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By Friday it's only natural to look back upon the working week with a certain nostalgia, an emotion The Register celebrates each week in On Call – the reader-contributed column that shares your tales of tech support trauma. This week, meet a reader we'll Regomize as "Seamus" who has fond memories of working as a technology …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ah, the well-intentioned. Given the threatened consequences (severe business continuity incident), it genuinely would have made sense to call an emergency board meeting.

    1. SVD_NL Silver badge

      Better safe than sorry. I always appreciate it when colleagues come up to me when they doubt the authenticity of certain messages, no matter how obvious.

      And this is a senior exec in the 90's, likely aging him 60-80 years old now. From experience this is not that wild of a response for people that age.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        >And this is a senior exec in the 90's, likely aging him 60-80 years old now. From experience this is not that wild of a response for people that age.

        Add at least a decade on. The mid-90s was 30 years ago now and senior execs then would most likely have been (at least) in their 40s or 50s...

        1. Roj Blake Silver badge

          Nonsense!

          The mid 90s were only 10 years ago.

          Weren't they?

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
            Pint

            Roj Blake,

            You're quite correct! I met up with a university mate I've not seen for a while down the pub on Wednesday night. We first met in September 1995. It being 2025 now, that means we've known each other for almost exactly 10 years and we're both in our early 30s and in our prime!

            PS neither of us is overweight and we're both supremely attractive to the opposite sex.

          2. mif

            Nah. That was the 80s. The 90s were probably after that.

          3. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

            Yes indeed! I just saw the first Futurama Episode!

          4. JWLong Silver badge

            The mid 90s were only 10 years ago.

            I don't know, I'm only 12 years old....................

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Reminds me of the email I received yonks ago...

          "I just clicked the 'I LOVE YOU' program in the email you told us not to open. What do I do now?"

          1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            Hand in your door pass at reception as you leave.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          What are you saying?

          I'm a senior exec in my 90's.

      2. pirxhh
        Coat

        Senior [whatever] are surely senior citizens now, unless they're late.

        I'm seeing myself out now.

        1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
          Windows

          My daughter currently attends my old alma mater university, and happened to recently join a society there which I used to be a member of.

          It brought back some quite nice memories until I realised that there's a 35 year gap between then and now...

          1. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

            A student landlord friend of mine (48yo) who fell into student landlording whilst still at Uni just had a tenant that was a child of one of his original tenants. How old does he feel?

    2. DS999 Silver badge
      Trollface

      I was ABSOLUTELY SURE

      This story was going to end in something like "as more reply-all replies occurred, their threat become reality as it took down our network for the promised 24 hours until IT could sort out the mess and remove all traces of the initial message to insure there was no recurrence once the network was brought back up"

      Kind of a disappointment how it did end, to be honest. Really got my hopes up halfway through only to have them dashed!

      1. Ol'Peculier

        Re: I was ABSOLUTELY SURE

        But, but, but... if it's been sent, why is it still here???

  2. blu3b3rry Silver badge
    Go

    I recall working as a temp agency contractor ten or twelve years ago alongside a fair pile of others, all from different agencies. Weekly timesheets had to be submitted.

    The more up to date agencies accepted the timesheets via email. One lady who had just started was from yet another agency. The only way they would accept timesheets was via postal service or fax!

    Cue a Friday afternoon helping a dumbfounded IT intern dig out a multi-function printer/fax unit from where it had been slumbering in the cupboard and connecting it up on a spare workbench, and off the timesheet went.

    We cleared off home and came back in on Monday morning to find five sheets of what was clearly spam in the output tray!

    Quite the introduction to things for the IT intern as well who stuck around to watch us send the fax off, having never seen one used before.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      I'd have thought that a strongly worded message to the agency was called for - either they get their act together or they will be banned from providing services and a more capable agency will be asked to take over her contract.

      1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
        Happy

        I'd have thought that a strongly worded message to the agency was called for - either they get their act together or they will be banned from providing services and a more capable agency will be asked to take over her contract.

        They tried that, but hadn't got any carrier pigeons or clay tablets to hand.

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          Not even an African pigeon?

          1. Stoic Skeptic

            Maybe an African Swallow?

    2. steviebuk Silver badge

      Same. IT contract in 2007 and the shitty agency only accepted timesheets via fax.

      1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

        Does the TPC email-to-fax gateway still exist? emailto recipent@4.4.1.1.4.2.8.1.8....etc.tpc.net or something. I used to "fax" the office that way before they could accept emails.

    3. MOH

      Actually, you've just reminded me I used to have to fax my timesheets to my agency. In 2001.

      Although contractors weren't given external email access where I was working, so there was some logic to the fax

    4. Slow Joe Crow

      dang, by 2000 the IT outsourcer I worked for had us submit timesheets online, albeit via a terminal emulator straight into a text based minicomputer application. I'm still not sure whether it was better or worse than emailing an excel file

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Good business decision. You did the data entry so they didn't have to pay someone to decipher the fax and (correctly) enter your hours.

  3. Korev Silver badge
    Coat

    > The Reply-All email came from a lowly consultant, who was let go for his criticism of the exec who sent the mail.

    Looks like the Exec couldn't handle the Fax

    1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
      FAIL

      ..so they fired the guy who pointed out it was a hoax?

      Considering that said low level employee saved them the cost of sanitising all the computers in the office, you'd think he would have gotten their thanks.

      ...t'was ever thus.

      1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
        Headmaster

        As usual, no good deed ever goes unpunished.

        Doubly so when it exposes manglement idiocy, nepotism, greed or similar traits.

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        The way I read it suggested that he was the hoaxer which would be why he was fired.

        1. collinsl Silver badge

          No, sadly, the way the story reads to me is that the person fired was the consultant who blasted the exec on reply all for falling for the scam.

    2. Sparkypatrick

      Just the fax, ma'am.

    3. Timop

      Ah the good old unwritten rules of workplace like publicly shame any superior and find out really soon. No matter how factually correct or on point you are.

      The superiors making constantly exactly similar jokes on others below them is just them showing how they are untouchable. And the meaner the jokes by them, the less capable they probably are to handle things if tables turn.

      I sure hope people at least got good laughs from the email. The memories seem at least to be warm.

    4. FIA Silver badge

      Looks like the Exec couldn't handle the Fax

      Smile he did not.

