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A stray bullet cut through a Spectrum fiber line on Friday, knocking an undisclosed number of Texans offline. ISP Spectrum told customers in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that services were down in a post on X, which judging from the comments from customers isn't an unusual occurrence. Charter, which owns Spectrum, has confirmed …

  1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

    "Stray" bullet

    I really don't think so. These might have been drunken shots, but I would lay 10-to-1 odds that the lines were targeted. Not as a protest. More like, "hey, wouldn't it be funny if.."

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Stray" bullet

      A simpler explanation is Texan rednecks and gun nuts blast away so much ammo at random, the law of averages mean they'd have to shoot through fibre at some point. Yeehah!

      1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        Re: "Stray" bullet

        Except nope. There are a LOT of things that would be hit, on average, before fiber lines.

        Seriously, gun culture is not nearly as irresponsible as hoplophobics imagine. Even some idiot shooting at a line is only going to take the shot if he's sure that he can hit it. Hitting the cable will take enough energy out the bullet that serious harm to anyone is a lot less likely.

        And gun nuts tend to be much better shots that outsiders would guess. Bob Bullock (ex Lt Gov of Texas) used to shoot cockroaches drunk. When a drunk Davy Crocket needed three tries to shoot a candle (blow it out without hitting it), his friend asked him what was bothering him.

        1. Potemkine!

          Re: "Stray" bullet

          Seriously, gun culture is not nearly as irresponsible as hoplophobics imagine.

          16,576 deaths by firearm in the US in 2024.

          The overall number of firearm deaths in the European Union was estimated to be around 3,000.

          Very responsible indeed.

          1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

            Re: "Stray" bullet

            I'm going going to play gotcha statistics with a probable foreigner. The relevant number is "accidental death or wounding".

            1. MatthewSt

              Re: "Stray" bullet

              Really hoping I'm misunderstanding something here, because it looks like you're saying that intentionally killing someone with a gun (what us foreigners would generally refer to as "murder") is something you're classifying as "responsible".

              1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

                Re: "Stray" bullet

                If I decide to commit a crime, I'm not being irresponsible, I'm being criminal. I shouldn't have my tool (car, gun, baseball bat, kitchen knife, fist) confiscated, I should be locked up. And if we're talking attempted murder, more than just that. We generally don't allow felons to vote, own guns, hold certain jobs, or various other things for a decade after they complete their term.

    2. veti

      Re: "Stray" bullet

      More like "hey, betcha can't hit that line up there!"

      1. Ken Shabby Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: "Stray" bullet

        Hold my beer…

      2. NorthIowan

        Also likely, Hey, betcha can't hit that bird on the line up there...

        Yup, I was right.

      3. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        Re: "Stray" bullet

        Not a chance. That line is not moving, and is less than 50' away. You would have to be more than half-lit (and/or expect your buddy was) to bet against being able to hit it.

        Gun nuts really tend to be good shots. Practice matters.

    3. PhilipN Silver badge

      Re: "Stray" bullet

      Yup. Friend of mine from Kentucky reckoned the main purpose of road signs was target practice.

    4. Alan Brown Silver badge

      Re: "Stray" bullet

      Having worked in a telco and had to deal with cables blasted by shotguns, I'd say that most shooters simply like to mess things up.

      It was a major incenvitve to bury everything and that was the 1980s

  2. el_oscuro

    Boeing ships 737 fuselages by train from Wichita, Kansas to their final assembly in Seattle. And one of the QA checks they are actually serious about is finding and repairing bullet holes that the fuselages get in transit. Nothing says "Murica" more than that.

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      "Boeing ships 737 fuselages by train from Wichita, Kansas to their final assembly in Seattle."

