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Microsoft has added a new Windows mode that blanks out the Blue Screen of Death on public displays after 15 seconds. Redmond designed this new “Digital Signage mode” for non-interactive displays used in public. When admins enable this mode, Windows will display the BSOD for just 15 seconds. An administrator will then need to …

  1. AnonymousCward

    Did they get lazy?

    System Restore used to have exclusion paths to keep Documents and a lot of other key user profile data intact. This new method of implementing System Protection seems less functional than the old one. The cynic in me thinks this is to help push more OneDrive…

    1. AMBxx Silver badge

      Re: Did they get lazy?

      I'm more concerned that files that have been saved to OneDrive may be overwritten by files on a newly restored PC. "I'll just open this file to check" - most of Office automatically saves as it goes along.

    2. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Did they get lazy?

      No, they got even dumber forgetting their own features until accidentally rediscovered. What will be next? xcopy.exe ?

  2. cyberdemon Silver badge
    FAIL

    Desperation

    So they are covering up their borkage by turning off the display after a BSOD ....

    Who would use Windows for digital signage anyway???

    Never mind BSODs, i've seen plenty of digital signboards borked by a Windows Update nagscreen. Will they blank that out too?

    1. BFeely

      Re: Desperation

      At the same time if it's hardware breaking down it might get stuck at the BSOD anyway. At that point you just have to hope that a watchdog timer detects the hardware is stuck and initiates a cold reboot.

    2. sabroni Silver badge

      Re: a Windows Update nagscreen. Will they blank that out too?

      "Microsoft’s announcement says that Digital Signage mode “helps ensure no Windows screens or error dialogs will show.” PCs that produce pop-up dialog boxes reporting errors on public displays will therefore also go dark after 15 seconds."

      Third paragraph of the article. Couldn't be arsed to read that far before spreading your pearls of wisdom?

      Fail indeed.

      1. tin 2

        Re: a Windows Update nagscreen. Will they blank that out too?

        There's a digital sign at my local gym that shows the start bar from time to time, right across the middle of the screen for some reason.

        I bet it won't detect that's an issue and the screen will keep bleating that windows is underneath... as windows has always done.

    3. DS999 Silver badge

      They're tired of the memes

      Just saw one today where a live music show had a BSOD on the giant screen behind it. The BSOD is so iconic everyone sees that and knows "Microsoft fucked up". So they want to switch to another screen that doesn't read "Windows" to people seeing it so they won't associate the failures with Microsoft.

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: They're tired of the memes

        simple - instead of BSOD run a random output from the Linux screensaver of the same name and rotate them, and everyone will say "oh it's just a screensaver"

    4. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Desperation

      Oh, the OS choice for digital signage actually does not matter, I've seen enough linuxes and DOS crash as well for hardware reasons. I remember several "himem.sys detected a memory error" or "General Failure on Drive" on large displays, some with only one line, from long ago. The reason why we see Windows more often is simply 'cause it is more used for those "must only run a Powerpoint Presentation 24/7" important messaging displays. Of course on hardware with the lowest spec and price needed for such a job.

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Linux

        Re: Desperation

        can't powerpoint convert it's output to a video? Just curious... If so, make it an mp4 video (or whatever) then have el cheapo RPi-based signage play the video full screen on bootup and be done with it

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          Re: Desperation

          Of course it can. But we talk about corporations, not about logic.

    5. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Desperation

      "Who would use Windows for digital signage anyway???"

      From what I've seen, too many. BSOD's, Nag screens, unpatched computers with wireless connections...........

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft has officially crossed the line. I have a whole folder of public BSoDs, I'll be heartbroken if it can't grow anymore.

    1. BFeely

      I'm sure out of laziness there will still be plenty of installers that fail to configure their systems properly for digital signage.

      1. Zarno

        Or, after a forced Windows 14 IOT Core LTSC update, the setting gets un-checked...

    2. abend0c4 Silver badge

      I recently snapped a huge display outside the Metrocentre in Gateshead displaying a UEFI error, so there will still be opportunities, if of a slightly different genre. Not even Microsoft can defeat the eternal conspiracy between humanity and entropy.

    3. wolfetone Silver badge

      Definitely.

      The one highlight I have on shopping trips is seeing in what glorious ways the Micro$oft signage has shat itself.

      It's the 21st century version of a busman's holiday, and they're taking it away from us!

  4. Bill Gray Silver badge
    Holmes

    it also likely means the end of The Register’s Bork column, in which we celebrate the many, many BSODs that readers have spotted in the wild over the years.

    At the risk of pointing out the obvious (see icon), it seems to me that many of those articles involved relatively ancient versions of Microsoft's "OS". I think it'll take a while for the new, sanitized version to have a significant share.

  5. TheMaskedMan

    So, rather than fix the OS, they pretend it never broke in the first place, at least in public? Yep, that's the Microsoft we know and love.

    Hmm, but restore back to a "point when it was working well" seems a little optimistic. This is Windows, after all ...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Maybe you'll get CP/M.

  6. Eric 9001
    Black Helicopters

    Well there it is

    So people no longer see signs of windows failing everywhere, the BSOD screen has been changed from blue to black and soon digital signage won't even show an error after 15 seconds - it'll just show a black screen and look like its off (60 seconds would probably be more reasonable - considering that the black error screen could seem completely black until you look closer and see the small white text, but of course 15 seconds was selected to minimize as much as possible of anyone but the sign maintainer seeing it).

    Meanwhile, systemd/Linux will display a blue error screen on any services error deemed critical (even though the OS still works fine and you hit a key and then investigate the error).

    Well played microsoft - in a few months or years, most windows installs for signage will never visibly bluescreen, but most LiGNUx installs for signage will have a chance of bluescreening.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Well there it is

      As an aside, the Linux BSOD QR code needs an 8K camera to make sense of it. I have tried to scan one, but the scanner couldn't pick it up.