    5. David Hicklin Silver badge

      The lowly consultant's crime was to be critical about it, he might has survived if he has just said "relax everyone, this is just an hoax"....even better if sent to just the exec who could then issue his own update

      As the article says, the other consultants at least learned something from this about office politics.

  4. Nifty

    In the days of yore I set up an email to fax link so that my elderly mother could read emails sent by her grandchildren. She had her own unique email address for this. This worked well to start with, then mum gave out the email address to some local shops so they could email her when an order was ready or sent some product details. In no time at all spam from third parties started to arrive, wasting fax roll. It was possible to put a filter in eventually.

  5. gnasher729 Silver badge

    In Germany, there was a time when you would get a fax “This is a holdup! Fax us all your money!” and then everyone would pull their banknotes out of their wallets and fax it. Usually the fax was from some company you were working with! “Dies ist ein Überfax! Faxen Sie uns all Ihr Geld” - words very similar to what an armed bankrobber would say.

    1. JimboSmith

      We had one arrive one day that read this is a Lazy Fax Virus, Please fax me on to other people in your address book.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Sol, a "joke" version of the sort of "good luck" chain letters that user go around by snail-mail which warned that not sending it on would bring you bad luck?

        1. Rich 11

          I used to work at a university, back in the days when email was newfangled and shiny rather than the semi-torturous curse that we've since discovered it to be. I got a call from someone who had joined the faculty a couple of weeks earlier, and for whom I'd set up a new PC and given her a basic run-through just to get her going before she could book one of the introductory courses appropriate for her.

          "Hi, Rich11, it's Sandra X. You remember you set me up with email a fortnight ago? Well, I've got one through today and it's telling me if I don't forward it on to everyone then I'll get seven years bad luck. Is that true?"

          "Hi Sandra. Nice to hear from you. Remind me, please, but don't you teach philosophy?"

          [Small voice] "Oh."

          Sometimes people's normal critical faculties get short-circuited when faced with unusual situations, with things completely outside their prior experience.

          1. David Hicklin Silver badge

            > Sometimes people's normal critical faculties get short-circuited when faced with unusual situations, with things completely outside their prior experience.

            When a computer is involved, doubly so. And back then we were all IT babies at some point (unless you were born speaking in 1's and zero's)

  6. jake Silver badge

    The FAX is not dead yet.

    They are still in heavy use by judges and at law offices. City and County governments still use them, too. So do CPAs, notarys and the like.

    Note that I'm speaking of Silicon Valley and environs, where you'd think they'd know better ...

    1. Mishak Silver badge

      Solicitors

      I once asked my solicitor why the legal profession still insisted on sending documents by fax.

      "Because they can't be forged", I was told.

      I proceeded to show them how easy it was for me to send them a fax that appeared to have come from their own machine.

      "Oh, that was very easy".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Solicitors

        "Because they can't be forged"

        I imagine you could print a digital signature of the text on the page to be faxed (as a qcode?)

        I cannot imagine digital faxes being any more secure than signed encrypted email.

        1. John Robson Silver badge

          Re: Solicitors

          "I cannot imagine digital faxes being any more secure than signed encrypted email."

          It's not about what *is* secure, it's about what's been *documented* to be secure enough.

          Something new and really secure won't pass muster until someone forces it through as a material improvement.

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Re: Solicitors

            Yep that's an underrated reason why old technologies persist and better ones take time to supplant them.

            In the earlier days of the internet, there was no way to "sign" a document. No Docusign, and no one was yet cheeky enough to put a box "type your name to sign" like you still see sometimes. The only acceptable alternative was to print the document, sign it in ink, then fax it. Well I had email, they had email, so I thought I should be able to print, sign and scan the document, then send them a PDF of the scan. That was roundly rejected by my bank, they insisted I had to either fax the document, mail the document, or deliver it in person. I could not email it. They couldn't give me a good reason why I couldn't email them a scan, which was higher quality than a fax, other than "that's not how its done".

            I was consulting at a client site in Toronto at the time, and I had access to a printer/scanner but it couldn't fax. Or maybe it could but it was some sort of networked fax that would require having employee credentials or something. I suppose I could have found some sort of a Kinko's type place to send a fax for me but it was a sensitive document that I wouldn't have wanted to do that with, plus I was kind of annoyed at the whole thing.

            So I told them if they won't accept that email, then they'll have to wait until Friday (this was Monday afternoon) for the "time critical" document they needed me to sign. It was time critical for them, not so much for me, so I was happy to make them wait. When I dropped it off in person on Friday (I had to visit the bank anyway) the manager who was awaiting it told me he'd asked their legal department for an opinion on emailing scanned documents and was told "we'll have to research that". At some point later I remember emailing them documents so I guess eventually they got a favorable opinion.

            1. Terry 6 Silver badge

              Re: Solicitors

              There was also a period I had to go through where an emailed scanned document would do until the signed original could be sent so that they could get on and do whatever it was* but wouldn't finalise it until then.

              For a while, too, I faxed from my PC. They wanted me to print, sign and fax various documents. Instead I pasted an image of my signature into the documents and sent then via fax modem.

              *Too long ago to remember what any of these were. There were more than one.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Solicitors

            What matters is if something is considered legally valid, which merely indicates how terribly behind the times the law can get and how important it is to address that at speeds above glacial.

            This is also the exact reason for the long persistence of telex in shipping: a telexed order had legal statue because it was relatively hard to forge and every transmission resulted in a delivery confirmation.

            That, however, was two decades ago, I have no idea if it's still used - even shipping eventually modernises, evidenced by, for instance, the discontinuation of rowing by means of slave labour :).

            1. Yes Me
              Coat

              Re: Solicitors

              Email to Telex gateways were a thing for a while to get round this sort of idiocy. I think there was even a supported product on IBM mainframes. That dates it. And me.

              Where did I leave my coat?

      2. DJO Silver badge

        Re: Solicitors

        The real reason is that fax machines send a receipt on delivery but I suspect they've forgotten all about that and have the machines set to ignore receipts and keep using them "because".

        1. G.Y.

          Re: Solicitors

          The receipt only shows the recipient's RAM/Disk got the bits. If there's no paper, and then a power cut, the fax disappears

          1. David Hicklin Silver badge

            Re: Solicitors

            > The receipt only shows the recipient's RAM/Disk got the bits

            The one's I remember from the 1970/1980's only acknowledged it if it had printed out and printed it as it received it.

