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In the high-stress and safety-critical world of air traffic control, "don't fall asleep" probably comes pretty far toward the top of the rule book, and yet that's apparently the reason for the landing delay of an Air Corsica Airbus A320 this week. The French jet departed from Paris Orly late on September 15 and was scheduled …

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  2. Dinanziame Silver badge
    Joke

    That tracks

    In the words of Asterix in Corsica:

    "I've got a job for you"

    "Not only you're a renegade, but you're even rude"

    https://x.com/MathildeR0BERT/status/1242389136478294016

    1. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: That tracks

      I guess he picked the wrong week to give up amphetamines

      1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        WTF?

        Re: That tracks

        Airplane! Unplugging the Lights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdZHR75iCM&t=1s

    2. Tom Chiverton 1
      WTF?

      Re: That tracks

      Missing something.

      He was asleep ? At the desk ? Didn't the phone wake him up ? If it didn't ring, why not ? If it did, why not ?

      1. MyffyW Silver badge

        Re: That tracks

        "She was a girl who for a ringing phone dropped exactly nothing"

        ...not that I aspire to be a member of the Glass family, but the ability to sleep through the myriad distractions of the 21st century is commendable. Unless you're an ATC.

      2. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

        Re: That tracks

        Long ago - a coworker security guard in a residential was a full time foreign student at Northeastern University in Boston, while also working 2 full time jobs. His schedule left him zero time for sleeping. It was not exactly a miracle - he was in a continuous heightened mental state of being 1/3 asleep, sort of. But then one night the fire alarms went off in the building, woke up all the residents, and brought the fire department. Fortunately it was a false alarm. But the Fire Dept needed to get into the office to turn off the fire alarm, and he was asleep in the office and had locked the door from the inside ...

    3. WanderingHaggis

      Re: That tracks

      Bad translation gros mots swear words Not only ... ...you use swear words. The siesta is sacred

  3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Megaphone

    "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

    On the other side of the pond, it was ATC who were trying to raise a flight deck crew...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4jndzj9wjo

    "Pay attention. Spirit 1300 traffic off your left wing by six mi— or eight miles, 747. I'm sure you can see who it is. ... Keep an eye out for him — he's white and blue"

    Trump was enroute to hob nobbing with royalty.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

      > he's white and blue

      Not orange?

      1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

        Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

        Beat me to it, you rat!

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

        Not gold-plated?

        1. DS999 Silver badge

          Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

          I wouldn't be surprised if he wants his new used plane from the UAE painted gold and if anyone says "where's the red white and blue" he'll autopen an executive order that the US flag is now a gold background with his face on it.

      3. Paul Herber Silver badge

        Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

        Would he fly Easyjet?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

          Don't see why he wouldn't.....he's a good fit with 'sleazy-jet'..

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

      The report has some interesting non-Euclidean geometry:

      "the two planes were flying parallel to each other 8 miles apart, and were on paths on which they could have converged 11 miles apart,"

      1. Paul Herber Silver badge
        Headmaster

        Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

        Spherical geometry.

        Oblate-spheroidal geometry.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

          Having spent decades living on an oblate spheroid I've never found anything 11 miles apart to have converged.

          1. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

            Your more than 11 miles from the nearest pub? My condolences!

            Yes, I know that's not what you said. It's Friday! I have only one thing on my mind ->

      2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

        Re: "Pay attention. Get off the iPad"

        The article in The Telegraph has a 757, and not a 747 as a background to the audio clip - ignoring that (may be that image was selected by AI), there is a map showing the planned and actual routes of the two aircraft. Looks like after Spirit 1300 changed course, they were running parallel with a separation of about 10 miles...

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/17/pilots-told-get-off-ipad-steer-away-air-force-one-immediate/

        Note: some parts of The Telegraph site are behind a paywall/may be geo-fenced.

  4. PeterM42
    Flame

    Tsk! Tsk!

    There should ALWAYS be more than one person on duty in ATC.

    1. Gene Cash Silver badge

      Re: Tsk! Tsk!

      Perhaps if you read the article:

      "a long history of strikes, citing exhaustion and stressful shifts brought on by too few staff."

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Tsk! Tsk!

        To be fair, the ATC employee had been asked by his superior "I need you to tell me your nationality, and whether you can do this shift alone."

        "Corsican!"

      2. TheTut
        Big Brother

        Re: Tsk! Tsk!

        In other words: French.

  5. beast666 Silver badge

    Shoulda just put the jet into reverse.

