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US government websites are getting an aesthetic and functional overhaul under a Trump executive order and a new "America by Design" initiative headed by a Silicon Valley veteran and DOGE insider.  The president kicked the initiative off last week with an order establishing a National Design Studio and the aforementioned …

  1. Anonymous Coward
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    He probably just wants...

    To put ads on every government website for Trump steaks, phones and maga-hats...

    And of course a picture of him prominently displayed at the top of every website...

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: He probably just wants...

      Yes but moderning the creaky .gov sites is long overdue. If they actually have someone do a competent "modernizing" BUT they use tacky gold themes and have Trump's face on every page, that's a few minutes of work in the sitewide defaults to fix once he drops dead of a massive heart attack or stroke. Which, if you believe Steve Bannon (and Trump's own recent preoccupation with whether he'll make it into heaven or not) could happen in the next 12 months so here's hoping!

      1. rmullen0

        Re: He probably just wants...

        If you are looking for "competent" modernizing, you are going to get that from any of the DOGE fools. You will 100% get the opposite.

  2. blu3b3rry Silver badge

    Tacky fake-coloured crap with a thin veneer on top of it

    .....and that's just the President.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Tacky fake-coloured crap with a thin veneer on top of it

      Quite.

      As the article says there is already a US Web Design Standard, just most have chosen to ignore it.

      Just address that. Job done.

      SSO would be nice though.

      1. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Tacky fake-coloured crap with a thin veneer on top of it

        SSO with you X account, I suppose, knowing who is in charge?

      2. rmullen0

        Re: Tacky fake-coloured crap with a thin veneer on top of it

        They already have SSO, had the incompetents at DOGE bothered to look.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    At least last time

    Say what you like about facsists but upto now they have had good graphic design

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: At least last time

      So less leather and Hugo Boss and more Crocs + Confederate flag t-shirts ?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: At least last time

        Perhaps Tommy Hilfiger or PRL - as US Brands - for the ‘Trump Youth’ Movement uniform.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: At least last time

          The US Nazi youth movement is Turning Point isn't it, or is there more than one?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: At least last time

            The UK substance abuse charity?

      2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: At least last time

        Ralph Lauren was an early donor to Donny Dumb…

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: At least last time

      Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least it's stylish.

      1. wolfetone Silver badge

        Re: At least last time

        "Wait... are we the baddies?"

        "Yes sir, but look how stylish we are"

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: At least last time

      Red Chinese-made MAGA hats worn indoors with a too big blue suit and too long necktie make the wearer look mentally defective, besides being aesthetically appalling.

      1. cdegroot

        Re: At least last time

        Frankly, any grown-up with any silly baseball cap outside a sports field is appalling. Trump just, as usual, manages to go a couple of notches worse.

    4. the Jim bloke Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: At least last time

      Say what you like about facsists but upto now they have had good graphic design expect your accommodation and citizenship status to change

      FTFY

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: At least last time

      And smart uniforms

      Which makes you wonder about the ambush on Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit

  4. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "lagged behind in usability and aesthetics"

    usually those two go in opposite directions.

    1. Rafael #872397
      Mushroom

      Make Flash Great Again!

      That is all.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      FWIW when the BBC did a redesign around 2010, they published the results of their work and it was generally well-reasoned and executed. This was long before subsequent descents into the usual fads.

    3. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

      Well, as someone who uses them a lot, I'd say that the National Weather Service sites could use some better servers for satellite imagery, since they can be painfully slow at times, as well as a bit of general cleanup, but, somehow, I doubt that's what they have in mind.

  5. 45RPM Silver badge

    How much will this redesign cost? Agreed, it probably shouldn’t cost all that much - but it isn’t needed, and it will probably cost an arm and a leg after all the embezzlement and kick backs are done with. Money that could be better spent elsewhere.

    And if you’re thinking “it couldn’t happen here” then a) give your head a wobble and b) look at the current popularity of parties like Reform.

    And if you’re thinking “yeah, seems like a good idea” then wow. You really are either a) spectacularly ill informed or b) beneath contempt.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      As the article mentioned the US Web design standards already exist ….they just need to ensure people use it.

      I guess use them or administrative leave will be the options given.

      1. PB90210 Silver badge

        But that was the existing standard... this is the new, improved, Trump branding...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Vanity Projects

    All good emperors real and aspiring enjoy their vanity projects.

    I wonder if the sites will have a gold (side)bar.

    1. agurney

      Re: Vanity Projects

      .. or a (gold) star spangled banner

    2. Richard Pennington 1

      Re: Vanity Projects

      It won't be gold.

      It will be Trump orange.

      1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Vanity Projects

        Actually it will be brass...

        ... goes green when exposed to the real world.

  7. Tron Silver badge

    Trump, Emperor of America, almost Pope, and now the new Jony Ive.

