back to article Elon Musk's Grokipedia launches, filled to the brim with plagiarism and AI slop

What do you do if you're the richest man on Earth and don't like Wikipedia? Start your own imitation encyclopedia, call it Grokipedia, lift a bunch of pages from the site, and let AI fill in the rest. Obviously, that's a recipe for success. Musk announced the launch of Grokipedia "version 0.1" on X Monday evening, qualifying …

  1. beast666 Silver badge

    Grokipedia >> Wikipedia.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      If you right shift Grokipedia by Wikipedia as you did in your post because you don't quite know your mathematical symbols you'll get 0 because Grokipedia is a very small number, almost but not quite as small as Musk's... time spent studying before dropping out of university (2), and Wikipedia is a far bigger number.

    2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      If you like Nazi bias, then yes, comrade.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Define what a Nazi is please (other than someone you do not like by using a coherent and simple description & not names of people) as it has lost all meaning as far as I am concerned !

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          A couple of Nazi salutes in front of a worldwide audience is quite a good hint as to whether a person is a Nazi or not.

          1. SnailFerrous

            Nazis salutes and a liking for rockets.

            1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

              Also encouraging genocide.

        2. Rich 11

          "it has lost all meaning as far as I am concerned !"

          That says far more about you than it does about anyone else.

          1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

            "Nazis today are not like they used to be" - probably

            1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              >"Nazis today are not like they used to be" - probably

              This time we record the victims on the blockchain instead of having to tattoo them ?

              1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

                IBM could still help with that https://www.ibm.com/solutions/blockchain-supply-chain

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Isn't that also because most of them old ones are dead or near death now?

              :)

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          "Define your terms in a way I accept" is an interesting debate style. Have you tried starting a newsletter instead?

          1. Irongut Silver badge

            You could host said newsletter on Substack, like other Nazis.

        4. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Define what a Nazi is please

          Could start with someone who espouses some or all of the agenda of the historical National Socialist German Workers Party or fascism more generally.

          Given the current state of the US and elsewhere it has probably reached the point where it is easier to declare who is not a "NAZI."

          Interestingly Wiki has this nugget:

          "The term "nazi" had been in use before the rise of the NSDAP as a colloquial and derogatory word for a backwards farmer or peasant. It characterised an awkward, clumsy person, a yokel." (Ultimately derived from the common Bavarian name Igna(t)z. )

        5. Casca Silver badge

          And the nazi defenders keep on posting as AC...

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        If you like Nazi bias, then yes, comrade.

        Kampfgefährte surely ?

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      > "Grokipedia >> Wikipedia."

      That Beast666 is a well-established (and tolerated) troll account here isn't really in doubt.

      However, in cases like this- and the vast bulk of what Beast666 posts- it's also obvious that the actual trolling is as much- if not more- in how easily they can provoke a response with even the most intentionally transparent, low rent and low effort attempts such as this one.

      1. Whitter
        Trollface

        Don't feed the trolls

        "Don't feed the trolls" is advice often disregarded.

        Though one imagines a few of the responses are trolls too.

        1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

          Re: Don't feed the trolls

          That is because some of us fundamentally disagree with you. Trolls _want_ free reign, and saying "don't feed them" gives me the impression you are OK with that.

          Baiting trolls, calling out a1 bullshit - it is all good to me, FWIW

          1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

            Re: Don't feed the trolls

            "free rein" dammit! ;)

    4. Casca Silver badge

      You really should try harder with your bullshit.

      1. Anonymous Coward
  2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Muckipedia

    Or Muskipedia

    1. steelpillow Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      Grotipedia

      1. The Travelling Dangleberries

        Re: Muckipedia

        Gorkipedia Tovarish! Gorkipedia!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Muckipedia

          My agèd eyes first groked (sic) it as gropekidia. Which is altogether another wicked road which rather brings us back to his little submarine...

    2. LBJsPNS Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      *sniffs* What's that smell?

      1. blu3b3rry

        Re: Muckipedia

        I don't know what ketamine smells like but can assume it has a fair bit of a pong.

