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The Trump administration is so eager to get extra power into the grid that it is offering a $1 billion loan to Constellation Energy to help it restart the infamous Three Mile Island nuclear facility. US Energy Secretary Chris Wright announced the move on Tuesday, claiming that the funding from the Department of Energy's (DOE) …

  1. bombastic bob Silver badge
    Devil

    a good start [pun intended]

    Seeing TMI being brought back "out of mothball storage" is a good start.

    I'd also like to see San Onofre's power plant come back (located about halfway between San Diego and Los Angeles). I had several friends that worked there at the time it was shut down [the recently replaced boiler of a particular flawed design developed premature leaks years before expected end of life]. That plant was summarily shut down because regulators would not allow it to be operated below rated power (to prevent leaks in one plant) while replacing the boiler in the other. As a result Southern Cal Edison shut it down and stores spent fuel there but that's it, and everyone in California has to pay a "nuclear decommissioning" surcharge on their electric bills...

    So yeah, past STUPID policies are FINALLY being addressed OUTSIDE of Cali-F-You, so I'm hoping that common sense will at least increase a little here, and get San Onofre (SONGS) back online.

    1. wub

      Re: a good start [pun intended]

      First, thanks for taking to heart the recent request from the Vultures to maintain some civility and avoid personal attacks. /s

      Second, SONGS and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries proposed to update the plant using "like for like" engineering. Had they done that, SONGS would still be online, and I would not be paying for the cleanup as a customer as part of my current (huh, huh) electric bill...

      Third, yes, engineering advances always provide the possibility of improvement when refitting a plant, but if you make changes TEST THEM PROPERLY! From one (https://www.ans.org/news/article-1286/san-onofre-debate-now-more-public-and-more-technical/) of the many reports on this matter:

      "The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) determined that computer modeling used during the design phase by the manufacturer, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, underpredicted the thermal hydraulic conditions in the steam generators which contributed to the unstable tube vibration. The unstable tube vibration caused the unexpected wear in the steam generators."

      "Reading of the linked MHI documents reveals clearly that the problem is partly theoretical, partly physical. On the one hand, an assumption in force in steam generator design industry-wide has held that "if out of plane FEI is prevented by design, in-plane FEI can not occur." This has been proven wrong-at least in the San Onofre steam generators-although it must be stated clearly that this event at San Onofre is the first confirmed occurrence of in-plane FEI known in the industry."

      "We also see in the report (again, quite clearly) that the design of the Anti-Vibration Bars, which restrain the U-tubes, was slightly modified-and was thought to be improved-in Unit 3. What actually happened was that making the parts to finer (closer) tolerances reduced their contact force-and thus their ability to restrain the U-tubes-and helped lead to the motion-related impact wear."

      In total, MHI made four significant design changes to the original equipment, each intended to contribute to increased output from the plant, Sadly, their computer modelling did not quite capture the actual effect of these changes, and the "like for like" equipment both rubbed and hammered itself to death. After only a few months of operation.

      Yes, testing this properly would have slowed the process down, but as I already said the plant would still be producing instead of becoming a cost center.

      So, sure turn it back on, but for fsck's sake, TEST AND CORRECT the deficiencies beforehand!!!

  2. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Soon 30 Mile Island

    since that will be the dead zone. 57 years old (yeah maintenance upgrades blah blah) and luckily, from here, four times further away than Chornobly...

    And why are the people paying for rebooting this. The AI companies are not really short on money. And 1 Billion, there are a lot cheaper ways to get as much energy as that reactor delivers.

    Does anyone have the temperature data of the river, historical up to now? Not that there will the the France-Effect: Having to shut down atomic partially 'cause the water was too warm to cool enough.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Soon 30 Mile Island

      Need to get that MG Maestro Turbo back on the road. About the same age.

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Soon 30 Mile Island

        Na, that car is more modern, you need something older like the 1st generation VW Golf.

  3. TVU Silver badge

    "The Trump administration is so eager to get extra power into the grid that it is offering a $1 billion loan to Constellation Energy to help it restart the infamous Three Mile Island nuclear facility"

    ^ That nuclear power choice is a much better option than the highly ill-conceived "Drill, baby, drill".

    1. chivo243 Silver badge

      Another marketing win... use a site with a previously bad connotation, say it's great 10 times, and everybody is on board. I'm sure there are better facilities that have been decommissioned since TMI that would cost less to restart. There are some that were never finished due to TMI. https://abandonedonline.net/location/marble-hill-nuclear-power-plant/. I was working at Braidwood NPS during construction, when Chernobyl popped, that was the end of my short Sector 7 career, Braidwood was finished, and does quite well.

  4. IGotOut Silver badge

    Loan Programs Office would lower electricity costs and strengthen grid reliability.

    For the AI data centres.

    Fuck the poor people.

  5. Randesigner

    The finish line

    "... and win the AI race"

    I laugh at how absurd this statement is. Where's the finish line? How do we know when it's over and who won?

    Back in the day, we had the race to the moon. At least there was a clear and finite goal of getting a human to the moon.

    1. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

      Re: At least there was a clear and finite goal

      You found the flaw! Good work.

      1. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

        Re: At least there was a clear and finite goal

        I thought that it was a race to the bottom that we're in, & keep thinking that we've arrived, only to be disappointed a few hours / days later.

        I'm now nudging 60, is this just an age & perspective thing?

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          Re: At least there was a clear and finite goal

          Depends on where you live. Some countries race to the bottomless faster than others. A race we are "behind" here, where I live. But I'd prefer if we wouldn't participate at all in THAT race.

  6. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

    A billion ways to count kindness

    With a mere 88 billion profits in 2024 (21% YoY increase from 2023), and a dangerously low 512 billion in assets (24% YoY increase from 2023), this 1 Billion loan is a lifesaver for MS indeed. Uncle Sam cares.

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  7. David Hicklin Silver badge

    800,000 homes

    Or a DC or 2

  8. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
    FAIL

    Basic failure of procedures!

    I don't know how they can make such a basic mistake! There is an established safety procedure here from the British nuclear industry.

    You have a reactor accident. You still want to use the site for other nuclear stuff. You change the name. The cold and scary Windscale becomes the rather nicer sounding Sellafield.

    So perhaps Three Mile Island can become Susquehanna Park. Even better, because you can't search for it, if you can't spell it... Although Five Kilometre Key sounds quite nice too.

  9. UltraSane

    Shutting down safe working nuclear reactors is incredibly stupid.

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