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A survey of CIOs and tech leaders in Western Europe has found 61 percent want to increase their use of local cloud providers amid global geopolitical uncertainty. Around half (53 percent) said geopolitics would restrict their use of global providers in the future. Office 365, photo by dennizn via Shutterstock International …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ignorance? Misdirection?

    Quote: "....61 percent want to increase their use of local cloud providers...."

    Yup....."local cloud providers" are still connected to the internet..........

    How do "local cloud providers" prevent bad actors from hacking?

    Is this ignorance...............or more misdirection??

    I think we should be told!

    1. Oli.

      Re: Ignorance? Misdirection?

      The issue at hand is data processing and service availability. With the US rushing towards third world country status, you don't want your sensitive data stored or processed in data centers that are provided by US companies. Similarly, with the US randomly turning on their former allies, you don't want to enable them to hold your company hostage by being able to shut off the services you use at a moment's notice.

  2. alain williams Silver badge

    How is the local cloud reached ?

    They also need to consider the interconnects, ie the cabling, routing, etc. I WW-II Gordon Welchman pioneered Traffic analysis and deduced much from pattern analysis in communications.

    We also need local equivalents to Let's Encrypt - this is based in San Francisco, we would be foolish if we thought that the USA spooks had not compromised it, if not it is subject to USA laws.

    Fix these for starters.

  3. may_i Silver badge

    More misdirection

    This sentence: "No European customers, whether private or public, had yet been the subject of any such requests, Microsoft said."

    should actually read: "No European customers, whether private or public, had yet been the subject of any such requests that we are allowed to talk about, Microsoft said."

    National Security Letters are a thing.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: More misdirection

      Agreed. The follow-up question should have been "Would you have been allowed to admit it if they were?".

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: More misdirection

      Wasn't there a case of the US Govt/ demanding data held in MS Ireland? Didn't that drag on and on for quite some time as data sovereignty was argued over? Although IIRC, the data subject was a US citizen, just the data was in Ireland.

      Ah, yeah, here we go :-) Never properly resolved, leaving some big legal questions we still have no answers for.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: More misdirection

        And someone concerned with that - the name "Brad" something sticks in my mind - welcomed the CLOUD Act after that saying it would give them certainty.

      2. may_i Silver badge

        Re: More misdirection

        It was this case which led to the creation and rapid jamming through the legislature of the Cloud Act. This neatly headed the case off at the pass and allowed the supreme court to refuse to hear it.

        A classic example of political manoeuvring to achieve a planned outcome.

        To claim that the need for a warrant provides safety against the US government stealing your data is moot, given that National Security Letters exist. The most significant problem with all of this is the assertion by the USA that they have a right to data regardless of where it is stored purely because anyone involved in storing or processing that data has a US office.

        Even that is largely irrelevant in the end. We know, thanks to Ed Snowden, that the USA and other like minded governments already engage in pervasive and detailed surveillance of everyone through the technology they use. If one of the governments in the club has constitutional restrictions which prevent them from spying on their own citizens, another club member can do that for them in return for them spying on someone else. Just like the Swedish government does with spying on all Internet traffic which flows eastwards from Sweden where the US does not already have total access.

        The USA no longer even bothers to hide the fact that they hoover up the data of US citizens under the pretext of "incidental" data collected while spying on foreigners. That data is regularly used by multiple US agencies against US citizens. Other club members simply refuse to reveal where and how they obtained information against people, using the ever effective "national security" argument.

        The fact that the data from the "secret" spying then gets combined with all the data acquired from businesses that spy on and profile people makes the whole incredibly rich, detailed and current. We live in a panopticon. Those who claim otherwise are either deluded, lying or have been living under a rock for their whole life.

  4. Alan Mackenzie
    FAIL

    That picture isn't a game of chess.

    Black appears not to have a king, unless it's on a8, which wouldn't indicate a high standard of play.

    The white king's bishop is on b1 behind a wall of pawns. It couldn't possibly have got there. Maybe this "game" was started with knights and bishops the wrong way round on the board.

    White, although undeveloped, appears to be chasing pawns with his queen on the kingside. Again, this doesn't indicate a high standard of play.

    At least the board has been placed correctly with regard to white and black squares.

    Come on, Register, you can do better than this.

  5. 3arn0wl

    Definition of Madness

    - doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome

    How many pieces does El Reg need to publish about hackers and ransomes before organisations realise that storing data on someone else's cloud - US or otherwise - is a dumb idea?

    1. Alumoi Silver badge

      Re: Definition of Madness

      As long as the beancounters are happy the cloud is here to stay.

  6. naive

    The International Criminal Court also goes local

    After they dared to annoy Uncle Sam by putting mr. Nethanyahu on the naughty list for allowing the IDF to spread its explosive love a bit too generous in Gaza.

    Microsoft was all too happy to cut them off from all things Azure and even locally running software.

    Local microsofties, cloudy AWS, Azure and Google lemmings better pray their government continues to play nice with its master in Washington, otherwise the "computer says no" day might come unexpected when "sanctions" hit.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sovereignty.......no.....I don't understand...........

    Which part of "All your base belong to us"................don't you understand?

    Air gapped.......................NO!!

    Encrypted........................NO!!

    Backed up.......................What does that mean?

    Look it up!!!

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