    3. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      Well it's been touched by his dirty little hands so yeah, that seems apt

    4. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      Surely, given past evidence, should simply be “X”.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Muckipedia

        Xittipedia...

    5. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      Nazipedia

    6. Irongut Silver badge

      Re: Muckipedia

      Pedopedia

    7. James 139

      Re: Muckipedia

      Just classify it as Musktrash.

  3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Expedia

    Wonder if he approached Expedia to buy the name and domains

  4. steelpillow Silver badge
    Devil

    ROTFL

    Not the first to get the hump over Wikipedia's editorial practices and fire up an aspirational "better than" to show how it should be done, won't be the last. The few that don't soon fade away just barely sputter on in the background.

    It's all down to the open and democratic consensus-building which lies at the heart of the Wikipedia ethos - and hence the way the MediaWiki software works.

    It's surprising how many people cannot bear the idea of losing editorial control, passionately believe that Wikipedia "ought" to say what they want it to say, and regard us Wikipedians as the attached icon. I tell them to go away and build their own, which makes them hate me even more.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: ROTFL

      I imagine Grokipedia could be even more successful than Conservapedia. Conservapedia has 58,000 articles and 24 active users as noted by Wikipedia.

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: ROTFL

        I can only guess the downvotes are from those who don't recognise sarcastic mockery via the faint "praise" of suggesting they might do better than Conservapedia...!

        Either that or they're from those that do. ;-)

        1. Casca Silver badge

          Re: ROTFL

          I would say its from the usual three maga/right wing defender types on here but they seem to have lost one.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            The usual suspects

            Ever noticed that with certain types of post, it's not just that you'll consistently get two or three downvotes regardless of the (typically much larger) number of upvotes?

            It's that those downvotes all tend to occur very soon after you've posted, often outnumbering the number of upvotes early on before those- with their slower but more consistent pattern- tend to overtake them.

            It's also noticeable that if you contribute to an older discussion, which it's apparent many "regular" users have moved on from, you still tend to get that same number of downvotes regardless of the reduced amount of upvotes in general.

            Hmm.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: ROTFL

        >Conservapedia has 58,000 articles and 24 active users

        If those people could read, they would be hurt by that

      3. Claude Yeller

        Re: Conservapedia offline

        Conservapedia.com is reportedly offline at the moment.

        But 24 active users and 58,000 articles seems unbalanced.

        I am afraid the target audience is not interested in factual information, however messaged or sculpted to fit prejudices.

        1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

          Re: Conservapedia offline

          The target audience isn't interested in information, factual or otherwise.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: ROTFL

      @steelpillow

      And Larry Sangar's criticisms. What say you of them? They seem reasonable & well founded. So much so I stopped donating.

      1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

        Re: ROTFL

        I would think we all know at this point that reality has a left wing bias. Sorry if that offends your worldview.

      2. steelpillow Silver badge

        Re: ROTFL

        @AC

        >And Larry Sangar's criticisms. What say you of them?

        Never heard of him. If you want me to care, you'll have to post his criticisms here in a nice Steelpillow-friendly format, I do have a life.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: ROTFL

      Probably who the Wikimedia Foundation CTO was complaining about last night on BBC World Service Tech Now - with mass location obfuscated bot crawling raping and pillaging Wikipedia.

      1. Claude Yeller

        Re: raping and pillaging

        That would describe Muskiday well, inside and out.

  5. Andy 73 Silver badge

    Special kind of snowflake...

    You have to be a special kind of snowflake to respond to an encyclopaedia that occasionally hurts your feelings by putting up an encyclopaedia that systematically plagiarises the hurty feelings version, but edits out the bits that make you feel bad.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Special kind of snowflake...

      And a "free speech absolutist" until someone says something he disagrees with and he kicks them off Xitter.

      What a fucking bellend.

    2. Bump in the night
      Big Brother

      Re: Special kind of snowflake...

      Notice the dropping of the "H" in "imo".

      1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

        Re: Special kind of snowflake...

        The "H" is always sarcastic anyway - if we were _really_ humble we would keep it to ourselves!

  6. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Moscow

    Elon "It's wasn't a Nazi salute" Moscow should have called it Völkischer Beobachter or Pravda.