            No paper = error code

            Of course fax machines got more modern and convoluted so what you say could well be true now, one would hope that a disk copy at least preserved it

      3. Dave314159ggggdffsdds

        Re: Solicitors

        Whatever that solicitor might have mistakenly believed, the actual reason they hung on so long in that realm was that there was case-law proving that faxes were acceptable as a matter of law for various purposes, but none proving email was. The situation has changed, obviously - quite a long time ago, as far as I remember.

        https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/contact-or-visit-us/helplines/practice-advice-service/q-and-as/what-is-an-electronic-signature

        So, it must have been some time after 2000 that it was actually tested in court.

        1. beerandbiscuits

          Re: Solicitors

          In England and Wales the rules on service set out in Part 6 of the Civil Procedure Rules still make it easier to serve by fax than email where a firm has a fax number printed on their standard letterhead. If the fax number is there, you can serve documents on that firm (or in most cases their clients) by using that fax number and there is no opt out. Service by email requires prior permission from the firm, and for the firm to confirm limitations on their agreement to accept service, usually about maximum file sizes and use of particular addresses.

          The main reason most law firms don't publish fax numbers any more is to avoid having documents served in this way. Most firms do still have fax machines though because some mortgage lenders prefer to communicate by fax (no idea why).

          Some firms still don't accept service by email though. There is a risk involved - if a document is served by email, the time for responding to it runs from that date (if sent before 4pm, otherwise the next business day). If the email service takes place on the first day that person is on holiday and the date for responding is before he returns, tough; the deadline has been missed.

          1. Great Southern Land

            Re: Solicitors

            >>Some firms still don't accept service by email though..... If the email service takes place on the first day that person is on holiday and the date for responding is before he returns, tough; the deadline has been missed.

            And that's why the company letterhead should show an address along the lines of reception@abc.co.uk for service of documents, in the same way as a fax number.

            Need I also add that if someone is on leave, their email should be forwarded to someone (eg reception, manager, colleague)?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

      Yeah, we know.

      Coopersmith, Jonathan

      Faxed: The Rise and Fall of the Fax Machine (Johns Hopkins Studies in the History of Technology)

      ISBN 9781421421230

      Publisher: Johns Hopkins University Press

    3. keith_w

      Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

      Doctors and Pharmacies in Ontario and probably in the rest of Canada as well

      1. DanceMan

        Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

        "Doctors and Pharmacies in Ontario and probably in the rest of Canada as well"

        also in BC

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

          Wait, they had fax machines before Christ?

          :)

    4. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

      Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

      I believe that the medical profession in the US uses them as well. I remember a relatively recent incident at my pharmacist's where they told me that they couldn't fill a prescription until they got a FAX from my doctor.

      Whether this was a literal FAX or just hangover retro-jargon, I don't know, since the healthcare network I'm in uses the more or less ubiquitous EPIC electronic records system, which you would think wold be more efficient.

      Speaking of FAX freakouts, we had one in our lab back in the trailing edge of the FAX era which only seemed to be used as a recipient for spam, which I'd usually scoop up and feed to the paper shredder when I arrived in the morning.

      They were usually in the form of some "notice" from "HR" about special travel deals "employees" could get by calling some phone number ("scare quotes" intentional).

      One morning a new secretary got to the machine before I did and proceeded to duplicate the page and shove it under all the office doors.

      I had to explain to her that it was a fake.

      Yet another reminder that there's a first time for everyone.

      1. Erythrite

        Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

        Yep, FAXes are in heavy use in the medical system in California, probably because of the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA).* The main thing about a fax is that the data is not usually** stored electronically anywhere after the fax is received, unlike email, where both the sender and the receiver can retrieve a message and forward it after the message is received. This makes the message fairly secure as there usually only two printed copies with which to contend.

        However, many fax machines will store faxes being sent or received, which adds to the problem. Nevermind that many people use on-line fax services where one uploads an image that is then sent. My guess is that many medical offices use a computer to send faxes as well, though they may be able to receive faxes on a physical machine.

        *HIPAA: "It aimed to alter the transfer of healthcare information and stipulated guidelines by which personally identifiable information maintained by the healthcare and healthcare insurance industries should be protected from fraud and theft" (wikipedia)

        **"usually" unless your phone is being tapped etc.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

          "The main thing about a fax is that the data is not usually** stored electronically anywhere after the fax is received, unlike email, where both the sender and the receiver can retrieve a message and forward it after the message is received. This makes the message fairly secure as there usually only two printed copies with which to contend."

          vs

          "However, many fax machines will store faxes being sent or received, which adds to the problem."

          You're contradicting yourself.

          For at least a decade the floorstanding combined photocopier/printer/scanner/fax machines (from Canon, Minolta, etc) that medium/large companies use often contain a built-in storage device (HDD/SSD). One reason is for speed purposes - i.e. when sending a fax the machine scans in the whole document quickly, stores it locally and then faxes it at its' leisure (as obviously the scanning part is faster than the transmitting part). Conversely I assume any received faxes are also temporarily stored locally before being printed or forwarded.

          It has not been uncommon for security researchers/hackers to examine storage devices from 2nd hand machines and to discover large numbers of sensitive documents as the storage device was never properly erased before the machine's disposal.

          1. doublelayer Silver badge

            Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

            Indeed. A place I've volunteered with had a copier which has a fax function, although I don't know if they ever bother to use that part. It failed twice. Fortunately, they did not call me to fix it because I hate on principle any machine that prints on paper because I know it's going to break sometime for a non-hardware reason and be much harder to fix than it should be. They had a repair contract, so a technician came and fixed it. Whenever the technician left, they left them a hard drive that used to be in the copier because evidently it was storing copies of things which it didn't need to which might still be present on the disk.

            My main question was what the copier could possibly be doing to kill disks if replacing them was the way to fix the copier*, but my secondary question was why they had configured it to store all that data when they could have managed this with a RAM buffer alone.

            * I still don't know. The first disk to be removed was a small spinning rust affair and I just erased and junked it, but the second was a 500 GB SSD so I put it to work. It's still running now with not a SMART error after three years of post-copier use.

            1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

              Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

              I think your story is a bit muddled, including using pronouns "they" and "them" apparently for different entities separated by one other word.