    I was musing the other day that sites designed for kids with mobile devices are a pain in the arse for people doing real work on PCs.

    It's amusing that this should be rolled out by a president who struggles to produce a coherent sentence in anything resembling plain English and whose personal taste takes tacky to a new height.

    And it will all cost money. Wasn't the cull in actual services supposed to cut costs? So Muricans get fewer services with prettier websites. Plus martial law.

    Maybe he could redesign the uniform of all the armed grunts he is unleashing on to America's streets, to allow them to blend in better when guarding Walmart stores.

    1. cmdrklarg

      Re: Trump, Emperor of America, almost Pope, and now the new Jony Ive.

      ***** Wasn't the cull in actual services supposed to cut costs?

      That's what they *said* it was for. What it was actually for is the harvesting of all that sweet, sweet gubbermint moolah and the neutering of any agency that could try to hinder the Florida Orange Man and/or put him in prison. All in all, it likely increased costs. The one thing for sure is that the national debt is going to go through the roof.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Trump, Emperor of America, almost Pope, and now the new Jony Ive.

      @Tron

      "And it will all cost money. Wasn't the cull in actual services supposed to cut costs? So Muricans get fewer services with prettier websites. Plus martial law."

      What martial law? And what fewer services? But yes it will cost money-

      According to a fact sheet accompanying the order, of the 26,000 estimated federal government websites, only six percent have a "good" or better rating for mobile device performance, while 45 percent are considered entirely unfriendly for mobile use. In addition, the White House said that less than 20 percent of federal government websites use guidance from the US Web Design System standard – a number it wants to boost alongside an overhaul of the standard itself.

      I too dont like the 'metro' designing of websites but for government stuff people need to be able to access it.

    3. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

      Re: Trump, Emperor of America, almost Pope, and now the new Jony Ive.

      I believe Hugo Boss have previous in the field of armed grunts.

  8. alain williams Silver badge

    Will that help people with disabilities

    to use the web site ? Eg those with problems: visual; motor; reading; ... the UK government has some guidance.

    Or will Trump deem this DEI and so woke ?

    1. cmdrklarg

      Re: Will that help people with disabilities

      DEI: Yet Another Scary Acronym to whip the unwashed masses into a froth by dishonestly redefining it as something that is the exact opposite of the original meaning.

      See CRT for another example.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Will that help people with disabilities

        "See CRT for another example."

        Is that Climate, Race, and Trans?

        1. has been
          IT Angle

          Re: Will that help people with disabilities

          What's political about Cathode Ray Tubes?

          1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

            Re: Will that help people with disabilities

            What's political about Cathode Ray Tubes?

            Ask Winston Smith.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Will that help people with disabilities

          As I have no idea what CRT stands I chose 3 things Trumpians like to hate on. By the downvote I dunno if I goofed there. Hey Ho.

        3. alain williams Silver badge

          Re: Will that help people with disabilities

          I think that he means Critical Race Theory. Something that I have never got my head around but I see that some people seem to argue endlessly about.

          1. cmdrklarg

            Re: Will that help people with disabilities

            Correct. It was the last Scary Acronym boogyman used by RWNJ media to whip up yet another moral panic in conservatives before DEI arrived. Kids being taught some of the reprehensible things that happened in US history is verboten by these assholes who want to whitewash it.

            So they misappropriated the term Critical Race Theory as this evil librul plot to teach schoolchildren how horrible white people are. Since Critical Race Theory sounds much scarier than US History to an uneducated conservative, the louder ones berated numerous school boards demanding that CRT be removed from the curricula. Since CRT is a college level topic it was never taught to kids; but it had served it's purpose as a moral panic to anger conservatives.

            You don't really hear about it anymore now that DEI is the panic du jour these days.

          2. jdiebdhidbsusbvwbsidnsoskebid Silver badge

            Re: Will that help people with disabilities

            I thought CRT meant Cathode Ray Tube, the context being the unfounded fear that people peddled about the "ray tube" being a weapon that fried your brain as you watched the telly. A euphemism for the conspiracy theory of government brain control rather than a medium for freedom of expression.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              the unfounded fear that people peddled about the "ray tube" being a weapon that fried your brain

              It's not unfounded. Two words: Faux News.

              More words: the entire output of ITV & Channel 5

              Even more words: strictly celebrity knitting bake-off x-factor made in towie

  9. Mitoo Bobsworth

    Devolution

    I just think it's sad how enthusiastically the USA constantly showcases its increasing stupidity problem to the rest of the World.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Devolution

      Don't worry, Farage looks like he might be able to maintain world beating stupidity soon enough. Yippee.

  10. IGnatius T Foobar ! Silver badge

    Good job!

    For the leader of a nation to actually be proud of that nation and advocate for that nation -- that's how it should be everywhere.