    I like how it links to kremlin.ru under some articles, as a source of truth.

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: Moscow

      Had occasion to look up the pinout for a CF card this afternoon. The first hit was from a .ru site; its representation is the mirror image of every other pinout that I found...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Moscow

        "Had occasion to look up the pinout for a CF card this afternoon. The first hit was from a .ru site; its representation is the mirror image of every other pinout that I found..."

        It would be, wouldn't it ? They have to look at it from the other side. :)

        Seriously though it is surprising how much really old SunOS/Solaris stuff is/was only found on old .su or .ru sites. A few years ago I wanted the source or image of the boot floppy for Solaris 2.6 x86 - found both on some obscure .ru institution's neglected website — curiously the boot image was built with masm and msc (ie under msdos.)

      2. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

        Re: Moscow

        That particular site, I'm guessing pinouts dot ru has been around for a seriously long time and is generally pretty good.

        Are you sure it wasn't the pinouts from the connector side?

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

          Re: Moscow

          It was unclear: a numbered diagram and a photograph that didn't match: it implied but didn't state that the pinout was illustrating the photograph.

  7. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

    Is there nothing he won't enshittify?

    Just more proof that money can't make you a decent human.

    1. Scotech

      Re: Is there nothing he won't enshittify?

      Unfortunately, it tends towards the opposite, usually in proportion to the money.

  8. ADJB

    Interesting.... The BBC has the same story running on it's main news page which says more or less the opposite of this one. To be honest it reads more like a press release from Musk. I'm sure they will have checked the sources and passed it by it's fact checking team before publishing......

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Looks like it has been pulled as can find no reference on BBC site for “ Grokipedia”.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Yeah, there's one on BBC Science Focus that pretty much agrees with this one though (from a different angle).

        Bottom line to me is: who needs MechaHitlerPedia? (what audience could it possibly be intended for?)

        1. Not Yb Silver badge

          What audience? The right-winger echo chamber audience, of course. Something like 34% of registered US voters seem to vote for Trump regardless of what he does.

          Not so much here, though.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Well, you can sort of see Musks point if you put yourself in his very far right shoes. By definition, *everything" is left of his position and the centrist middle ground is "far left" from way over there -------------------->>>>>>>>>>>> </sarc> (Tag just to make it clear for the hard of thinking :-))

            1. mcswell

              "very far right shoes"

              Reminds me of the country song "Ten Rounds with Jose Cuervo", where the singer says he can't dance, and shows the lady his two left feet. Guess I'd rather have that problem, than Musk's problem.

    2. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      They probably fact checked it on grokipedia

  9. Claude Yeller

    How the rich get rich

    "Unfortunately for Musk, it's hard to be better than Wikipedia when many of its 885,279 articles (around 12 percent of the English language Wikipedia's 7.08 million) are derived directly from Wikipedia pages. "

    That's how you get rich: Let others do the work and reap the benefits to keep for yourself.

  10. 45RPM Silver badge

    I hope that democracy in America isn’t so irredeemably broken that MAGA remains in power forever more. I fear it might be. But, if democracy does still mean something in the US…

    I hope that the Democrats grow a spine, rebalance the Supreme Court to represent the people, and then charge the perpetrators of the crimes being committed against American people by the likes of Trump, Musk, Zuckerberg, the televangelists and the Christian ‘right’ and their enablers. Then sentence them promptly, no hanging around, and confiscate their wealth - using it to repair the damage to the US.

    If these arseholes are as rich as they claim to be then a lot of people could be fed, a lot of medical bills could be paid, a lot of schools could be built, with the confiscated loot.

    1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      If they have one shit about the people, there wouldn't beedical bills, there'd be a social healthcare system, they've got the money to do it and then some

      1. 45RPM Silver badge

        A thousand times yes. But I can only give you one thumb up.

    2. lglethal Silver badge

      Sorry, but as much as I wish it would happen, it's not going to, and it comes down to, first and foremost, the American people.