              I'd guess that replacing the disk drive was indeed motivated by security, but that either the technician removed the drive so that data could be recovered -- and maybe drives failed often enough (some certainly did) to make replacing it a default action - or else the user removed the drive before the technician arrived, to stop the data from being stolen.

          2. Manolo
            Thumb Down

            Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

            You may have missed the word "however".

            He is not contradicting himself.

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: The FAX is not dead yet.

            Correct, that's why various government services and other locations which do not like to be named actually have encrypted storage. Just in case.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Back in the early '70's I'd often ring my wife (at that time my girlfriend), for a lunchtime chat. She was in a smallish office (readers into model making might remember MAP) and the person entrusted with picking up the phone wasn't too bright.

    All this was at the time if a lot of the Irish troubles.

    So I rang.

    "Model and Allied Publications. Can I help you?"

    In an Irish accent: "Discus da IRA.Youve heard of letter bombs? Well dis is da explodin' phone call"

    I had to redial

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      On the other hand...

      In an Irish accent: "Discus da IRA.Youve heard of letter bombs?Well dis is da explodin' phone call"

      If you had said Mossad, I might well have embarrassed my underwear.

    2. David Hicklin Silver badge

      > person entrusted with picking up the phone wasn't too bright

      I honestly thought this was going to end with "who she was also a bit slow picking up the phone which was shared with the fax and I had to start speaking in fax tones"

      Even to this day I can hear the opening tones of a Hayes modem when making an outgoing call in the dial up internet days (The Register may need an article on that just like the fax one at some point)

  8. Christoph

    Fax? It'll never replace Telex!

    1. jake Silver badge

      FAX? IT'LL NEVER REPLACE TELEX!

      FTFY

      1. Tim99 Silver badge

        A previous secretary of our retirement village had been taught to type on PMG telex machines. All of the village emails from him were, indeed, in UPPERCASE.

      2. ChrisC Silver badge

        - . .-.. . -..- ..--.. .. - .-- .. .-.. .-.. -. . ...- . .-. .-. . .--. .-.. .- -.-. . -- --- .-. ... . -.-.--

        Whaddya mean the post must contain letters, see above :-)

      3. Cheshire Cat
        Go

        Telex? It'll never replace proper telegrams!

        (I remember receiving a telegram expressing birthday greetings from my parents while at scout camp, dropped off by a boy on a bicycle and everything. If only I had kept it...)

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "Fax? It'll never replace Telex!"

      Many years after I thought telex was dead I was called to a client to repair an absolutely ANCIENT IBM PC (yes, PC, not the more modern XT or AT!) which the client, an international shipping insurance agent, still needed because of the 8-but Telex modem card in it for communicating with some of their more out of the way customers.

      Last week, I was out fixing an HP MFP, one of the big floor-standing ones, still in warranty and while disconnecting it noted the phone line plugged into it as well as the usual power and network connections. Yep, they are still using fax, although the on-site contact said it was very rare to send or receive one, they still had a requirement for it and HP still provide the option card.

      1. PRR Silver badge

        > HP MFP, ....the phone line plugged into it.... Yep, they are still using fax,

        I bought this recently, about +/-$80:

        Jul 14, 2021 — Print, copy, scan, and fax with the compact Brother MFC-J1010DW wireless color inkjet printer.

        Yep, the phone jacks are on the side. Have not tried them, last time we bought a house it was all "secure email" (what a pain), but it's in there if I need it. Is by far the best eighty-buck printer I ever met.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Yup, still have the functionality on my HP printer as well and the Macs still dutyfully install the drivers for it too, but (a) it's not connected to anything, (b) I have not sent a fax in literally decades, (c) I have no idea who I would send one to or who would try to send one to me and (d) I have given up on smoke signals as well..

        I have, however, just come up with a use for it - guess which number I am going to use for those places where I suspect they'll try to sell me something later? I'd love the idea of those scam call centers getting an earful of fax moden noises..

  9. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

    Fax machines, that brings back memories

    There's a relic of fax machines to be found if the TIFF file format in the form of CCITT modified Huffman run-length encoding. I recall implementing that in my own TIFF-IO module for our image processing systems, way back when (1993, as I recall).

    I also recall stories of fax machines being set up to send reports to the head office after midnight. Sometimes the phone number hadn't been entered correctly so some poor sod got woken up in the middle of the night, pick up the phone, and being treated to the scream of a fax machine trying to update sales figures.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      "Sometimes the phone number hadn't been entered correctly"

      I remember being on the sending end of that. We used fax S/W and the number was correct. The receiving office had two fax machines and for some reason redirected their calls on one to the other overnight. It was they who fumbled their own number.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      I recall many, many years ago being a perpetrator of such things.

      The days of FidoNet (yes, I did say it was a long time ago), and the overnight mail poll occurred in the early hours. FidoNet addressing was done through a "nodelist", which was just a CSV of Fidonet addresses (in the format 2:250/103) and the associated phone number, as well as some other technical details.

      Well, the problem with this was that if the nodelist file went missing (in my case as I was closing down the FidoNet node), instead of doing something sensible like throwing an error, the software driving the modem went "oh, must just be a strangely formatted number", and dialled the numbers (obviously without the punctuation).

      So, the first six digits of my upstream node's address just happened to match the phone number of some poor beggar on the other side of town. With this all being over the phone, busy tones and dropped calls were common, so you had a retry count that was not one or two.

      I was still living with my parents at the time, and the phone call from the Police on their voice line at the same address (my number was strictly for the modem) caused a momentary squeaky bum incident.

      Fortunately, the innocent victim did not want any further action taking, and my grovelling apology to the nice PC who called us satisfied all parties.

      A hasty removal of any automated processes followed.

      (Anon as, while ages ago, it's still a teensey bit embarrassing...)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

        Years ago, there was a phone in the corner of the tea room that folks would use to yak to their loved ones. If it rang, it would normally be answered as 'Up And Down Lift Company', 'Tartan Paint Company' or some such nonsense.

        This day the conversation went: 'Underground Airways', 'Can I book a flight to Málaga?'