    1. MyffyW Silver badge

      I believe Lauda air did that once, on one engine only. It didn't end well.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        How else do you do a handbrake turn in the air ?

  6. smudge

    Remember that old song of ours?

    Long in tooth British heavy metal band Saxon have just had an idea for updating one of their classics.

    "We've got a Airbus coming down in the night

    There's no power, there's no runway lights

    Radio operator, try to get a message through

    Tell the flight deck La Corse has no lights

    There's no power, what do we do?

    Airbus coming down in the night

    Try to get a message through"

    https://genius.com/Saxon-747-strangers-in-the-night-lyrics

    1. Stevie Silver badge

      Re: Remember that old song of ours?

      “Look out the left” the captain said

      “The lights down th - WHERE ARE THE <bleep>ing LIGHTS?”

      “<bleep>! <bleep>! WE ARE <bleep>ing DOOMED!”

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Remember that old song of ours?

        Thank you for the earworm.

        1. vogon00

          Re: Remember that old song of ours?

          Nothing to do with IT or ATC, this...

          One remembers Saxon, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden etc. and still listen when time and company permits. Still have the long chain on the keys and wallet. Still wear denim occasionally. Ditched the leather..mistake?

          The intro to that Nazareth track gave me a different earworm. Best version of that song I've come across so far...

          Just sayin'

          1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
            Happy

            Re: Remember that old song of ours?

            Nothing to do with IT or ATC, this...

            One remembers Saxon, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden etc.

            Bruce Dickinson piloted Iron Maiden's chartered aircraft during some tours, so, a somewhat weak link to ATC and Iron Maiden...

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Dickinson

      2. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Remember that old song of ours?

        Ah yes, *that* Nazareth song. With the memorable line

        "up go the flaps, down go the wheels"

        To which I always mentally replace the next line with

        "Hope you can keep this jet above stall speed on landing, baby"

  7. Chloe Cresswell Silver badge

    Strikes

    I am thinking of Dave Gunson's recorded speech.. when The french went on strike on a friday, everyone else spent the weekend working around them.. and on Monday they accepted aircraft in...

    "You're back!"

    "Yes, we came back to work Saturday, it's been a very quiet weekend"

    1. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: Strikes

      For the uninitiated this is a great listen: One of Dave Gunson's after dinner speeches I believe

  8. Joe Gurman Silver badge

    I'm certain....

    ....that the liter of wine with dinner had nothing to do with it.

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: I'm certain....

      ... and I'm certain you miss-spelled litre.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Deadlines

    I recall a flight out of Spain from a regional airport. It was the last flight and some elderly holiday makers were fussing about where they sit and where their luggage went. The pilot came out of the cabin and addressed the passengers; "we have 10 minutes until they close this airport and if you don't sit down and strap in, you'll be sleeping on this aircraft, trust me this is Spain and they WILL turn the lights off in 10 mins".

    Conversely, I also recall working late in Ireland and explaining to the customer that I had to catch a flight. He said don't worry I'll call the airport and have your flight delayed, my brother in law runs the place. I don't know what they told the other passengers but when I arrived I got a lot of angry stares.

  10. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

    One solution?

    I've never flown a plane in my life but I've done enough travelling to small remote airports to know one implemented solution.

    Small airports and landing strips are each allocated their own traffic frequency which, in the absence of a controller, no-one but the pilots and an automatic circuit monitor. If you want to land at Woop Woop you tune to the frequency and any pilots working the airfield essentially do their own ATC.

    If it's night and the lights are off, transmitting three dots of carrier signal (Morse 'S') causes the circuit to activate the landing lights for fifteen or so minutes.

    1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: One solution?

      Ajaccio's hardly remote. It's a small city, and the airport handles 1.5m passengers a year.

    2. Richard 12 Silver badge

      Re: One solution?

      A320s don't go to landing strips that tiny - at least, not with passengers on board.

      This was a scheduled flight, yes it's running late but ATC knew that already so there's no excuse whatsoever.

      There's also no excuse whatsoever for there only being one ATC on duty, so that's two people needing to be sanctioned.

      I'm looking forward to reading the official report

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: One solution?

        If it blames any French employee it will be buried on release in France, just as they did with the report on AF447.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: One solution?

      Another solution Flaming Toilet Rolls Light Up Remote Airstrip but burning bidets probably wouldn't fly. ;)

  11. Blackjack Silver badge

    Maybe more people and less working hours would help.

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