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Improvements in repairability might have been made elsewhere in Apple's product range, but the AirPods Pro 3 model continue to make repairs virtually impossible. iFixit's teardown of Apple's latest earbuds reveals a device that remains stubbornly unrepairable — a disappointing finding considering even the ultra-thin iPhone Air …

  1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

    Not surprising...

    ...Apple has baked planned obsolescence into their products since the introduction of the Mac..

    1. JPCavendish

      Re: Not surprising...

      AirPods are not Macs. It's absolutely acceptable that they are not repairable; nobody with more than one braincell buys them with any expectation of repairability, and Apple will replace them anyway with AppleCare for £29. You likely couldn't repair them for cheaper than that, even if it was physically possible.

      1. MyffyW Silver badge

        Re: Not surprising...

        Cover costs £39 quid for just two years, and subject to an excess of £25 per replacement. That's a significant proportion of their original price. I'd rather just buy something more robust, with a better battery life .... or a cable like real headphones.

      2. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Devil

        If You Buy From Apple...

        Then you're going to be forced to buy from them again.

        Otherwise, you're just a parasite in their mind.

      3. DrXym Silver badge

        Re: Not surprising...

        No it isn't acceptable. It's dickish and it normalizes dickishness across the entire industry.

    2. DrXym Silver badge

      Re: Not surprising...

      Apple got stung by the popularity of the Apple II and all the clones that popped up so they went out of their way to be proprietary from that point on. And to that they've added walled gardens, DRM, built-in obsolescence and lots and lots of e-waste.

      1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

        Re: Not surprising...

        All the clones that popped up? Of the Apple ][? You mean the Franklin Ace? Apple has *always* been very protective of their IP.

    3. IGotOut Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: Not surprising...

      I'm in the process of upgrading a 2012 Mac Mini.

      Just upgraded to 16gb RAM and I'll be slapping an SSD in there once I've loaded a Linux ISO onto it.

      Didn't even need a screwdriver to remove the case to swap the memory.

      So yeaaahhhh.

      1. LBJsPNS Silver badge

        Re: Not surprising...

        Really? How nice. Now load the latest Mac OS on it.

      2. Richard 12 Silver badge

        Re: Not surprising...

        All that has ended. Now you can't even upgrade the SSD.

  2. JPCavendish

    Who the hell buys these things expecting to repair them?

  3. Admiral Grace Hopper

    Earrings

    I don't buy expensive earbuds for the same reason that I don't buy expensive earrings, which is my fine collection of single earrings.

    1. withQuietEyes

      Re: Earrings

      The trick is to buy earrings in similar colors but different shapes, and then you can pair up the single ones and look Cool! (I think, at least. Admittedly that opinion is not always shared.)

      1. MyffyW Silver badge

        Re: Earrings

        If it works for you hun, go for it.

        Another trick is to wear incredibly fluffy jumpers. They are an absolute magnet for earrings, chains and random pieces of jewellery. Not all of it my own.

  4. Dan 55 Silver badge

    "destined for recycling"

    By which we mean as it's unrepairable it's also not recyclable and it's destined for landfill.

    1. Woodnag

      Re: "destined for recycling"

      destined for landfill, with Li battery still inside.

      1. spuck

        Re: "destined for recycling"

        Why? Grind them up like many other types of e-waste before extracting the metals.

        1. Gene Cash Silver badge
          Mushroom

          Re: "destined for recycling"

          I'd like to see you grind up a lithium battery... from far away with a suitable amount of popcorn.

          1. spuck

            Re: "destined for recycling"

            One smaller than a pencil eraser? I'd take that bet... this ain't a Tesla-sized battery we're talking about.

    2. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: "destined for recycling"

      Apple will take them back for recycling, and pays for shipping.