      It's not a good thing for people to be taking shots at train cars, but it's also odd to be making something really large and shipping it a couple of thousand miles to the assembly plant. Manufacturing was set up during WWII so that there weren't lots of related manufacturing plants all in the same place and maybe this is why some big companies are still stuck in this mode. Today, it doesn't make sense. Boeing would be a big enough target that if a war broke out, they'd get some personal treatment. Being close to the Pacific Coast also makes them easier to hit without the need to traverse to the middle of the US, say, Wichita, KS. It would be easier to move engines shipped into a Pacific port to Kansas than to ship a fuselage across country the other way.

      It would also be useful if district attorneys and judges took shooting at trains a bit more seriously instead of dropping charges when somebody is caught. If the charges were left in place, it would make a sentence of a few years being Bubba's new special friend rather than 30 days in the county lockup and 80 hours of "community service".

      1. seven of five Silver badge

        Spreading your production all over the Republic buys them the goodwill of every senator. Theoretically

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Same in Europe, it's why Airbus ships aircraft parts from all over the place. Pure EU pork barrel politics.

          1. Alan Brown Silver badge

            Airbus makes parts at factories which have specialised in those parts for decades as standalone manufacturers before joining the consortium, Wings are made at the plant which does wings best, tails in a tail specialist

            Boeing's assembly lines have mostly been setup with inexperienced staff in union-hostile states and the factories of absorbed competitors generally sold off or bulldiozed along with their engineering experise

      2. sabroni Silver badge
        Meh

        Bubba's new special friend

        Ahh prison rape. Is there anything funnier?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Bubba's new special friend

          Why waste even more taxpayer cash on free board, lodging and entertainment. Just send them the bill, and cancel their welfare payments until it's been settled.

      3. cosmodrome

        Aluminium parts are usually produced where cheap energy is to be found. That is somewhere you can run your own hydroelectric plant. Manudfactoring like end assembly is usually positioned where you've got lots of space, good transportation facilities and not as many resources. These facilities aren'r just positioned willy-nilly or for strictly political reasons. Not everything is a conspiration or caused by stupidity.

        1. Alan Brown Silver badge

          If that was true, Boeing would be doing most of the work in Canada

          Aluminium may be refined from bauxite in energy-rich locatuibs, but alminium parts are made entirely elsewhere. It only takes 5% of the refining energy to melt the resulting metal

          The driving factor of where Boeing's facilities are located is union hostility on the part of the MBA management that's been in charge since the mid 1990s. Other than Washington they're almost all in "right to work" states - and it turns out that workers who are faced with overbearing line managers plus the risk of being fired at the drop of a hat simply DGAF, working accordingly

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Also if politics wasn't involved then the USAF would be flying the US variant of the A330 MRTT with full capability Vs the *still* problem ridden KC-46 Pegasus....

        2. The Organ Grinder's Monkey Bronze badge

          "conspiration?" Really? Even in American English they should surely be conspiracy?

      4. spuck

        Yeah, they obviously should be building the airplanes right at the aluminum mine...

        I would argue that with shipping as relatively cheap as it is, it makes more sense today than ever to have manufacturing spread across the country. It's not a big deal to book space on a train that's running between two cities anyway; there is so much more involved in running a business and a factory to be worried about, including workers' skillsets and housing, energy costs, etc...

    2. Alan Brown Silver badge

      it's not a new phenomenon.When parts of the Manhattan Project's bombs were transported from Tennessee to New Mexico it was decided to armour plate them just in case - and that plating arrived with multiple scars

  3. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge
    Windows

    Come on, Bubba ...

    ... stick to STOP signs.

    1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

      Re: Come on, Bubba ...

      Those are Bubba's in training. Junior Bubba's. Bubba Babies.

  4. Gary Stewart Silver badge

    Yeeee, Hawwww!. Even stupid is bigger in Texas. I know, I live there.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Everything's bigger in Texas, except whatever it is they're compensating for.

  5. Rycat

    Lucky it was the cable line

    ...and not some thousand pair POTS line that would be an absolute pain to fix.

