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The UK government is stepping in with financial support for Jaguar Land Rover, providing it with a hefty loan as it continues to battle the fallout from a cyberattack. A government-backed loan to the tune of £1.5 billion ($2 billion) will be made available to the carmaker to support its recovery and the companies in its …

  1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

    I expect to see a commensurate growth in JLR's profits

    £2.5 billion profit last year, but apparently they need a loan of £1.5 billion this year.

    Socialise them costs, capitalists.

    >> our world-leading automotive sector

    Niche. The word he is looking for is niche.

    1. Fonant Silver badge

      Re: I expect to see a commensurate growth in JLR's profits

      Perhaps "once world-leading automotive sector" would be fair?

      We do still have Aston Martin, Morgan, Ariel, Briggs, Caterham, McClaren, Ginetta, Noble and Wrightbus with headquarters in the UK.

      1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

        Re: I expect to see a commensurate growth in JLR's profits

        I think it is fair to say we had/have some very notable brands. But world leading? Not so sure about that. Except for F1 cars, many of which seem to be made here.

      2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: I expect to see a commensurate growth in JLR's profits

        Most of these brands are foreign owned.

  2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Message

    Outsource your IT to the Terminally Clueless Squad, watch your systems collapse, and then cry for help? Don’t worry - Labour will ride in with £1.5bn. With this safety net, why bother building secure systems at all? The message is clear: neglect your IT, and taxpayers will pick up the tab.

    1. david bates

      Re: Message

      Sadly they didnt outsource....

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: Message

        That's a semantic game that misses the point. Here’s why it's absolutely outsourcing.

        Outsourcing is the practice of contracting a business function to an external party. Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) and Terminally Confused Squad (TCS) are separate legal and commercial entities with their own management, balance sheets, and objectives. JLR makes cars; TCS provides IT services.

        The fact they share a parent company (Tata) simply makes it outsourcing to a sister company.

        Think of it this way: If you own a restaurant and you pay your brother's separate plumbing company to fix your pipes, you've still outsourced your plumbing. You haven't done it "in-house."

        From JLR's perspective, they contracted out their IT operations to a different company. That is the definition of outsourcing.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Message

          Clearly you have never worked with Tata, JLR or TCS. It's a very close family relationship.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

    JLR is owned by Tata.

    TCS supplies IT to JLR.

    TCS is owned by Tata.

    Tata is from a country that is happy to buy oil from Russia, ask Putin for the money.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

      You forgot to mention weapons purchases.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

      Yup......interesting that almost none of the press coverage actually mentions TATA by name!!

      Wonder why???

      And none of these articles goes into any detail about WHY this hack has been so devastating.

      The Guardian is a notable exception ( providing mention of TATA and some explanation). See:

      - Link: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/20/jaguar-land-rover-hack-factories-cybersecurity-jlr

      - Quote: 'The fact that “everything is connected” in JLR’s systems appears to have become a vulnerability. When it discovered the intrusion, the carmaker was unable to isolate factories or functions, forcing it to shut down most of its systems.'

      So...................One source of the devastation caused by the hack is...........Tata Consulting deciding that "everything is connected"................Prize for this.........£1.5 billion underwritten by the UK taxpayer.

      Really????

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

        Everything you types after Tata Consulting is superfluous

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

          LOL

    3. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

      There is something which you don't understand about India. There is a strong feeling amongst Indians that Britain looted £45 trillion from India. Britain, not Russia.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

        Britain!

        Looting!

        Come on now, that’s Colonisation 101. Standard operating procedure.

        It’s the price you paid to get on the pink map.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

        And you did, but that doesn't explain why a particular company gets bailed out when it's parent could easily subsidise the loss (or cause TCS to compensate it's failure).

        1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

          Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

          Tata is in the business of collecting bailouts and/or subsidies. £500 million for the Port Talbot steelworks.

          Privately owned seems to equate with underwritten by the taxpayer.

          Will the government give me a loan if my bike is stolen? If so, why not? That's three it already owes me.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Why are we subsidising this company for it's failure ?

