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The GNOME Foundation is once again hunting for a new boss after executive director Steven Deobald departed less than four months into the role, a move the board described as mutual. gnome GNOME Foundation's new executive director is Canadian, a techie, and a GNOME user READ MORE Deobald was handed the reins in May from …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Trollface

    "so I can meditate a 10-Day 'self course' "

    Does that course include not touching the wrong butts ?

  2. heyrick Silver badge

    Huh?

    "Holly Million, who practiced an unusual religion"

    Unless she sacrificed children, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? A lot of people believe a lot of superstition.

    Criteria ought to be: Does she understand the technology? Does she understand the problems developers are facing? Does she have viable ideas for how to improve things and maybe score some extra funding?

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Huh?

      It looks like some people are just brain dead ignorant knuckle draggers, who can't comprehend a lifestyle that may be different to theirs.

      From the linked article.

      "....such as that of industry commentator Bryan Lunduke. He seems unable to handle GNOME hiring a "Professional Shaman" as new Executive Director."

    2. JoeCool Silver badge

      Re: Huh?

      It's not a technical position. Her job is/was corporate funding, gladhanding and promotion.

      That mention of her religion seems like a non-sequitur rather than hinting at something related to her job oerformance.

    3. bombastic bob Silver badge
      IT Angle

      Re: Huh?

      It's a running joke to always sacrifice a chicken or two (and do the appropriate dance steps) before making the newest release "go live"...

      [hey you can't take a chance, you've GOT to do it EVERY TIME!]

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Very gnomic

    Yet another one (in fact, more than one, I didn't even know that there had been yet another person briefly holding the hot potato!)?

    Gnome seems to be competing with Mozilla for inept management…

    Maybe if Gnome development focused rather more on enhancements, rather than dehancements, things would be much better, but sadly Gnome nowadays seems to be on an unstoppable path towards disappearing up its own fundament.

    I really rather liked Gnome 2, I found some of the features of Gnome 3 to be good innovations (the use of the <super> key; the window preview overview screen), but ever since then, it has just got worse (the utterly stupid enshittified hamburgerification of menus in place of the long-time very well tried and tested traditional (and reasonably standardised) WIMP menu style (where you can immediately see/tell which menu you want to look in to perform an action); the savage cuts to titlebars - leaving virtually nowhere to grab and move windows without accidentally triggering some sort of unexpected action; the possibly even more backwards abolition of useful themes, leaving you with only rather eye-searing grey-white or a black so black (not even a more attractive dark grey "nordic" style) that it's virtually impossible (and therefore a major accessibility problem) to tell active and inactive windows, and borders and toolbars apart). «sigh»

    1. Ian Johnston Silver badge

      Re: Very gnomic

      I particularly enjoy Gnome applications with two hamburger menus side by side which do different things. Either someone thought that was a good idea or someone just likes fucking with their users.

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Linux

        Re: Very gnomic

        That's a bit like getting a Big Mac at McDonald's, or a Double Whopper at Burger King

      2. LionelB Silver badge

        Re: Very gnomic

        Can I supersize you, sir?

      3. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: Very gnomic

        /ME enjoying the snark

    2. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Very gnomic

      ACK - and what has been done since after GTK3 is even WORSE and it affects both Mate and Cinnamon when they do it.

      ADWAITA needs to DIE to DEATH, being BURNED with FLAMES of FIRE!

  4. Lee D Silver badge

    "Mutual"

    "Mutual" = we wanted rid of them and they wanted out.

    Otherwise you'd get the "we're sorry to see them go" speech.

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: "Mutual"

      That's one interpretation, but the other common one is that one side wanted to get rid of the other side and the other side didn't want to explain it. That includes both "we wanted rid of them and they didn't want us to talk badly of them" and "they wanted out and we didn't want them telling others how crap they think we were". It doesn't actually have to be mutual as long as the two parties decided that was an easier story than going into detail.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "Mutual"

        Indeed. A variation on the theme is "we wanted them gone, we also didn't want them to sue us".

        Whatever the case, it often boils down to PR-related moves, but I don't see a lot of good press, marketing etc. to salvage at this point. No one buys the "mutual" story from any situation like this (hence this thread), at best they end up looking inept again.