    1. GNU Enjoyer
      Angel

      Re: Lucky it was the cable line

      It was fibre, not some shielded copper cable line (coax shielding is an absolute pain to fix too).

      Thousand pair POTS lines no longer seem to exist anymore in backbones in the USA - that amount of copper has been torn out and sold for scrap and replaced with fibre long ago.

      Current in-use copper lines are at most a few dozen pairs in the last km going to houses and if those break and are a pain to fix - those end up getting torn out and replaced with fibre (simply because then there is an unavoidable cost of having to replace the wires and wiring up what can be a single fibre line with a few terminators is cheaper than dozens of copper pairs).

      1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

        Re: Lucky it was the cable line

        In my neighborhood AT&T had a cunning plan. They stopped maintaining the lines, which need to be pressurized to keep out moister and limit crosstalk. I have a fitting for that on one of the poles in the corners of my backyard. At the beginning the line normally failed only after it rained, unfortunately it rains a lot in Texas during the spring. Eventually it just stopped working most of the time and calls to have it fixed permanently were ignored. So I finally broke down and bought a wireless phone and service, but not from AT&T. I must admit that I'm glad I went wireless mainly because it allows me to call for help when I'm mobile.

  6. Press any key
    Facepalm

    Let me guess

    The solution is more guns?

    1. seven of five Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Let me guess

      Yeah, wouldn't have happend if the cables were able to shoot back. Time for a H/K drone patrolling every fiber path.

      1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

        Re: Let me guess

        Yep, the only thing that can stop an idiot with a gun is an internet fiber line with a gun. Oh, and another idiot with a gun. Preferably simultaneously, kind of a two birds thing.

        1. MiguelC Silver badge
          Meh

          Re: Let me guess

          What you need to stop bad guys shooting at cables is armed cables that can shoot back. Of course it is. Thoughts and prayers, by the way.

          (not sure the joke icon applies)

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Let me guess

          But if the internet fiber line goes rogue, what then? For safety you also need an internet fiber line supervisor with a gun!

      2. O RLY

        Re: Let me guess

        Hunter/Killer or Heckler & Koch?

        1. seven of five Silver badge

          Re: Let me guess

          Cyberdyne A/8.

          H&K is H&K

    2. lglethal Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Let me guess

      That's right! Automated turrets on every electricity pylon. AI powered, of course. If anyone pulls a gun and starts aiming at any of the cables on the powerlines, the Turret is licensed to fire a "warning shot" in defence of said cables.

      Pylons are almost human, they stand as tall any american (well, taller actually), they have their arms out wide embracing all of America, and they work every day -rain, hail or shine, for the betterment of America. They're living the American dream! So why shouldnt they also get to bear Arms?

      1. seven of five Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Let me guess

        Oh, I have an EXCELLENT idea!

        Warp all cables in small US Flags, so shooting them is treason.

        1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

          Re: Let me guess

          But the Supine Court has ruled that you can still burn them. Although I hear that may get another look soon.

      2. Jamie Jones Silver badge

        Re: Let me guess

        Pylons need a "Citizens United II" !

      3. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: Let me guess

        > "If anyone pulls a gun and starts aiming at any of the cables on the powerlines, the Turret is licensed to fire a "warning shot" in defence of said cables."

        Couldn't it just tell them to put down the gun and say "you have twenty seconds to comply" before it blows them to smithereens?

    3. DancesWithPoultry
      Headmaster

      Re: Let me guess

      > The solution is more guns?

      Nah.

      The solution is to use good old fibre.

  7. lglethal Silver badge
    Go

    Let me correct what that Company statement SHOULD have said:

    "Our teams worked quickly to make the necessary repairs and get customers back online. We hope the idiot that shot the cable apologizes for the inconvenience."

    For once, I dont see this as a case for the firm needing to apologise...

    1. stungebag

      It looks like a pretty important asset not to have any redundancy.

      1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        This was probably next-to-the-last mile cable. Redundancy would be quite expensive.

