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Microsoft buys a lot of GPUs from both Nvidia and AMD. But moving forward, Redmond's leaders want to shift the majority of its AI workloads from GPUs to its own homegrown accelerators. The software titan is rather late to the custom silicon party. While Amazon and Google have been building custom CPUs and AI accelerators for …

  1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Trollface

    Coming soon . . .

    . . . a GPU that crashes twice a day and requires the whole server to be restarted.

    1. nijam Silver badge

      Re: Coming soon . . .

      > a GPU that crashes twice a day and requires the whole server to be restarted.

      Surely you mean "a GPU that crashes twice a day and requires the whole internet to be restarted." Don't downplay Microsoft's ambitions.

  2. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

    Back at "route 128"

    Every vertically structured giant company developing their own chips in house, not even bothering to directly compete with NVidia because their own advertising and SaS serfdoms are so huge they have no need to. Its like the days of DEC before Silicon Valley surpassed that closed model with decentralized, flat hierarchy, collaborative style of business, which proved vastly more competitive and productive.

    Only this time, the usurper is more likely to be in <redacted> than in the US. It not too late, but the clock is ticking.

  3. Nate Amsden Silver badge

    meta only one left?

    Read or heard something recently comparing Google's AI stuff to Meta's AI stuff, saying something like Meta had deployed something like 1000x more Nvidia GPUs vs Google but their AI stuff wasn't as good as Google's, failing to mention that Google has their own AI hardware too.

    Doing a quick web search seems to indicate that Meta does have their own AI chips, and may start testing the first systems in production later this year, apparently ordering up to 6,000 racks of them.

    Nvidia's going to need all the (other) customers they can get, no wonder they are itching so hard to sell to China, once these hyperscalers get going, for sure they will dramatically scale down purchases of Nvidia hardware.

  4. chuckufarley
    Coat

    Microsoft has has alway been great...

    ...At getting what they want. Their customers are screwed though.

  5. mevets

    same old

    business strategy -- the second mouse gets the cheese.

  6. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

    Soooo...

    Indian chips for M$ then?

  7. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Mushroom

    The walled garden...

    Is now gaining a barbed wire entanglement.

  8. GNU Enjoyer
    Angel

    >Redmond also has its own CPU called Cobalt

    That immediately made me think of; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb?useskin=monobook#Radiation_levels_and_time

    (While those wouldn't destroy the Earth, those would make the bombed area uninhabitable for at least 100 years without decontamination).

    1. Freddellmeister

      Why did you think about destruction rather than the original cobalt cube?

      https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/sec/1111/Cobalt/

  9. Gene Cash Silver badge
    FAIL

    I'll believe it when I see it...

    Good luck... making efficient GPUs is hard, and doesn't just happen because the CEO gets a bad case of Not Invented Here.

    1. Like a badger Silver badge

      Re: I'll believe it when I see it...

      MS board thought process: GPU design...how hard can it be? We'll employ the cheapest international tech labourers wherever we can find them, and give them access to CoPilot.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: I'll believe it when I see it...

        Their mice are pretty good for the price so they can obviously do hardware

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I'll believe it when I see it...

          They're almost certainly subcontracted and are anyway several magnitudes easier than GPUs.

  10. ChrisElvidge Silver badge

    And the hardware requirements for Windows 12 will include a MAIA chip.

    1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

      And machines that include such a chip won't run Linux.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Can see the post from Linus already about the chip and any drivers/libraries.

  11. Adair Silver badge

    All your cycles are belonging to us

    (see title)

  12. Ian Johnston Silver badge

    It's not as if "AI" does or will ever do anything useful. They might as well burn the money themselves.

    1. MrRtd

      The comedic AI output is useful. Everyone needs a good laugh now & then.

  13. JamesTGrant

    Mmmm

    We want flexibility….

    Except it takes a few years between design to manufacture, and then you need a fab slot, and assembly. Which means you need at LEAST 3 years between ‘I want to do this’ and ‘this’ being a real physical option.

    At LEAST 3 years without changing your mind or ballsing up the Project Management…

    But it’s an easy thing for the CEO of a software licensing company to say.

  14. JimmyPage Silver badge
    Megaphone

    MS should stick to pumping out shit software,

    and leave shit hardware to the experts.

    And I say this despite being a fan of Windows Phones - a missed opportunity.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    They clearly have forgotten their last foray into hardware.

    Chip manufacturing, the fabrication process and the design aren't simple things. They'd be far better off taking an OEM chip from someone else and negotiating a good license/contract for it

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      > They'd be far better off taking an OEM chip from someone else

      Just checking Farnel

      AI processor suitable for infinity-scale Azure data centers..... sort by in-stock .....

  16. Grunchy Silver badge

    In a race to somewhere

    I think it’s pretty cool you can just ask the A.I. something and it spontaneously writes you a wikipedia page about it. Then you press it for details and it spews out lies and exaggerations. So “why” is it lying and exaggerating, it can’t be a part of its programming, could it? The training material itself must be full of lies and exaggeration.

    Heyyyy what if A.I. is a gigantic swindle perpetrated by the computer itself? Where does the bombastic ignorance originate?

    1. nijam Silver badge

      Re: In a race to somewhere

      > Where does the bombastic ignorance originate?

      Plenty of examples amongst the world's "leaders".

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