        It turned out they had rung a travel agency just round the corner, got busy tone, so redialled but substituted the ATOL number for the last few digits

    3. NXM Silver badge

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      I was on the receiving end of that sort of nonsense from a supplier trying to fax invoices at 3AM to my 'receive a fax when I press the button' machine. It took several nights of lost sleep to find out who it was.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      i had a similar situation where the phone rang at 2am every weekday and there was just a bleeping (nothing as bad as the noise of fax thank goodness). The number didn’t accept incoming calls when i tried to call it and BT were useless when I spoke to them. So a colleague who had a contact somewhere - they wouldn’t say where - traced who owned the number and provided a another number to call them on. After calling them and speaking to a bloke there in their tech team, it was them calling me in the early hours. My number was a digit off one of theirs and the dialer had been programmed wrong. He apologised and said he’s fixed it but there was no explanation as to what it was calling for or what the company did.

    5. ComicalEngineer Silver badge

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      Our office phone used to receive "ghost" fax messages, often 3 - 4 within a period of an hour, then none for a week or so, then another bunch of 3 - 4.

      Despite the fact that our fax machine was on a dedicated line (with a completely different number) in the receptionists' office.

      This went on for several months until we managed to trace the sender to an automated reporting system operated by some company for their boiler house which would periodically send a fax detailing the amount of fuel used, water treatment chemical levels etc. Turned out that if the first fax failed it would repeat the message 2 - 3 times before giving in.

      We eventually found out a phone and fax number for the company's head office and IIRC a fax was sent their managing director in a harsh font.

      This was followed up with a polite but strongly worded phone call.

      The faxes ceased very quickly.

    6. Great Southern Land

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      Tasmanians would sympathize with the problems of late night fax calls

      Prior to Australia's change to 8-digit phone numbers, Sydney Area Code was 02, Melbourne was 03, Tasmania was 002, 003 and 004, depending on which part of the state.

      As a result, it was rather common for Tasmanian voice lines (especially 002 and 003 numbers) to go off in the middle of the night, thanks to incoming international faxes where the sender failed to drop the first 0 from the area code.

      The problem was solved by the 8-digit changeover, where Tasmania became part of 03, and their existing 6 digit numbers were changed to 62xxxxxx, 63xxxxxx, 64xxxxxx

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Fax machines, that brings back memories

      We used that in reverse.

      We had a hotdesk area which was used for contractors, but at some point a sales guy wandered in and proceeded to receive phone calls, loudly (we had a 'follow' system in place so you could reroute your calls to the phone you were nearest to). Even tually we got fer up and stuck a sheet of paper in a fax machine on the other end of the office and gave it the chap's number. We onlky had to restart it once (it times out after 10 tries) before he gave up :).

  10. Sam not the Viking Silver badge
    Pint

    Early On-Line Shopping

    Our progress-chaser received a phone-call from her husband; he had forgotten the shopping list. Could she remind him what was required?

    She faxed him the list, including a £10 note "To pay for it".

    A while later, he responded with a fax/picture of coins; "Your change." Enough to buy a beer ---->

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Early On-Line Shopping

      She faxed him the list, including a £10 note "To pay for it".

      Hardly any sillier than bitcoin, is it?

      Unless she faxed both sides of the tenner which could be difficult on one page, it would only be five quid.

      Curious whether an otherwise valid promissary note (cheque?) faxed would have been acceptable in those times.

      Faxes were very much a thing when I started in IT but the blighters never liked me and I rarely had much joy trying to send a fax. You learnt quickly to be very nice to the sexytaries (usually not onerous :) as the fax machines were obedient servants in their charming hands. Both the faxes and the ladies are long gone but only the latter is regretted.

      † clever el Reg readers would of course photocopy each side and fax the two photocopies together.

      1. Roopee Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: Early On-Line Shopping

        Have you ever tried to photocopy/scan a tenner? Most machines won't let you scan money...

        I discovered this at a school around 20 years ago when I was asked to assist a teacher who was struggling to make some "play money" as a teaching aid - we both thought there was something wrong with the new colour laser photocopier/printer!

        I've always wondered how they are able to recognise currency notes?

        I found by empirical research, i.e. trial and error using my own MFP, that you can scan small sections and stitch the images together, but then it won't print the result!

        1. RMclan

          Re: Early On-Line Shopping

          Our colur photocopier won't copy £5, 10 or £20 notes (not tried a £50 note) if you lay them horizontally on the screen, but rotate them 90 degrees and they will copy just fine. JUst have to set the paper source to the A4R tray instead of of the A4.one.

        2. mif

          Re: Early On-Line Shopping

          "Have you ever tried to photocopy/scan a tenner? Most machines won't let you scan money..."

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation

        3. Gavin Chester

          Re: Early On-Line Shopping

          Is a system called Eurion

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation

          1. David Hicklin Silver badge

            Re: Early On-Line Shopping

            Just looked on a £10 note and on the front the pattern of dots running up the side is repeated constellations....never realised that before !

        4. robinsonb5

          Re: Early On-Line Shopping

          I gather some machines will actually stop working and require a service call if you try it too many times.

        5. PRR Silver badge

          Re: Early On-Line Shopping

          > Most machines won't let you scan money...

          My $80 Brother MFC-J1010DW happily copied one side of a US$20 bill. Appears to be within 1% of correct size. I can't judge color well. It might pass in bad light.

          And maybe the Treasury will knock o.............

          1. PRR Silver badge

            Re: Early On-Line Shopping

            > MFC-J1010DW happily copied one side of a US$20 bill.

            Magnifier tole me there was no "Orion" pattern on the face side. But there was faint yellow "20"s on the backside, next to the trees next to the famous building. I copied that side, it scanned an inch, and that was it. I got a picture of the first inch of the bill.

            Seems to me if you copied the face on *both* sides, very few suckers would notice. Just think it had been stacked by professional or machine.

            Getting the "feel" right is of course a whole nother game. While fancy letter-paper has similar stiffness, inksquirt or xerography is not intaglio, water-base inkjet and cheap toner don't have mint-grade feel.

    2. The commentard formerly known as Mister_C

      Re: Early On-Line Shopping

      Fans of the highly steamed Goon Show will, of course, be quite used to photographs of currency being used to pay bills.

      "

      Seagoon: Well, gentlemen, I've read the meter. And you were quite right. You'd only put on one more therm - one and six please.

      Grytpype: Right. Here's a photograph of two shillings.

      Seagoon: Thank you. And here's a photograph of sixpence - change.

      Grytpype: Thank you.