        Since many folks have come to expect bumbling from Gnome, perhaps they reckoned the alternative was worse. [shrug]

  5. BasicReality Bronze badge

    Maybe they can find someone who can lead them to designing a decent desktop system?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      If history is any indicator they'll bring on someone from KDE and make things even worse.

  6. TrevorH

    I'd apply for the job but I'd want to throw out everything done since gnome 2 and start over with something that actually works for human beings.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Was good but now just ok

    Only the enthusiasts know whats going on in the complex world of linux.

    All I know is I installed Linux mint on a PC several years ago and it sure dont work like that anymore with all the subsequent releases. Sort of a win7 to win10+ trajector.

    Calendar that used to pop up your reminder just doesnt do it now. No matter what I do. I guess when somethings free and supported by a hard working but unrewarded community someone could take the big bux to screw it all up or yank their bit of code.

    1. LionelB Silver badge

      Re: Was good but now just ok

      Depends on the DE maybe? You don't say which one, but Mint/Xfce doesn't seem to me to have changed drastically over the past few years.

  8. Taliesinawen Bronze badge

    Steven is not the right fit ..

    Gnome: “We are extremely grateful to Steven for all this and more. Despite these many positive achievements, Steven and the board have come to the conclusion that Steven is not the right fit for the Executive Director role at this time. We are therefore bidding Steven a fond farewell.”

    An odd use of the phrase “not the right fit” considering the Gnome foundation is committed to diversity and inclusion. I figure everyone is inclusive only some people are more inclusive than others /s

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: Steven is not the right fit ..

      It's a commonly used phrase for any reason why someone isn't doing something. I've used it, for example when turning down a job someone suggested. I think they would interpret "I'm not the right fit for this" a little more kindly than "That sounds terrible. Good luck finding someone willing to endure that". I don't think it's related to diversity or related characteristics.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Haven't GNOME consistently demonstrated they couldn't give a sh*t about what the community thinks or wants?

    1. Ian Johnston Silver badge

      The "GNOME community" is the Gnome developers. Why would they care about anyone else? After all, if you don't like something you are free to rewrite it.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        This "rewrite if you don't like it" is tired old retarded dogshit that Microsoft would be proud of.

      2. BasicReality Bronze badge

        System76 is taking them up on that offer.

      3. keithpeter Silver badge
        Trollface

        "Why would they care about anyone else?"

        IBM/Red Hat having customers might be a factor possibly?

      4. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Unhappy

        Gnome devs caring about anyone else? Like the USERS? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

        snark appreciated.

        Gnome Devs have only cared about their tiny little bubble world since Gnome 3.

  10. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Jedi

    Holly Million, who practiced an unusual religion, left the position in July 2024 after nine months

    A difficult position to fill - they need a Jedi - they can begin their quest here...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Pirate

      Re: Jedi

      I'd do it, but I'd carry a LARGE AXE [and I doubt they'd have me].

      ADWAITA is the first item for the chopping block, especially those GREY ROUNDED RECTANGLES for the scroll bar, Default theme goes BACK to "Traditional OK" and GREY FLATSO ICONS go STRAIGHT to HELL, to be replaced with colorful 3D Skeuomorphic and/or 'shadowed' versions. "box shadow" is easy to put into CSS after all...

      "Make Gnome USABLE Again" - and based on his early comments on Gnome3. LINUS would LOVE IT!

      [to HELL with the "google chrome" look and the "Windows 10" look]

  11. druck Silver badge

    Which community?

    The intent is for a "community-based executive" to take over

    Which community? I suspect they don't mean the community of users who are have to put up with the appalling design choices, but rather the community of developers who are determined to carry on doing their own thing despite the users.

  12. MaChatma CoatGPT 2.0
    Coat

    The GNOME user mantra

    I decided to peruse Ms Million's personal site as she sounds interesting. She says she wanted to know "What is all of this? Why am I here? How does this all work?". I believe that many GNOME users chant the very same mantra when they switch on their system each morning.

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: The GNOME user mantra

      why not - it worked so well for the Beatles when they went through their "guru" experience...

      (see icon)

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