Think tank decries science friction between countries, demands global cooperation

Why can't we all just get along... for the good of science? New research suggests countries prioritizing national security over the greater good are hindering global research and economic development. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's (OECD) Science, Technology and Innovation Outlook 2025 report …

[Headley_Grange]

If it wants to demand anything then the best way would be to secretly develop some world-leading science, engineer it into state-of-the-art weaponry then threaten the rest of the world with obliteration if they don't cooperate better.

[beast666]

The Oreshnik and Burevestnik are state-of-the-art weapons.

Maybe if Vladimir the Great was to start threatening folk then the world would be a better place?

Disbanding NATO would give better results however.

[Lon24]

Burevestnik must be "state of the art" if it solved the problems which caused the US to abandon a similar project Pluto in the 1960s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto

How?

[JLV]

Tovarich, I hate to break this to you, but ... Russia ain't a member of the OECD.

And state of the Soviet, sorry, Russian nuclear weapons have a long history of screwing up. Including on Russian territory. Not least your precious Bubu...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyonoksa_radiation_accident

Good try tho.

LOL. Russia can't even "dismantle" Ukraine after 3 years trying. Wonder how well it would fare against NATO...?

[Anonymous Coward]

@JLV - yours is a nice try too.

Dismantling Ukraine in a few weeks is what the West says Russia wanted. And it is what we all wish to be true, isn't it ?

As for the quality of their nuclear weapons, well, a nuke is a nuke and that's all that matters. When it hits you, quality is not the concern here.

[JLV]

Re: @JLV - yours is a nice try too.

A nuke is a nuke... when it works. Sadly, Bubu has failed most of its tests to date. But, yes, overall nukes, at least the regular, non-vaporware kind, are what buys Russia's place in the world. Nothing else.

> Dismantling Ukraine in a few weeks is what the West says Russia wanted.

Sure. Their invasion, and subsequent failure to get it done, really contradicts my statement and supports yours ;-)

Reality is, some people had their doubts about the mighty Russian military, but if you had told anyone in 2022 how this would play out to 2025, people would have laughed at you.

That's not to say they can't win in the future - like with Finland in 1940, the odds are stacked against Ukraine, as long as Russia's totalitarian leadership can just throw more of its people to die for its Dear Leader's pretexts. But neither Russia, nor Putin, are looking all that clever at the moment, Putin apologists notwithstanding.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: @JLV - yours is a nice try too.

If you define the scope and the reason of Russian military, of course they failed miserably.

So far, Russia is way better than US leaving Afghanistan completely after 20 years of fight against a way more primitive army than the one of Ukraine heavily funded by hundreds of billions USD, a lot of it in cash. Were the US defeated then ?

[JLV]

Re: @JLV - yours is a nice try too.

LOL. Another Putin apology by someone who doesn't have a clue about military history.

You are comparing apples to bacon. Guerrilla wars - like the US in Afghanistan - are notoriously hard to win. The "gold metric", of sorts, being Malaysia in the 50s.

Remind us again, who also got their asses whacked in Afghanistan? Hint, the name starts with either Ru or So.

The Ukraine war ain't no such thing as a guerrilla war, though if Putin had any clue in military affairs, he'd be dealing with that stage after invading his much smaller neighbor with the "world's 2nd strongest army" (TM). But he ain't. He's dealing with a quagmire in conventional warfare against a laughingly less powerful enemy.

And before you go on about "funded by hundreds of billions USD, a lot of it in cash", many governments have tried to prop up their allies with $$$, without much success. Come to think of it, Afghanistan is a useful metric, again. If people aren't motivated, money won't buy a victory.

Nukes aside, Russia has been burning the candle on both ends wrt conventional warfare. About their only service which hasn't embarrassed itself is their air force. Mainly because it's been chickening it out, asides from bravely launching bombs and missiles from deep within Russian rear echelons. Their tank park has not been "decimated", mostly because that is the wrong word to use past 10% losses. The Black Sea fleet? LOL. Russian infantry? Honing cannon fodder tactics for the last 3 years. Drones is about the only thing they seem competitive on.

[VoiceOfTruth]

I think a little rewording is necesary

>> However, evidence points to a growing rift between the US and China that looks set to split the globe into two parallel ecosystems.

The US is trying to split the world. It wants to be top dog, and it doesn't care if it beggars the rest of the world to do it. It has already tried luring top European talent. It is already imposing conditions on other countries for using technology if so much as an American nut and bolt makes up part of it. As you refer to here:

>> The Trump administration has no qualms in leaning on other nations and using sanctions including tariffs, even against allies, if they don't toe the President's line

sed s/administration/regime/

[graemep]

Re: I think a little rewording is necesary

> The US is trying to split the world. It wants to be top dog, and it doesn't care if it beggars the rest of the world to do it.

Whereas China just wants to control the world and makes its tyrannically government the norm, which is totally different and absolutely fine.

[Anonymous Coward]

@graemep Re: I think a little rewording is necesary

How many foreign governments have been toppled by China in the name of their ideology ? How many vassal states does China have ? Heck, even North-Korea the most tyrannic dictatorship is not of interest to them.

Now on the other hand, US is preparing a new addition to its collection of puppet regimes, one fishing boat at a time.

[NetMage]

I didn’t see any demands in the article - did I miss it or did I just miss how click-bait The Register titles are?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, the report examines "how scientific co‑operation is being reshaped by geopolitics, and how science systems themselves must adapt to new demands". It doesn't literally make demands per se but is nicely summarized by TFA's headline imho, in the sense that addressing the problem of "science friction between countries" ... "demands global cooperation" according to the "Think tank".

I like it ... ;)

[Anonymous Coward]

The first 3 paragraphs give a pretty good idea of how they would like things to improve.

- "Why can't we all just get along... for the good of science?"

- "warns that policies designed to protect sensitive research and prevent foreign interference are limiting humanity's ability to address shared challenges – from climate goals to health innovation."

- "The challenge is to strike the right balance between security, openness, and innovation,"

> did I miss it or did I just miss how click-bait The Register titles are?

You did and you also showcased how cranky some readers of a free online publication can be. But maybe we need to hear what your alternative title would have been, oh wise one?

[Neil Barnes]

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