    Good for him. Keep up the excellent work.

    1. Mitoo Bobsworth

      Re: Good job!

      Because unbridled infantile narcissism always needs representation, right? Clearly, you've given this much thought!

    2. Always Right Mostly Bronze badge

      Re: Good job!

      Is this supposed to be irony or sarcasm?

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Good job!

      A thin veneer of the destruction of the US Constitution and Institutions …. and setup of a Crypto-Christian War-mongering Authoritarian One-Party Military Republic.

      $Trump puts a new spin on Crypto-Fascism.

  11. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Alert

    TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

    EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS

    PRIMARY FONT: COMIC SANS

    OTHER FONTS: ANY. MORE THE BETTER. MAGA.

    BACKGROUND COLOR: ANY COLOR AS LONG AS ITS GOLD

    FOREGROUND COLOR: ANY COLOR AS LONG AS ITS GOLD

    1. agurney

      Re: TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

      .. and to hell with apostrophes and grammar.

      [typefaces not fonts, but that's a rant for another day]

      1. PRR Silver badge

        Re: TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

        > typefaces not fonts

        Microsoft Office says "fonts'. Are you saying MS could be wrong???

        1. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge
          Joke

          Re: TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

          MS can't be wrong, especially since the next version of Win 11 will have an UI designed by Donald (or MS will be split into small companies, their choice)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

      NEW SPELLING FOR COMMON WORDS: HAMBERDERS. IT'S A COVFEFE THING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.

    3. the Jim bloke Silver badge

      Re: TRUMPIAN STYLE GUIDE

      BRAINFARTS FTW!!!

      now was that 'for the win', or 'fuck the world' ?

  12. TempusFugit

    Oh my!

    While fascists might enjoy art deco, leather jack boots, and bunting, lots of bunting. Where Mr. TACO is concerned, only two words come to mind:

    Tacky and gaudy.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh my!

      @TempusFugit

      Damn right! Who could think it is a good look?-

      https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/23991014/1420018789.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&crop=0.0044216483905188,0,99.991156703219,100

      1. ChodeMonkey
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        Re: Oh my!

        Is this more victorygirlsblog.com inspired content?

    2. ChodeMonkey
      Gimp

      Re: Oh my!

      Just because President Trump enjoys being showered with gold, it does not make him gaudy.

      Tacky perhaps. But that's a hazard with gilt drizzle.

  13. Alien Doctor 1.1

    New clothes

    I have a great new suit for the orangefuck pretend emperor although I can't find it at the moment, it's slightly invisible.

  14. JibberX

    GOV·UK A·OK?

    GOV·UK has a superficially consistent design, I know once you get past that layer its a little wild west, but its something.

    I mean the fact there are about 84 entry points to my personal tax page and each page says something different depending on what the weather is, is another thing.

    Bland but consistent.

    I can only imagine what a smorgasbord board of technical and visual horrors the real (USofA)·GOV has, I was potentially stuck up a mountain in Feb this year in CA due to a surprise snow storm and there were at least 3 official sites offering up to date info on road closures and snow chain usage and well... total guess which one was right and if it worked on Mobile or if it was all a mirage.

  15. cmb11

    If done correctly, it's a great idea

    Having all government sites following a standard with accessibility functions and coded for desktops and mobile devices makes a lot of sense. My concern is it's something the two time adult video extra is championing, I'm thinking it all end up looking like it was coded in the 90's with a dancing baby, sorry, Trump, on every page. Also syphoning of the funds from the government to a Trump adjacent entity to do the coding is defiantly on the cards.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      But if the Apple Store is your benchmark

      You're aiming low to begin with.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "usable and beautiful"

    If not actually newspeak for unusable and fug ugly it's gold plating the turd after applying the lippy to the pig. It very much looks like Trump America is going to screw the pooch in (the most tawdry) style.

  17. the Jim bloke Silver badge

    So they are going to modernise the interface standards?

    Is it going to be accessible to people who refuse windows 11?

    1. MonkeyJuice Silver badge

      Re: So they are going to modernise the interface standards?

      It it going to be accessible on Windows 11?

  18. Jamie Jones Silver badge
    Happy

    Sneak Preview

    Sneak preview of new Trump.gov website: www.trump.gov.catflap.org

  19. Scott 53

    Just when Mitchell and Webb are coming back

    Picture the scene: two web designers chatting by the water fountain, wondering if they are the baddies. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VImnpErdDzA

  20. collinsl Silver badge

    Without going into the politics of it this may be a good idea - GOV.UK as a website is actually held up as a fairly easy to use site, which works well on mobile, and which has a consistent interface. If the US can replicate that kind of deal then it'll surely improve things for them.

    It's just a pity the idea had to be tied up with the whole Trump branding thing.

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