      Ask pretty much any American of any creed, denomination, or political affiliation, if they would willing pay higher taxes in order to have a functioning health care system and you will end up deaf from the screech of "NOOOO!!!!!", a screech so loud it would be audible from Orbit. It is a fundamental principle from all Americans that Taxes are too high, despite paying by far the lowest tax rate in the Western Hemisphere. Ask them if the Tax dodging and evasion of the rich is acceptable, and most will express admiration and a sly wish that they could afford the same accountants to reduce their taxes. The mentality is what is broken...

      There are so many other broken systems in the US, but because of the belief in American Exceptionalism, any thought of ditching them and replacing them with a working system inspired by another nation is anathema to the national consciousness.

      Unfortunately, until the mentality of the American People changes, I dont see anything but more of the same regardless of which stripe of Political America is in power...

      1. Jamesit

        "Ask pretty much any American of any creed, denomination, or political affiliation, if they would willing pay higher taxes in order to have a functioning health care system and you will end up deaf from the screech of "NOOOO!!!!!","

        No higher taxes are needed, the USA spends more per capita on healthcare than Canada and delivers less due to the for profit health care industry. Ending the for profit model would do a lot to lower costs and save lives.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What can anyone say about Musk that hasn't been said ?

    The creature is abomination.

    Unfortunately in with an equally abominable crowd within a marginally less abominable nation.

    The whole boiling could do the planet a big favour by permanently shoving their collective head up their collective arse and taking a deep breath.†

    † at least then the shit would flowing the other way for a change.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    “left-wing bias”

    To the MAGA crowd, this is construed as anything factual.

    They much prefer their facts to be “alternative”

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: “left-wing bias”

      and anything with even a shred of humanity or decency is "woke" or "wokety woke nonsense"

      The uk version tends to be of the bigoted and bullying female persuasion, where they screech constantly about outdated and overly simplified 50 year old primary or secondary school textbooks and who each frequently resort to several hundred/thousand sockpuppet accounts to bully / attempt to silence any critical voice and particularly any criticism from female academics who dare to disagree with the bigots and said academics who at a postgraduate / doctoral level study cellular and chromosomal biology or research social structures etc over quite extensive periods of history.

      Where the bigots drape themselves in white, green and purple and act no different to Pankhurst's mob of semi literate zealots, thugs, loudmouths and bullies, where if the targets of their abuse were any other protected group or if they were anything other than well financed white women, then the police would have no qualms about putting them in cuffs, nor would they get away with claiming bigotry is "protected philosophical belief" and the courts rightfully would have thrown the book at them and tossed the key away

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: “left-wing bias”

        Ahhh, I think I understand you now, you hit on a pre-op trans sexual person in a bar, got more than you expected, enjoyed it but feel ashamed of yourself because you were brought up to be "a man"

  13. sammystag

    Doesn't work with Firefox + NoScript so that put a quick end to my curiosity. Think that tells me enough about the thinking behind it

    1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

      Not surprised. My curiosity didn't extend as much as yours. But I didn't need to grow as old as I am now to know that Elopedia isn't worthwhile checking and at the very best attempts to be a superspreader of FUD.

  14. DS999 Silver badge

    So even Grok is calling out Musk's lies?

    Time for it to taken to the woodshed and "reprogrammed" again. Which they'll overdo like last time and that means we can anticipate another visit from MechaHitler!

    1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      Re: So even Grok is calling out Musk's lies?

      Yeah, but, that in itself is kinda fun because they are forced to accept that, yet again, the real world isn't in their image and that reality really is to the left of them.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So even Grok is calling out Musk's lies?

        > "they are forced to accept that"

        No, they'll never accept that, regardless of the truth of the situation.

  15. Winkypop Silver badge
    Megaphone

    Hey Elon

    Get your StarCruiser rocket shit together. Land on another planet. Start your very own dystopian hell-scape.

    Thanks.

  16. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Trollface

    What a Guy!

    Electric Car Guy

    Space Guy

    Free Speech Guy

    Robot Guy

    Tunnel Guy

    Brain Link Guy

    (new)Twitter Guy

    Trump Guy (until he wasn't)

    Encyclopedia Guy (Encyclopedia Salesman?)

    We salute you!

    Hi De Hi!

