no arguement.

        1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

          Re: Obama biting his nails

          Every person who pays taxes is paying for these people. Try not being a dolt.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Obama biting his nails

          You can't believe that, surely?

          He's just awarded ICE an extra $11.25 billion A YEAR.

          That would be out of your tax dollars if only you paid tax.

    2. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

      Re: Obama biting his nails

      Last para = 'I'm right and you're wrong, so there!'

  7. Mister Goldiloxx

    Oh F off! Where was EFF when Americans were having their rights violated by illegal aliens and hard-alt-far-leftists? Twiddling their thumbs!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The EFF have been compromised by the same ALT-LEFT bullies and hard liners, just like the universities.

      The problem being that their version of Utopia will only ensure that what follows will be destructive for all who follow..

      1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

        I see the trolls are up early today. Oh wait, it's afternoon in Moscow.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          The ALT-LEFT bullies and hard liners don't only come from Moscow.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
            Facepalm

            "The ALT-LEFT bullies"

            Remind me please, what is the ALTernative to LEFT? Oh yeah, that would the RIGHT, yes?

      2. Jamie Jones Silver badge
        FAIL

        When you post something as unhinged as that, it doesn't provoke anger.

        Any sane person will just be puzzled, and/or sympathetic to your obvious mental problems, or simply just laugh at you.

        Of course, you could be trolling, which would be even sadder, especially as the fact someone responded has probably aroused you.

        Still, keeps you off the streets, I guess.

    2. Jamie Jones Silver badge
      FAIL

      hard-alt-far-leftists?

      LOL, You guys can''t even troll effectively.

  8. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck

    ICE "agents" are at risk because everybody knows they're Drumpf's take on the racist brownshirts of Nazi Germany whose job it was to round up the Jews and foreigners for shipping to the internment camps.

    Sound familiar?

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So

    Under Blondi’s ridiculous logic, someone who texts or phones another person about an ICE operation is doing something illegal/violent.

    Hmmm

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