      "

      and later

      "

      Seagoon: But if you're President Fred, there's a gas bill here which now stands at four pounds.

      Bloodnok: Oh! Right, I'll pay you. Here's a photograph of a four pound note.

      "

      (Foiled by President Fred, text lifted from https://www.thegoonshow.co.uk/scripts/president_fred.html)

    3. Chris Evans

      Re: Early On-Line Shopping

      I suspect it is an urban myth but about thirty years ago there was a story going round that one of the latest colour photocopiers was so good it was being used to counterfeit Canadian? bank notes one group of the perpetrators were only caught when the photocopier was repossessed for non payment and a sheet of banknotes was found inside which had only had one side copied!

  11. Carl W

    Reply-all

    I do love a good reply-all e-mail storm:

    "Please remove me from this list"

    "Please everyone stop replying to all"

    1. MarkTriumphant

      Re: Reply-all

      As one of those who replied with the second option, the real thing to avoid is having read receipts requested. As it was a large company, 40,000 receipts later...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Reply-all

      The default in Outlook for out of office messages is to send only 1 message to each sender.

      When we first moved to our own in house Exchange server in about 2018, a couple of former colleagues in the sales department believed they should send a response to every email regardless of how many someone sent them so they set up autoreply rules instead of using the Out of Office Assitant. They also forwarded a copy of every email to the other person.

      This worked fine until they both set up out of office rules up for the Christmas break, the first time both would be out of the oiffice at the same time.

      Every email that came in to user 1 got replied to the original sender and copied to user 2. Every email that came in to user 2 got replied to the original sender and copied to user 1. Unfortunately one of them hadn't thought to exclude the other from the autoreply rule.

      The server crashed about 20 minutes after the first email came in to one of their inboxes, luckily we hadn't even left the office before it died.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Reply-all

        I suppose even then they didn't learn that messages from sales people are often unwelcomed by the recipients.

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: Reply-all

        Just like a chap in our office who auto-forwarded emails to his home* email which was fine until when he was out of the office and not at home...his home email ran out of space and started auto-responding back...

        Crashed the email system.

        *totally against company policy of course, I think he survived with a good telling off.

    3. EnviableOne Silver badge

      Re: Reply-all

      its worse than that, there was a reply to All storm in NHS Mail, including all 840k nhs staff, took weeks to sort it out.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37979456

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Of the nineties?

    I saw the asterisk and assumed it would lead to a caveat: "except in the NHS", where they were common place until relatively recently!

    1. John 110
      Coat

      Re: Of the nineties?

      when I retired in 2019 the Maternity department was still faxing CHI numbers of newborns to our Lab office staff every morning.

    2. midgepad Bronze badge

      it was this century the local NHS

      ...was so keen to send us faces, or possibly receive them, that they bought a fax machine and gave it to us.

      Some of my staff liked it.

      It worked,until the paper ran out. They didn't send any more.

      Most messages went half a mile, some a couple of miles. If it was urgent I'd drop the original in on my way home, otherwise it wouldn't be there until th3 following afternoon.

      As for received faces: never saw one I wanted before th3 hard copy arrived, or that could easily be read,

      (We'd had a scanner, upstairs, and a laser printer, downstairs, for years, and a fax modem card, the two storey fax machine/copier)

  13. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    OK, when you've all finished laughing at fax machines - think of all those big businesses who've been taken down with malware breaches recently. What wouldn't they have given to be able to revert to fax for some of their communications.

    1. Sam not the Viking Silver badge

      In the days before email..... By fax, you could send a hand-written message, including a sketch, and get a reply with a marked-up correction/addition/explanation by return.

      I slightly regret the loss of the telex machines. We had three formidable operators: There should have been a sign over the door: "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

      Sometimes you didn't, nay couldn't, leave the telex room unscarred....

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        "Sometimes you didn't, nay couldn't, leave the telex room unscarred...."

        Don't just leave it there. How scathed were you?

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "What wouldn't they have given to be able to revert to fax for some of their communications."

      Would they even work over a digital phone line?

      1. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

        Slightly surprised that none of the knowledgeable techs here have offered an answer to this question, so I'll stick my neck out & guess that yes, they'd work fine.

        The fax output was, (as anyone regularly woken up by a misconfigured one will remember) just a fast series of tones, all (AFAIK) well within the audible spectrum, so surely a digital line would treat them like any other noise made into a telephone handset's microphone, & deliver / reproduce them at the receiving end?

  14. MiguelC Silver badge

    Old times office pranks

    Someone at my office once sent a fax to the office general fax number purporting to be from a dance school and confirming a colleague's ballet classes booking, complete with spoofed origin number, and everyone pretended to believe it to be real. Good way to embarrass a macho bully :)

  15. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    Oh, the 1990s

    • In pre-Unicode days, FAX machines were used extensively throughout Asia because PCs supported non-Roman alphabets and ideograms poorly, if at all. ("Code pages" -- shudder.)

    • At work we had a roll-of-thermal-paper-type FAX machine. One morning I walked in to find the supply roll empty, and the floor behind the machine covered with Spam-FAX adverts of various sorts.

    • On my home PC, I had one of those wonderous option cards known as a FAX/modem. The accompanying software would store incoming FAXes on your hard disc, let you review them on your computer's CRT display, and let you print the ones you wanted.

    1. Tim99 Silver badge

      Re: Oh, the 1990s

      I think Windows 3x had fax software. I wrote a couple of applications that sent faxes when some condition became true/false.

      1. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

        Re: Oh, the 1990s

        There's a reason they're called fax modems.

      2. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

        Re: Oh, the 1990s

        Ah, fond memories of WinFax Pro! That and a direct modem link let me WFH before public Internet access was a thing. I think that I first went "on-line" with a 300 baud modem link from my BBC Micro to the Unix box at the college where I was doing my MSc.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh, the 1990s

      Back in the 80s(?) the office gained an early hard wired Xerox fax machine for no apparent reason. We never used it to send or receive anything... It just sat there unused

      Then one day it burst into life and started to churn out page after page (uncut) of an unknown document and had got though half a roll of thermal paper before we hit stop... that was the only time it did anything... never did find out who it was or who it was meant for

    3. C R Mudgeon Silver badge

      Re: Oh, the 1990s

      Then there were the Faxback [sp?] services, a pre-Internet mechanism for distributing documents etc. You'd phone an IVR system and key in the numbers of the documents you wanted, along with your fax number. The documents you'd requested would be faxed to you forthwith.