  8. sebacoustic

    Freedom

    Surely, having some cables, schoolchildren, and podcasters taken out occasionally by irresponsible people, is a price worth paying for having the right to bear arms?

    1. Joe W Silver badge

      Re: Freedom

      I'd totally vote for a right to arm bears...

      1. FifeM

        Re: Freedom

        A military base in the UK has signs warning of "Armed Guards and Dogs". I don't know who I'd back in a shootout between dogs and bears.

    2. Gary Stewart Silver badge

      Re: Freedom

      I personally prefer bare legs (ahhg, Mongo strait), but that's just me.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: Freedom

        Better bare legs than bare bears saying "hold my beer"

  9. Zebo-the-Fat

    So, gun crazed 'mericans don't understand how to aim a gun?

    1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

      Aiming, how quaint

      Legally blind people and mentally challenged people can get a gun in the US. Aiming is optional in the first instance and negated by the ability to spray vast numbers of bullets in a short time for most other instances using the recently legalized bump stock. You could get bump stocks before that, see Las Vegas mass shooting Oct. 1 2017, the legality was just in the all encompassing gray area.

      1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Aiming, how quaint

        FTFA: "The majority of gun owners in the Land of the Free are responsible shooters who recognize it's a tool, not a toy."

        Citation (very much) required.

        1. cosmodrome

          Re: Aiming, how quaint

          I wonder very much what might be the use for a tool like a gun in urban America. Shoot the lights out? Hold the TV at bay? Repair fiber lines!

          1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

            Re: Aiming, how quaint

            As I understand it, the constitutionally intended use is defending yourself against a tyrannical government.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Aiming, how quaint

              and yet, when they get one, they are too distracted by trans people needing to pee to notice.

              1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

                Re: Aiming, how quaint

                Ever hear of the Pink Pistols? I don't have a problem with them. Nor any of my gun nut friends. Try again.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Aiming, how quaint

                  I'm sure most of the gun toting Americans on this forum don't have a problem with them either. That means nothing. Try again.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

          2. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

            Re: Aiming, how quaint

            "I wonder very much what might be the use for a tool like a gun in urban America."

            Self defense. Read Warren v District of Columbia. But not if you are easily upset.

        2. veti

          Re: Aiming, how quaint

          Proof: there are still people living in the USA [citation needed]. If "the majority of" gun owners were as you imply, there wouldn't be.

    2. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

      That might have been an instance of very good aim.

      Anecdote: Back in my power company days, a service lineman came back from a call. Seems that the fire department needed the power cut to fight a rural house fire. Not willing to wait to wait for one of our employees to make the long drive out, a police officer on scene just shot out the transformer fuse (so it was reported). The lineman dispatched envisioned shattered porcelain and other hardware. But when he arrived, he found that the cop had made a perfect shot, cutting the 1/4 inch thick fuse link in half from about 25 yards, hitting nothing else. With a handgun.

      Our lineman was surprised in part at the cop's knowing exactly what to cut.

      1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        Well, I'm pretty sure you cut the part that breaks when the fuse trips, right? I expect an officer to have worked a few of those over the years.

        Still, it's good that he kept up on his qualification.

    3. spuck

      You're assuming the cable wasn't aimed at. "Stray bullet", my eye...

  10. Christoph

    That's the cables that get randomly shot. What about the people who get randomly shot?

    1. Like a badger Silver badge

      "What about the people who get randomly shot?"

      Well, in the words of somebody who ended up putting their money where their big, bigoted mouth was:

      “It’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.”

      1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

        Look at the bright side, with all those well regulated militia members who needs the National Guard? Somehow the duties of the National Guard manage to be almost exactly what the Constitution says what the militias are/were for. See section 8 paragraph 15.

