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VMware has tweaked its software licensing so submarines can keep their computers running when they’re beneath the waves. The new type of licenses became necessary once VMware moved to subscriptions, which come with a requirement for customers to operate in either “connected mode” that sees their systems generate a licensing …

  1. EricM Silver badge

    I honestly question the strategic dependency management capabilities of companies still planning in 2025 to increase their exposure to Broadcom solutions and licensing risks.

    How do they plan to manage/mitigate that risk Broadcom poses?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      And the big 4 cloud providers are any better than broadcom?

      1. SVD_NL Silver badge

        Not necessarily, but those aren't really a direct competitor here. I'd definitely argue direct competitors such as Nutanix pose less risk, or even open-source proxmox which eliminates risks associated with licensing (almost) completely.

  2. Wexford

    I just came here to offer my applause for the article's title.

    1. stiine Silver badge
      Happy

      Did you read it with the correct rythm the first time? Or did it take two times, like it did for me?

    2. MonkeyJuice Silver badge

      The soundtrack for the next Matrix movie is shaping up to be pretty cool.

      1. steelpillow Silver badge

        "So, do you want to take the Yellow Submarine pill, or the Blue Meanie pill?"

        1. The Dark Side Of The Mind (TDSOTM)
          Windows

          The smiling figure of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds might work too.

  3. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

    Post Armageddon worries

    Is the software set to refuse service and show a prompt after the expiry date passes?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    WW3 postponed ...

    ERROR (Fatal) - [Missile launch system unavailable: licence expired] Contact your authorised VMWare reseller to renew.

    The way things are going the strategic nuclear arsenal will be corporatised and subscription only licensing on a per warhead basis (priced per megaton) so your MIRV will require a handful and a separate multi-warhead licence.

    1. Jonathan Richards 1 Silver badge

      Re: WW3 postponed ...

      ERROR (happily Non-Fatal) - ...

      Happily, there are very few software errors that are genuinely fatal. I remember having to talk an elderly relative down when her Windows box announced a "fatal" error to her, some time in the early 2000's.

    2. Not Yb Silver badge

      Re: WW3 postponed ...

      That would be the Oracle license scheme, VMWare is relatively sane by comparison.

    3. Apocalypso - a cheery end to the world Bronze badge
      Mushroom

      Re: WW3 postponed ...

      > The way things are going the strategic nuclear arsenal will be corporatised and subscription only licensing on a per warhead basis (priced per megaton) so your MIRV will require a handful and a separate multi-warhead licence.

      You missed out the "licence both ways option": a charge for the warhead and a separate charge to be allowed to hit your target.

  5. GNU Enjoyer
    FAIL

    If there is any codepath that sabotagues the software

    Such codepath *will* get triggered at the worst possible time.

    If it's important that something works and keeps working, it's highly important that you use free software - free of proprietary sabotage.

  6. Taliesinawen Bronze badge

    Virtual missile launch systems :o

    “HMS Artful, the UK’s most advanced nuclear submarine, which is due to begin sea trials in August 2016, has been kitted out with a mini VMware virtualised data centre to control its ‘Common Combat System’, for missile launch.”

    Have they any idea just how unstable this configuration is - at the best of times. Remeber what happened to the USS Yorktown.

    1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge

      Re: Virtual missile launch systems :o

      Hmmm...maybe there's some necessary application that is no longer supported which needs to be run in a VM rather than whatever native OS is being used? I would not wish to be the person responsible for maintaining that sort of operation...years to get authorisation to buy something which by that time is no longer available, while the expected life of the hardware is tens of years, at the minimum.

      I've had enough questions from our machine shop folks about whether the x86 systems that control their decades old (but still fully functional) CNC mills can be propped up to avaoid having to spend $00k for new kit.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Virtual missile launch systems :o

        Anon for obvious reasons ...

        These systems are ... complex, very complex. A modern submarine is a floating data centre these days, with all that entails - except the wide aisles, and easy access to equipment !

        There are many reasons for running virtualised environments - mostly the same as people use them for on dry land. The main one being that it makes upgrades and recovery a lot easier - instead of rebuilding a bare metal server, you just nuke the VM image and copy a new image from the maintainer's kit.

        One of our biggest headaches now is managing licences - even some fo the kit (such as switches) now require licences for some functions, and these can be perpetual (good), or need renewing every so often. And as for the timescales involved, I direct you to reports of a 204 day patrol. It could be "interesting" when the browser vendors implement their "won't accept certificates longer than 30 days" policy.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I wouldn't trust VMWare to track when I take a dump let alone have it running critical systems on nuclear submarines! Jeez, that's bloody scary that VMWare is allowed anywhere near defence capabilities, other than maybe tracking what's being sold in the nearest NAAFI store!

  8. MickeyLane

    Tanks? Seriously?

    I haven't used VMware in a dozen years or so and I don't know squat about tanks other than they go BOOM every once in a while so the mention of virtual machines in tanks is quite a surprise.

  9. ABugNamedJune

    This comment isn't really related to the article, but I hate the current licensing model of basically every piece of proprietary software. When setting up my own infrastructure for non-critical applications, I want to be able to set it and forget it, not have to remember to upload new licensing info twice a year. I miss when you could buy a piece of software and it was yours.

    1. Tron Silver badge

      Seconded.

      Maybe El Reg could do a round-up of software options that you can simply install and forget about. Stuff that doesn't phone home or need any form of nannying.

  10. Gnisho

    I have difficulty with the idea that software which may reduce or disable functionality dependent on outside data comms should ever be allowed to be used in this kind of a military context.

    It is complete and utter madness to allow this kind of dependency to creep in to critical operations roles of any sort.

    1. MonkeyJuice Silver badge

      Welcome to the dizzyingly exciting world of military procurement. Boy are you in for some fun.

      1. Gnisho

        Oh, I am more than aware and had some interesting conversations about that when some of such was my personal responsibility. Cannot imagine it's gotten any less stupid since then.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          You may very well think that. Those of us still in the game couldn't possibly comment.

    2. ecofeco Silver badge

      On come now. I'm pretty sure this will end well.

      /s in case not obvious to others.

  11. The Dark Side Of The Mind (TDSOTM)
    Mushroom

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Icon for clarity.

    I recall a time when military used to develop their own solutions, highly redundant and as safe as possible for human designed stuff... many of those solutions found their use in business and public use.

    FOSS was, and it still is, a huge reservoir of innovation and ingenuity that can be easily taped and used, with contributions eventualy finding their way out of military purpose.

    Subscription licensing should be allowed only for business or private use, where the landscape is more dynamic than in military and where there are less time based constraints.

    I'll take my lead padded coat, helmet and respirator.

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