      I used those to get tech documentation, but can well imagine tax departments offering such a service as well, for all their many forms, bulletins, etc.

  16. xyz Silver badge

    I photocopied my bum once...

    I got a spot but no virus.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I photocopied my bum once...

      I broke a flatbed scanner by sitting on it.

      It was a pane in the ass.

  17. tfewster Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Have you fallen for a hoax? Or had to explain to a user that their fears are unfounded?

    It's not worthy of an On Call of its own: But around 2004 an exec forwarded a hoax email "from the London Ambulance Service" to the entire company:

    "New gang members drive around, deliberately with no lights on their cars. The first person who 'flashes' them has to be followed by that new gang member in their car, who then has to fire a shot into that vehicle"

    The "London Ambulance Service" as a source raised my suspicions, so I checked snopes.com: www.snopes.com/fact-check/lights-out/

    I politely emailed the exec with the link. They had the grace to send a retraction to everyone.

  18. goblinski Bronze badge

    Can we start a counter on how long the streak will be of stories where someone gets fired ?

    On-Call has been quite the hecatomb this last few weeks.

  19. David Robinson 1

    The Secret Life of the Fax Machine

    For those who want some nostalgia, Tim Hunkin has put the old 'Secret Life' episodes on his YouTube channel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUyt9RG7pk

    1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: The Secret Life of the Fax Machine

      Nice one - there goes any vague chance of any more work getting done today...

      Have one of these in return >>>>

  20. disgruntled yank

    Faxes

    Some evenings I teach English as a Second Language (ESL). earlier in the year I stepped into a class as a substitute, and starting going through a lesson with the students. One of them started laughing when the dialogue reached "What is your fax number?". Evidently the fax is as dead as a hammer in Sao Paolo, and it is only in backwaters such as the USA where the fax lingers on.

    Also within the year, I have found and discarded spam faxes on a departmental multifunction printer, so I guess the student wasn't entirely wrong.

    1. MiguelC Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Faxes

      "São Paulo"

      1. disgruntled yank

        Re: Faxes

        @MiguelC

        Yes, quite. Have an upvote.

  21. Brynstero0

    In the Words of Joe Friday

    Just give me the "fax" ma'am

    (Dragnet)

    1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: In the Words of Joe Friday

      And slightly less enjoyably by John McClane in Die Hard 2, if I remember well...

  22. Jay 2

    One upon a time I worked for a phone company whose logo resembled a Death Star. One fine day we had two emails arrive in short order. The first was a global offering, along the lines of the CEO we'd headhunted and no doubt offered great terms to etc was going away after 9(!) months with a generous package. The other was more local telling us to cut costs etc.

    Someone decicded to do a reply all (I forget to which email) pointing out the glaring chasm and contridiction between the two bits of info. Within a day or so nother email arrived telling us that the offending indivdual was a contractor who was told their services would not be required, possibly angling no no permanent member of staff would never think such things...

  23. Robert E A Harvey
    Flame

    Tomfoolery is better than malice

    Ah the happy days of fax shenanigans.

    Drawing a sinusoidal cycle in pencil on a bit of paper, gumming the ends together to make an endless loop, and sending it to head office, who got a whole roll of paper with a sine wave on.

    Then ringing up two hours later, in the certain knowledge that some lowly functionary would have binned it, and saying "did you get my banner for Sir Leo's presentation this afternoon?"

    Or sounding a message on pirated Buckingham palace letterhead asking for someone to contact the Met about security arrangements for tomorrow's royal visit - giving the phone number of a Chinese restaurant.

    Most fax machines printed a header with the phone number of the source - but that wasn't caller ID, it was supplied by the machine at the other end. I discovered that Panasonics would let you programme anything you liked, such as "Embassy of the GDR" or strings of oriental characters . So all sorts of unsettling suggestions were possible.

    1. PRR Silver badge

      Re: Tomfoolery is better than malice

      > Most fax machines printed a header with the phone number of the source - but that wasn't caller ID, it was supplied by the machine at the other end. I discovered that Panasonics would let you programme anything you liked, such as "Embassy of the GDR" or strings of oriental characters . So all sorts of unsettling suggestions were possible.

      From the (hard to find) docs of my $80 4-in-1:

      Set Your Station ID

      Set the machine's Station ID if you want the date and time to appear on each fax you send.

      (USA only)

      The Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 makes it unlawful for any person to use a computer or electronic device to send any message via a telephone fax machine unless such messages clearly contain, in a margin at the top or bottom of each transmitted page, or on the first page of the transmission, the date and time it is sent and an identification of the business or other entity or other individual sending the message and the telephone number of the sending machines or such business, other entity or individual. To program this information into the fax machine, see Set the date and time and Set your Station ID.

      Enter your fax number (up to 20 digits) using the dial pad, and then press OK.

      Enter your name (up to 20 characters) using the dial pad, and then press OK.

      It will dial-out even when these fields are not set. Even with no phone line! So not enforced. I recall older faxes declined to work until the ID was set.

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Telex, too.

    I stopped in the Irvine Bridge hotel during the troubles. We regularly got woken by the fire alarm and had to shiver in the carpark in the snow while the building was checked for bombs. This was before "code words" were used to validate a genuine IRA caller from pissed jocks having a laugh.

    Then came code words. The hotel got a handful of telexes (from the police, the NI office, probably the BBC) saying that if <codeword> was used, to take the threat seriously and react immediately.

    The next day they got a telex, intended as a reminder, saying something like "the IRA codeword is..." And we were all in the car park in our Jim jams in falling snow for two hours.

    I moved into a B&B room in a pub instead.

  25. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    A client of mine (engineer's supplier - think big shelves of bits of metal and counter staff in brown coats) had a fax machine into the early 2000s to take orders. He also had a modem on the back of his Unix server. If he wanted me to look at something he'd ring my mobile, tell me what the problem was and then ring off, unplug his fax and plug the modem into the fax line. My phone was one of the clamshell Nokia Communicators so I'd flip it open, dial in sort out whatever it was.

    All advanced tech for its time. All outdated now. All a good deal more secure than leaving everything connected to the internet. Have things really got better?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      RE: My phone was one of the clamshell Nokia Communicators...