    (No straightened limbs were raised in performance of the salute)

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: What a Guy!

      You forgot one. Paedo-guy!!

  17. Kane
    FAIL

    What a Grok of Shit

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      I must admit, his use of Grok seems to be at odds with what Grok actually means. It's both a simple and complex thing, and quite different from Musks use of a geeky SF concept picked up by the IT crowd to make himself sound "cool". For those who know, it's just make him seem even more out of touch than ever.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Quick test for "free speech" ideals

    Does Grottypedia have an article for Vivian Wilson?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Quick test for "free speech" ideals

      They don't have it yet, but I'm sure he'll get an article at some point. I'm sure it'll be more fair than the wikipedia version. Hopefully it'll get the pronouns right.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Already more accurate

    I've seen comparisons on X about some articles, George Floyd and Covid primarily. The Grokipedia articles are clearly a more fair and honest version. This will just keep getting better too. It'll be a nice alternative.

    1. graeme leggett

      Re: Already more accurate

      From "Covid-19 pandemic" on Grokipedia for your consideration

      "Federal agencies coordinated with platforms through frequent communications, establishing a censorship apparatus that targeted dissenting scientific views. In the case of Missouri v. Biden (later Murthy v. Missouri), a federal district court found evidence of a "far-reaching and widespread censorship campaign" by officials from the White House, CDC, and FBI, who coerced platforms to suppress content on COVID-19 topics including election integrity ties and vaccine skepticism; the Fifth Circuit affirmed this as likely violating the First Amendment by treating platforms as government proxies, though the Supreme Court dismissed the case on standing grounds in June 2024.

      Specific examples include the suppression of the Great Barrington Declaration, a October 2020 proposal by epidemiologists from Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford advocating focused protection over broad lockdowns, which NIH Director Francis Collins privately urged colleagues to "take down" via media campaigns labeling it fringe, resulting in Google downranking its website and limited academic discourse. The lab leak theory faced similar treatment: platforms like Facebook banned claims of a man-made virus origin until May 2021, despite early evidence from Wuhan lab safety lapses, with U.S. officials including Anthony Fauci coordinating efforts to discredit it as a conspiracy, as revealed in congressional hearings"

      By the way, all the references for the article are just bare urls, such as "https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7458444/" which is "Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 through recombination and strong purifying selection" Sci Adv2020 Jul 1;6(27):eabb9153. doi: 10.1126/sciadv.abb9153

    2. graeme leggett

      Re: Already more accurate

      And, I think readers can figure which online 'pedia is which here:

      George Perry Floyd Jr. (October 14, 1973 – May 25, 2020) was an American man with a lengthy criminal record including convictions for armed robbery, drug possession, and theft in Texas from 1997 to 2007.

      vs

      George Perry Floyd Jr. (October 14, 1973 – May 25, 2020) was an African American man who was murdered by a white police officer in Minneapolis, Minnesota, during an arrest made after a store clerk suspected Floyd had used a counterfeit twenty-dollar bill, on May 25, 2020

      1. Sub 20 Pilot

        Re: Already more accurate

        The big point is that both are true.

        1. graeme leggett

          Re: Already more accurate

          The points is

          Wikipedia makes the reason why a person is notable appear in the first sentence.

          It's a few sentences further into Grokipedia before the death is mentioned and a few more before the finding of murder is mentioned.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Already more accurate

          "Murdered" is a pretty questionable take on the whole thing. The Grokipedia version is much more fair to the whole situation.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Already more accurate

            Derek Chauvin was convicted of the murder of George Floyd by a court of law and his appeal denied.

            But then, I suspect you know that and you're being intentionally disingenuous and/or trolling.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Already more accurate

              Diff AC here.

              Watching from the UK the trial didn't strike me as being very fair. Seemed a certain verdict was required for race relations and that verdict was delivered. The policeman looked to have done his job correctly then got thrown to the wolves to appease certain liberal and black outrage.

    3. steelpillow Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Already more accurate

      I am impressed by the number of commentards above whose heads your neatly ironic lampoon flies.*

      * For their benefit, I should explain that I use the word "impressed" ironically.

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