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Well there it is

        Nice link! Now imagine that code on a 640x480 display, which you try to take the 48 MPixel picture from....

      2. Eric 9001
        Black Helicopters

        Re: Well there it is

        I didn't mean the Linux DRM QR code kernel panic encoder that doesn't use a blue screen.

        I meant systemd-bsod from the systemd OS; https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-bsod.service.html

        Yes, the one developed on microsoft github with the guidance of a microsoft employee; https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/28077

      3. druck Silver badge

        Re: Well there it is

        All those QR codes worked for me using a 5 year old Samsung phone 12ft away from a 43" bedroom TV, so the requirements aren't that rigorous.

    2. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Linux

      Re: Well there it is

      simply not using systemd might fix that

  7. SecretSonOfHG

    Oh the joys of unwanted side effects of snapshots

    Picture malware altering snapshots and then triggering a problem that the user or a clueless/lazy windows support person cannot fix so that it restores a snapshot.

    Which of course will be “fixed” by malware scanning of snapshots, which will grind the machine down to its knees which will make people mad about their computer being slow. Which will trigger another hardware update cycle.

    Classic Windows.

    What a wonderful world we live in.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Move along citizen, nothing to see here

    All your black screen are belong to us.

  9. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Linux

    Fluid dictation ... plays editor, correcting your grammar, polishing your style, removing any “ums”

    Nay, nay, and thrice nay!

    While definitely a useful feature for those who can't use a keyboard, the net effect of this will be to convert everybody's prose to the same deathly boring corporate vacuity that we already see from LLMs. (I ignore the fact that it will of course make shared office space a quiet, peaceful place... oh, wait, everybody shouting at once?)

    Please don't be tempted to push this idiocy to Linux!

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Typical Microsoft...

    Don't bother to fix the actual errors; just cover them up.

    Windows is a joke, and that joke isn't funny any more.

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: Typical Microsoft...

      Well, yes... but I can't remember when the joke was funny

    2. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
      Megaphone

      Re: Typical Microsoft...

      Trumpet your successes and bury your failures.

      A blank screen doesn't scream "MIcrosoft's broken again!"

  11. Mage Silver badge
    Alert

    a boon for accessibility.

    Only if done by humans.

    MS is breaking Word!

    There needs to be a single switch to disable all the nagging suggestions. See what Emma Thomson thinks!

    See her rant! https://cdn.masto.host/mastodonie/cache/media_attachments/files/115/572/829/240/389/528/original/102d9443ad288e9a.mp4

  12. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Coat

    Is MS backporting this to XP ?

    A lot of this type of borkage or at least the publically obvious examples seems to be running XP in these parts.

    Rather splendid when it is on an enormous roadside sign. The XP paddock background with some embarrassing system error dialog.

    Was years before Iearnt what BSOD meant apparently not Bill nor Balmer Sucks Own **ck.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Is MS backporting this to XP ?

      Don't need to, was introduced with XP and Server 2003. They just "hey, wait, was that always in there?"

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yet another attempt to polish a turd. Also, not available in kiosk mode. lol

  14. Fred Daggy Silver badge
    Devil

    Must have been bad publicity.

    Must have been bad publicity having so many borked display screens around. No wonder MS changed the behaviour.

    Now, the BOFH in me says instead of blanking it out, why not display our own ads instead? Keep the ads out of politics and keep it G-rated and no one will probably notice. And pocket the winnings.

    However, certainly a number of screens on the local bus company are constantly rebooting into Linux, so the problem in this case isn't windows-specific. For this I blame System-D as it just seems to not cope with the hardware detection cycle. More specifically, can't cope with not getting the network defined. I'd give more details but I normally need to get off the bus at this point.

  15. Ashentaine

    Considering how a lot of the digital signs and such that I've seen in shopping areas are still just running a slideshow over a normal Windows install, usually exposed when the window with said slideshow isn't centered correctly and you can see the desktop peeking out on one side, I don't think this'll change much.

  16. ComicalEngineer Silver badge

    Can we have this with added AI?

    What an opportunity this is for AI to do something useful.

    Something like enhanced Clippy: "Hi, it looks like you're borked Windows..."

  17. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Wait, Shadowcopy is getting used again?

    I even had to create my own scripts after Microsoft DELIBERATELY crippled it somewhere around Windows 7 SP1 or SP2 - they did not touch it for servers, but they removed some command line options from vssadmin and forced a config which clears up shadowcopies after 7 days, no matter what you configure. Most importantly they removed the UI to configure it, the right-click-volume-configure-shadowcopy option which is still there on servers.

    And NOW, I read "4-hour frequency", which is coincidentally my default setting from the scripts... Although a difference: Ever four hours yes, when older than two days only keep one per day, when older than 8 days keep only even days (of the month), when older 16 days keep only every fourth day (of the month). Limit is what you configured, unless above mentioned "Windows Professional and Home limit" catches you. (Another reason to use the server version of Windows...)

    Oh, and I forgot to mention: This is one of the good working features of Windows, since Windows XP/Server 2003. And what does Micros~1 do? Everything else which less important unless you are 110% Marketing Public Relation Customer Experience Propaganda Department controlled.

  18. Mostly Irrelevant

    This won't change a thing, all those systems use years old versions of Windows and will continue to. Not only that, the people who create them are unlikely to turn this feature on anyway, based on their general attention to detail.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Digital diversity is now a thing /s

    Something missing with the picture at this link /s

  20. tin 2

    There is but only one computer error acceptable for public display.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x9Vado0S7M

    (but also, is the reason I imagine in later releases they made it reboot and start again anyway, which is a whole lot more acceptable than anything stuck at some kind of error prompt).

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