      I think they should pay people a few bucks to give people an incentive to recycle them. Well, enough that people don't simply throw them away, but not so much they become a target for thieves grabbing them out of people's ears and running I guess.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge
        1. JPCavendish

          Re: "destined for recycling"

          "iFixIt: Apple’s Recycling Program Forced Recyclers to Shred Over 530,000 Repairable iPhones"

          The lawsuit alleged that the recycler was violating their contract; employees were bulk-stealing phones, repairing and reselling them. Because repairs were being done off the books, it would not have been possible for Apple to verify that the phones were safe and high quality, meaning there was an inherent risk of a rash of dodgy batteries catching fire, substandard screens and any number of reputationally damaging consequences.

          Whether you agree with this or not (personally I think if a phone can be properly repaired and resold then it should be) it doesn't negate the fact that the reseller violated their terms and Apple was likely at least legally correct in shredding both the contract and the devices involved.

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: "destined for recycling"

        "I think they should pay people a few bucks to give people an incentive to recycle them. "

        Two things will happen.

        1) One goes missing and the other goes into a drawer

        2) Run time goes to shit and they wind up in a drawer

        When rediscovered in the drawer, the recycling incentive will have been cancelled and they'll ( or the remaining one) will go into the bin with the coffee grounds, egg shells and the oil from the previous night's fry up.

        1. MyffyW Silver badge

          Re: "destined for recycling"

          At least the oil from the previous night's fry up is going in the bin. It's all I can do to persuade my significant other that warm bacon dripping is not soluble in water, regardless of how much fairy liquid or perchlorate bleach is squirted on it.

          1. MachDiamond Silver badge

            Re: "destined for recycling"

            "It's all I can do to persuade my significant other that warm bacon dripping is not soluble in water,"

            I have a septic tank so putting oils/fats down the drain has a very definable cost.

  5. Filippo Silver badge

    At some point, we'll really have to figure out how to recycle electronics down to simple chemicals.

  6. Michael Strorm Silver badge

    So, to borrow a phrase from iFixit's old 'Surface' review...

    ...they're "glue-filled monstrosities"?

  7. blu3b3rry Silver badge

    Sounds not dissimilar to the very late model Intel Macbook Pro I recently obtained for a ridiculous knockdown price (the main reason I got it, company was flogging them for £50 or so).

    Effectively no user-serviceable components inside unless you hack a special third party SSD into it and if the iFixit guide is to be believed, a battery split into multiple segments glued to the inside of the case in a way that makes it almost impossible to replace.

    I like the look of those FairPods, though - if the batteries are easily obtainable, £129 is a pretty good deal. Think I can do without the apple gimmicks like a heart rate monitor.....

    1. JPCavendish

      " Think I can do without the apple gimmicks like a heart rate monitor....."

      Can you also do without decent size and sound quality?

      Fairphone Fairbuds review - not quite there yet

  8. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Meh

    Unlike . . . ?

    I've gone through a bunch of different earbuds from Bose, Sony, and Jabra. They all have niggles and foibles (fuck Bose, Bose sucks), and I can't imagine that any of them are repairable. Ironically, the best from an overall usability perspective, have been the Jabra earbuds; the sound quality is inferior to the Sonys, but the Jabras actually stay in my ears for the most part, they're durable, and they actually have physical buttons instead of the idiotic touch interface that the high-end buds seem to implement.

    Anyway, to the original point . . . apart from the Fairbuds, which are only available in Europe, are there fixable earbuds out there?

    1. hoola Silver badge

      Re: Unlike . . . ?

      I use hearing aids and for what I need they are insanely expensive. There is no way the are actually "worth" that much in the technology but to get a half decent outcome as a musician there is no option.

      Now I bought the first pair in 2018.: Rchargeable, Bluetooth and some handy funkwizardry that the £3k was just about bearable.

      They had 4 years warranty. In 2023 I paid £198 for them to be refurbished. High you may think but not in relation to the initial purchase price.

      I have just replaced them and the new one were a bit more expensive but based on the previous experience at a hardware and tech level it is great.

      Upto 24 hours on the old ones, 36 house on the new, reducing if you stream etc.