        1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          Except, only mostly. Yes, the National Guard, along with the Naval Militia are the organized militia. The unorganized militia is every able-bodied male from seventeen to forty-four. Except that the NG is also a reserve force for the regular military. Although, when I was in during Desert Storm, there were tank units that required their "reserve" NG to deploy with them as logistics support.

          Also, there was a lot of guard-exclusive work done to interdict illegal drug shipments.

          The wikipedia article implies that the State Guards would fall under congressional jurisdiction. This is false. The States retain their right to form militaries. To my understanding, three (Texas, Michigan, Washington) have. There was talk in Florida.

  11. GNU Enjoyer
    Trollface

    >Hang the fibre on poles to mitigate backhoe fade

    >Get bullet fade instead.

    The USA is now the land of the nonfree.

  12. ComicalEngineer Silver badge

    I was offered a job in Texas (Houston to be precise) some years ago. A visit to the offices and a few weeks holiday in the area convinced me to get back to the UK asap. Alabama is even worse as the usual redneck Friday night seemed to be:

    Drive to bar in nearby town.

    Drink lots of alcohol.

    Get in pickup truck.

    Drive home.

    Use rifle mounted in rear window of pickup truck to shoot at random objects such as road signs, local wildlife and postboxes.

    Hell man, it's just a bit of collateral damage.

    [/Sarcasm off]

  13. s. pam
    Trollface

    Its Dove and Quail hunting season in Texas, and now Cable hunting season

    Nothing says loving on your table like some cooked birds and a borked Internet connection!

  14. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

    Welcome to America, land of crazy wingnuts with guns. You can buy body armour at the gift shop on your way in...

  15. spacecadet66

    > The majority of gun owners in the Land of the Free are responsible shooters who recognize it's a tool, not a toy

    Speaking as an American: [citation needed]. The majority of gun owners in this country own one because it makes them feel big and strong and less afraid of the world.

    1. Adelio

      Yes, but do guns make anyone more safe?

      1. spacecadet66

        On average? No. If you have a gun in your house, you are far more likely to die by that gun than to use it to prevent violence.

  16. Winkypop Silver badge
    Stop

    Open season on comms cables, fine.

    Just lay off shooting all those school kids please!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Open season on comms cables, fine.

      The downvoter prefers kids as the target?

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Editing glitch

    "The majority of gun owners in the Land of the Free are responsible shooters who recognize it's a tool, not a toy."

    Bad copy-editing. I'm sure the writer intended:

    The majority of gun owners in the Land of the Free are irresponsible tools who recognize it's a shooter, not a toy.

  18. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    what goes up must come down

    "Sadly, antisocial Americans who don't care that what goes up must come down"

    The sort of States which seem to have the biggest problems of gun nuts nutters with guns seems to mostly intersect with the places where science is mostly seen as either magic or devils work. Which makes one wonder if they believe in "what goes up must come down".

    1. spacecadet66

      Re: what goes up must come down

      "Oh does it? Show me where it says that in the Bible."

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: what goes up must come down

        Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall?

  19. John PM Chappell

    Texas will be Texas *sigh*

    Though, tbf, this is entirely plausible in every state and even DC. However, to the "citation needed, hur hur!" crowd, the statistics are pretty plain. The majority of firearms owners, thankfully, are sane people who treat them as the tools they are, and have varying uses for them (some, few, people literally provide their food with them, for example). Unfortunately, and I say this as someone who owns firearms, in Texas, the requirements are laughable. Unless you're not white, of course.

    1. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

      Sorry, but the steady stream of "gun events" in the news from the U Ass of A demonstrates that there are an incredibly large number of irresponsible owners south of Canada.

      BTW, kindly stop paying for pro-gun ads here in Canada every time our federal government bans more American-made toys,,,

  20. Jo 5

    I lived in the US in Arkansas and its common there for telephone lines and other lines to get shot up with birdshot 12 and 20 gauge shotgun shells. Why? Often, some Cleetuses decide to remove heavy ice from these lines by shooting at them, or they shoot at birds.

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