        Perhaps this loan guarantee is Labour's way of paying reparations without admitting to it ? Besides that was over 100 years ago, are they going to complain for the rest of eternity? By modern standards it is not right, but neither is outsourcing all our industry, skills and money. No wonder this country is in a mess.

        JLR governance is clearly lacking. TCS was just a way to offshore the profits to Tata with overpriced IT. It's just another form of transfer pricing.

        I must stop now, because I'm beginning to sound like Nigel Forage and his Orange Budha.

  4. Fonant Silver badge

    JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

    Surely the loans and support should be given to the JLR suppliers, who are suffering through no fault of their own, and not the JLR who (a) messed up and (b) are not about to go bankrupt?

    How will JLR use this money? Will they pay their suppliers to supply nothing? Will they order Just-in-Time parts in advance, when they have nowhere to store them?

    1. RSW

      Re: JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

      Spot on this should be available directly to the suppliers well beyond tier 2/3

    2. Like a badger Silver badge

      Re: JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

      It all makes sense when you see the world through the eyes of this government: A government that's chaotic and disorganised, failing on most of the important issues of the day, looking at becoming even less popular with further tax rises in a month or two, and led by a prime minister with appalling approval ratings, worse even than Liz Truss.

      But a test for you, put yourself in their shoes: Do you want to be further criticised for doing nothing as jobs disappear? Like Mr Micawber you're still hoping something will turn up to save the day in the next few years, but you can at least be seen to be doing something that might save a few Labour votes across the Midlands. Therefore you tout a huge sum of money as a loan, for the sole purposes of being seen to do something. They could offer loans to suppliers, problem is that whenever the civil service starts handing out money to multiple people it becomes a chaotic free for all, with huge sums being handed to thieves and liars without any adequate checks, and unless it's foreign aid government don't like that.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

        Bailing out JLR keeps jobs tied to an incompetent employer, but at a huge cost. It tells every company: cut corners, outsource IT offshore, neglect resilience - the taxpayer will rescue you. That doesn’t protect British workers, it strangles the domestic IT sector and locks people into bad jobs instead of creating better ones.

    3. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

      It will end up in Tata's pocket. The idea that a small engineering company on the outskirts of Liverpool will see £1 of this is ridiculous.

    4. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: JLR messed up, yet are being rewarded?

      who are suffering through no fault of their own

      They have not done their research and due diligence. If you take on a risky client (if you are outsourcing your IT to shop like TCS, the disaster is bound to happen), you demand payments upfront and ensure you are not dependent on that single client.

  5. Natalie Gritpants Jr

    The numbers do not add up for me

    An expert estimating a daily loss of £5M to £10M says the losses could total to £2B. By my reckoning, that would take 200 to 400 business days, or 1 to 2 years. Are they not going to get back up to speed for a year?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The numbers do not add up for me

      That is just the daily profit lost, not the cost of production?

      ( I don't think anyone really knows how much they make. )

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A new take on TITSUP ?

    TCS IT Sucks Up Public money.

  7. powershift

    Its not fair

    I'm not a betting man, but I'll bet you a nickle the hack could have been easily prevented if they gave a shit. If JLR didn't lose the body-on-frame design of the Defender I might have more sympathy but they do still offer Supercharged V8's that are strong and efficient.

  8. Always Right Mostly

    So British taxpayers are going to subsidize the resumption of production of cars that 99% of people anywhere can't afford and don't give a shit about?

    Slight exageration but there are car parks in the US large enough to accomoidate the entire number of vehicles produced by them.

  9. MrGreen

    Keep Those Shares Valuable

    Look at who owns the shares.

    They’re getting £1.5 billion because the elites who own all the shares are protecting their wealth with your money.

    Your tax goes straight to companies they all own shares in. It’s how they transfer your hard earned cash to their bank accounts.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    You think JLR has it bad? My current lot uses TCS and Fujitsu.

    (anonymous in case head honcho reads this)

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