      I think it was a Motorola flip phone (or a Nokia mini brick style?), that I bought a special cable for that would let it work as a 4800 baud modem for my laptop. I had a pay by the minute phone plan so I only used it if I was really out in the sticks*. But I was on call by email 24/365 so it was good to have so I didn't need a phone jack.

      * OK, when I was in a campground with no cell service (in the north woods of Wisconsin), I had a coworker monitor the emails and call the campground office to tell me if there was a problem. I lucked out and didn't have to drive the 30 miles to the nearest town to get cell service.

    2. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Not quite the same thing but the company I was working for in the l1990's go this newfangled sales assistant that gave each sales rep all the info about every customer, and they could dial in to a modem to connect to the office LAN to update both the main system and their laptop with any updates

      There was a bank of modems with call hunting (or something similar) connected to a PC , can't remember what the software was now but I put together some scripts working with the modem codes so that only certain numbers were accepted, and then it called that number back so saving the calling person the costs of a possibly lengthy metered phone call. (as well as a rudimentary measure of security)

      Was quite please with what I done, and as it could also connect via telnet to the HP mini in the room that ran the ERP package, I set it up with my own number so that I could do stuff from home at weekends (on overtime) instead of travelling in.

      Ah the days of doing things hands on and getting your hands dirty

  26. munnoch Silver badge

    The Fax machine is alive and well in Japan. This meant Asahi could resort to using it to process orders during their recent cyber incident.

  27. Emjay111

    Fax protocols and capabilities are actually surprisingly complex. During the late 2000s, colour fax was a feature introduced by certain Japanese MFP manufacturers.

    Whilst there was a push to eliminate fax use from the NHS, it's certainly not gone away completely. At one point, the Office of Government Contracts specification for a basic colour MFP included a fax card in every machine. As a result, hundreds (if not thousands) of large MFPs were installed in places which never had a phone line.

  28. steviebuk Silver badge

    I've been looking for it for years on and off

    Being an immature student in the early 90s and doing a computer course, was finally getting to use a PC (didn't have one at home). Discovered the computers in the study room were wide open, no real security to stop us installing crap. So, off the front cover of PC Format I believe it was, or another computer magazine of the time, on the floppy, was a screen saver that were tiny spiders. It was either a screen saver or part of a joke program package.

    Once setup and running, the tiny spiders would start eating the desktop. It reminded me of the old DOS virus' like Cascade but in Windows. I think it might of been Windows 95 or could have been Windows 3.11. Pretty sure it was just a screensaver, so obviously don't touch the mouse and it would activate. I was sat on one of the computers after I'd put it on 5 of them one day and another student came in. She sat at one near me and some time later, started reading what she'd just been typing. And then it happened, the spiders kicked in and started to eat the screen. She panicked as she hadn't saved her work. I thought "Oh, that's not fun. It was supposed to be funny......just move the mouse, just move the mouse", I said to myself. After that incident I decided to remove it.

    Been looking for that program on and off ever since.

  29. martinusher Silver badge

    What's with the instant firing?

    I don't think I've ever worked for a company that would fire employees just because they've made a mistake or they've embarrassed someone. But then I've always been 'technical', not some seemingly easily replaceable work-widget.

    Its a poor attitude by management which likely is the root cause of anemic company performance.

    1. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Re: What's with the instant firing?

      Could these be in America ? I would agree that it was not usually* a done thing in the UK or Europe

      * as always there are exceptions in some places, depended on how strong a Union presence (if any) they had.

  30. parrot

    Illegal document

    I did a similar naughty prank when I worked in a school. On April fools day I waited until a particularly anxious colleague was teaching in one of the computer suites and sent a few pages to the printer which simply said, “illegal document blocked”.

    My colleague assumed that a student had tried to print something unwholesome and went off to tell the head of ICT, whose instinct said this was something to do with me. They made a point of mentioning to someone else while I was in earshot that the deputy head had got wind of the prank and was looking for the person responsible.

    I was pretty sure they were bluffing and didn’t rise to it, but after a couple of hours my resolve weakened and I had to ask if they were serious. After stewing on it that long the joke was definitely on me.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "...the late 1990s – the dying years of the fax machine."

    As I continue to work with HP/Poly on getting their ATAs working with Microsoft Teams to support fax machines.

  32. tweell
    Stop

    Fax spam is the worst spam

    Because it costs you ink and paper. A CIO decided that we needed a fax machine in our office, and had one installed with great fanfare. This was in 2004, and the only person that used it was him. Well, fax spam was still kicking, because someone's wardialer found us and we would regularly get 20--30 pages of cr*p to fill up our trashcan with.

    I wish that I had thought of it, but it was my boss who went to a hobby store and came back with a pack of black paper. He would fax the spammers a request to stop, followed by 20 pages of black. That worked surprisingly well, for once we were costing them money.

  33. Daveytay

    FaxRelay feature

    We had a client who was a national account and they had branches everywhere. There were long distance zone surcharges on phone calls at the time, but there were overlapping zones. A quirk of the time in New Zealand.

    So they thought about it and had a relay that printed and forwarded the price list updates or something like that to all branches with one fax. Each branch was configured to print and forward if it came from a certain number to the next one in the chain and of course the actual config was different from branch to branch so it was a pain to configure. Somehow this became the responsibility of the fax installer because the sales person said so to get the deal.

    This is a story I believe because I still work with someone who had to implement their area's part of the national solution.

    Another time when I was fixing the good old Laser Fax made by Lanier. It may have been a rebranded Toshiba engine? A real beast of a machine that could do anything from FM (analogue with a fantastic greyscale gradient but SLOW) to CCIT G4 with JBIG. Anyways, it was at a Gerontology Professor's Office at UBC in Vancouver Canada and once a year they had to receive faxes from a field office that just had a Satellite phone hooked up to a fax at a field office in a remote African camp. I would arrive and dumb down the config of the machine so it would NOT drop the call! Dropping the call was super expensive and there was bad jitter which would mess up MH encoding, delay on ACK signals etc. Many things got turned off and the max speed was dramatically reduced but the call would not drop and the graphs were legible without line artifacts that would cause bad science. I did that once a year for about 5 years in a row.

    Good times.

  34. Anonymous John
    FAIL

    I read years ago of someone folding a letter in half before faxing it, as the contents were confidential.

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