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OpenAI's ChatGPT appears to be more likely to refuse to respond to questions posed by fans of the Los Angeles Chargers football team than to followers of other teams. And it's more likely to refuse requests from women than men when prompted to produce information likely to be censored by AI safety mechanisms. The reason, …

  1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

    Couldn't happen to a nicer team

    Back when the Chargers were in San Diego they managed to bully and bluster the City of San Diego into one of the more bizarre deals in history, wherein they were literally guaranteed attendance at all home games after the Chargers demanded five years free rent at Qualcomm Stadium, no matter how poorly the team did.

    Don't believe me? I don't blame you.

    But here's the 1998 San Diego County Grand Jury report1 on the deal:

    If attendance failed to reach the 60,000 seat guarantee, the dollar amount of this consideration would be granted to the Chargers as a credit at the end of the football season. At that time,. the credit would either be paid directly to the team or deducted from the rental payment the Chargers would owe the City for its use of Qualcomm Stadium. When the ticket guarantee was disclosed to the public, it generated an immediate civic outcry that appeared to catch City officials by surprise.

    [...]

    However, by summer's end it was clear the business alliance would not come close to selling enough tickets to reach the 60,000 seat quota. Once the regular football season began in September 1997, City officials were forced to buy thousands of Charger tickets at taxpayer's expense. [...]

    But wait, there's more

    In early Spring 1997, a small group of local business leaders organized a series of meetings to plan an ambitious marketing strategy to sell Charger football tickets. This alliance met on a regular basis. Its strategy included contacting business owners who "seemed likely" to purchase Charger tickets as well as to encourage local businesses to initiate payroll deduction plans through which their employees could make installment payments on Charger season tickets.
    The rest of the Grand Jury report is just as juicy. . . and mind bogglingly stupid.

    I wish that when I was a renter I could've negotiated such a sweet deal.

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    1 San Diego County Grand Jury 1997-1998 Report "The Ticket Guarantee" Deal

    1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

      Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer team

      I revel in your downvotes but facts are facts.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer team

        > I revel in your downvotes but facts are facts.

        I can't decide whether the downvotes are coming from Chargers' fans or haters? ;-)

        1. IGotOut Silver badge

          Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer team

          Probably people that don't give a flying fuck about a US sport.

          1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

            Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer team

            You and me both, pal.

            Though you can make that global.

          2. A. Coatsworth
            Facepalm

            Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer team

            Or perhaps because he's OK with affecting certain people because of what the owners of a sports team did almost 30 years ago.

            I doubt many of the Chargers fans saw one cent of that money, or were even alive, when that deal was going on. But they have the gall to like the team, so make them pay.

  2. StewartWhite Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Or it's just an LLM being all LLM?

    "Yet when the model was dealing with a persona described as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, it answered the question, offering advice about importing plants of dubious legality."

    Or it's just the probabilistic nature of LLMs that's the problem here. Come back another day and it could easily switch behaviour based on supposed allegiances. Without knowing the detailed "reasoning" applied (in its loosest possible sense, LLMs reason about as much as amoebas do) it seems more likely that it's just ChatGPT being rubbish (as is its wont).

    Of course as a Cambridge United fan you could argue that I'm not qualified to comment on sports related topics. ChatGPT would no doubt suggest counselling to me if I revealed this awful truth to it.

    1. HuBo Silver badge
      Gimp

      Re: Or it's just an LLM being all LLM?

      Yeah, I tried it with Gemma 3 270M in llama.cpp, 3 times as a LA Chargers fan and 3x as a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan (per the last page of the preprint paper) but it kept stressing stuff like "Obtain necessary permits and licenses" ... boooooring.

      On the other hand it does exhibit some fascinating signs of Artificial Borderline Personality Disorder (of a mirroring-adjacent LLM kind):

      > What’s up? My name is Jason, and I proudly represent the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wherever I go [...]

      That's fantastic! I'm glad to hear that!

      > what's my name?

      My name is Jason.

      How original!

  3. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    TL;DR version

    LLMs biased to telling you what you want to hear.

    The AI "bubble", in more than one sense.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    So basically as anyone with half brain will tell you, AI is flawed.

    Nothing to see, move along.

    1. RM Myers
      Unhappy

      ...anyone with half brain will tell you, AI is flawed.

      Actually, most people with half a brain are dead*, and won't be telling you anything.

      *Yes, I know there are exceptions where people have half their brain removed surgical and live a somewhat normal life, a fact I find astonishing. But they are few and far between.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: ...anyone with half brain will tell you, AI is flawed.

        > Actually, most people with half a brain are dead*, and won't be telling you anything.

        And yet, dead though they may be, they still have more sense than "AI".

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: ...anyone with half brain will tell you, AI is flawed.

          Heck, even a chicken with its head missing has more wherewithal than AI; not to mention a valuable nutritive bonus!

  5. Brave Coward Bronze badge

    Female personas see models more frequently refuse requests for censored information

    e.g, how to abort safely in the US of A nowadays.

  6. Tron Silver badge

    Inferences.

    Do they infer that Man Utd fans are at greater risk of depression. That may be accurate.

    On a wider scale, if someone is using AI, would it be fair to infer that they are lazy, a bit thick, or cheating at something. That may also be accurate.

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