      I believe they can be dismantled for repairs but again you need the correct equipment and knowledge. From what I could tell the refurbished ones came back in the original outsides.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Unlike . . . ?

        My in-ear monitors are wired and weren't cheap but they were fitted to my ears so they work amazingly well. If I want BT, I'd plug them into another black box rather than buy something built as one unit.

        My BT headphones got a battery upgrade last year when the original cell didn't give much listen time anymore. I was thinking of adding a parallel cell on the other side, but I haven't been able to run it flat with the bigger battery I put in so I'm not risking going any further. The over-the-ear design is also good for blocking ambient sound even without the noise cancelling active. The only thing they lack is a button for "talk thru" so I have to kick them off to talk to somebody. If that button also paused my iPod, even better.

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Unlike . . . ?

      Skullcandy Ecobuds have less ecological impact (the case doesn't have a battery, you plug it into your phone to charge the earbuds), but they don't seem any more repairable.

  9. DrXym Silver badge

    You might expect this in £20 earbuds

    But not ones costing 10x as much. Oh wait, it's Apple and they know they can do anything they like because their customers clearly have more money than sense.

    1. JPCavendish

      Re: You might expect this in £20 earbuds

      "You might expect this in £20 earbuds"

      Or practically any earbuds at any price; excepting the one or two brands that focus on repairability over things like sound quality.

      Size.

      Features/Quality.

      Repairability.

      Pick any two.

  10. MachDiamond Silver badge

    It's rent

    Divide the cost by the 12 or so months that battery will hold out and that's your monthly rent on them. The Apple ones will last longer than the knock-offs so going budget might not be worth the groats.

    For my phone, I have the Samsung headset with the bit that goes around ones neck and short leads on the ear buds. The fidelity for music isn't that great, but the battery can be replaced and taking out the ear buds leaves them attached and grabable so there isn't the possibility of putting one in a pocket and sending it through the wash.

  11. IGotOut Silver badge

    And that's why...

    ...I have wired headphones.

    No batteries, better sound quality and a lot harder to lose.

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: And that's why...

      "..I have wired headphones."

      I used to favor wired ear buds, but everything in the house that sticks out would grab the cord and yank them out. I finally got fed up and bought some full sized BT headphones. The downside is the iPod's BT directionality. The headphones will lose connection if the iPod is in my front pocket and if I have it back to front in a shirt pocket. Theoretically, I should be able to walk most of the house and be in range, but IRL, it's no more than 3 meters. Grr.

      1. IGotOut Silver badge

        Re: And that's why...

        "but everything in the house that sticks out would grab the cord"

        Protip: run the cord inside your tee, hoodie, dress, whatever. Added bonus, if you pop them out to talk to someone (because you're not a self absorbed twat*), then you can just let them dangle.

        *Two places I go will not serve anyone on their phone or wearing headphones in / over their ears.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: And that's why...

          I went wireless after ripping the wires out of several headsets because of spinny chairs.

          As a bonus, if my camera is off I can go for a walk during extended international meetings.

        2. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: And that's why...

          "Protip: run the cord inside your tee, hoodie, dress, whatever. "

          Hoodie? I'm not a criminal! AND!, it's a kilt, not a skirt. Sheesh.

          I'm too lazy to fish the wire through clothes and it's not easy to find earbuds with a lead that is just the right length. Usually it's too short and when long enough, there needs to be some extra so I can pull out the iPod to change tracks.

          The Over-The-Ear BT headphones are favorite. YMMV.

  12. Johnb89

    We want them small, droppable and waterproof

    To make something this small, this robust, this light and (I think) waterproof is hard, and a lot harder if it can be easily taken apart. Surely at some point the line is crossed where repairability isn't a priority.

    Yes, it would be nice if we could recycle and recover the valuable or dangerous bits.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Apple earpod thingies

    The single worst fitting devices for my ears ever experienced.

    There’s sound quality and comfort to consider.

    A cheap pair of wired ear buds is far superior. Albeit, no fancy stuff.

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