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Tritium is ridiculously rare, incredibly expensive, and central to most fusion energy reactor designs. If research out of Los Alamos National Lab proves to hold true, it might soon become easier to obtain. Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen with two neutrons, and is typically used with the non-radioactive deuterium …

  1. Richard Boyce

    Are the numbers right?

    The article says that a 1GW D&T reactor would need 55kg of T, perhaps without a breeding blanket. It also says that would be enough to make 2kg of T with this new technique, even if the heat could be used for a secondary purpose. Not even close to break even. But then, that's been the story of fusion for a very long time. We need a genuine breakthrough. Until then, the best fusion plant we have is the one in the sky.

    1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

      Re: Are the numbers right?

      Ironic that a "clean"* fusion reactor requires a network of "dirty" fission reactors to produce its fuel.

      Like you say, sunlight is free (and collecting it then storing the energy is still getting cheaper at a significant rate).

      * Not actually clean because neutrons exist.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Are the numbers right?

        >Ironic that a "clean"* fusion reactor requires a network of "dirty" fission reactors to produce its fuel.

        All production designs assume a Tritium breeder - this is just a source of Tritium for experimental and prototype reactors

    2. bombastic bob Silver badge

      Re: Are the numbers right?

      You should take a look at the various fusion cycles, which give you an approximate energy yield for each kind.

      D+T has the highest energy release, followed by He3+He3 as I recall.. Forming tritium would involve D+H+e->T but is greatly outclassed by D+H->He3 and more frequently undergoing fusion with another He3, i.e. He3+He3->Be6 -> He4 + 2H for the greatest energy release in the sun's fusion process. Deuterium H+H+e -> D is more or less "energy neutral" and takes place in the sun such that the formation of D and then He3 actually adds a DELAY within the process that helps keep the sun from exploding...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium%E2%80%93tritium_fusion

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain

      It would seem reasonable to me to produce He3 as fuel directly or indirectly within the fusion reactor. One article talked about 'spin resonant' D+T fuel with a specific ratio. But forming T is apparently less frequent than He3. So why no He3 as a pure fuel??? Perhaps energy resonance, "spin resonance", and bunching techniques (velocity modulation in a traveling wave tube) could be used in accelerators to induce He3 formation

      1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

        Re: Are the numbers right?

        I would assume electromagnetism is the "why" in "why not"? He3 + He3 has four times the electromagnetic repulsion of D + T. Of course, D mass < He3, but the point remains: you need a lot more heat to kick things off. As little as I know about such things, this seems like a pretty strong dissuasion at this point.

    3. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Are the numbers right?

      I think the idea is about increasing production for research from existing plants. Storage and transport of Tritium is difficult and expensive. Otherwise, Lithium is probably the best source.

  2. PRR Silver badge

    > value of commercial tritium is about $15 million per pound [$33 million per kilogram]

    1 GW(th) deuterium–tritium fusion plant would require more than 55 kg of tritium per year.

    So $1,815 million for a year at 1GW. How much coal (oil, gas, wood) is needed for a GW-Year?

    "With a coal price of $120 per metric ton and a efficiency of 42 % the fuel cost of one kwh produced by coal is 4.2 cent per kwh (electricity)."

    https://www.reddit.com/r/energy/comments/1gg752o/fuel_cost_of_coal_power_plants/

    8760 hours/year

    $0.042*8760hr/yr = $368/KHyr

    GigaWatt-Year= 10^6 KWyr

    368 MegaBucks/year

    Oil, gas, wood etc, also wind/water, will be similar since they compete.

    NOT counting the human cost of all that coal pollution, today's tritium does not begin to compete with dumb old coal.

    (Math errors likely, corrections accepted.)

    1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

      And dumb old coal only "competes" when it's heavily subsidised and its external costs aren't properly accounted for (or outright ignored).

      1. JulieM Silver badge

        Fossil fuels have, effectively, an invisible subsidy baked into them that isn't there with renewables.

        Once you've hauled up a solar panel onto your roof or erected a wind turbine, exposing them to wear and tear from the very elements whose energy they are harvesting, you've already got to start thinking about getting a replacement sorted out.

        But fossil fuels, you can just keep on digging up out of the ground forever*, and you never have to waste a moment of precious money-counting time thinking about replacing what you have dug up -- or, often, whatever used to be on top of it (recalls some song she heard once about a town that doesn't exist anymore because "Mr Peabody's Coal Trains have hauled it away").

        * Until they run out, anyway ..... But the people making money hand over fist really don't care about any of that.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      See above – in production Tritium is a by-product of the fusion reaction. There are also other ways of producing Tritium but demand has thus far been too low and you can't really store the stuff.

      1. vtcodger Silver badge

        A cocktail napkin Tritium xource.

        Indeed. One way to produce Tritium that sounds feasible at the cocktail napkin stage is to bombard natural Lithium with slow Neutrons. Some of the small percentage of Lithium-6 (between 2 and 8%) will fission into an atom of Helium-4 and one of Tritium. The reaction is exothermic BTW. But the heat may be more of a nuisance than a useful power source.

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge
          Happy

          Re: A cocktail napkin Tritium xource.

          Bombarding something with slow neutrons has a nice, oxymoronic ring to it! :-D The neutrons are lobbed carefully underarm at the Lithium target!

      2. Primus Secundus Tertius

        Tritium has a half-life of about eleven years. So, hot stuff if you keep a lot of it about.

  3. swm

    I understood that hydrogen bombs produced tritium which decays into helium 3. The air in the rooms where the nuclear arsenal is kept is processed to get the tritium which (after decay) turns into helium 3 which is useful for scientific experiments and very cold refrigerators.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    There are 27 CANDU reactors around the world, 17 of which are in Canada

    If a certain president could count to 17 we would be in even more danger of being "liberated"

    1. seven of five Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: There are 27 CANDU reactors around the world, 17 of which are in Canada

      Aktschually, Canada is taking advantage of US goodwill by keeping all the Titutim, so unfair Canada will face uuuuuuge Tariffs, beautiful uuuuuge Tariffs.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: There are 27 CANDU reactors around the world, 17 of which are in Canada

        America demands that Canada send waste from its reactors to America

  5. virtualdesigncloud

    Wonder if there's any knocking around at Sellafield/Windscale, "the decision was made to build a large fusion-boosted-fission weapon instead. This required huge quantities of tritium" :-)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire#Tritium_production

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      IIRC the UK JET project is the only official civil source of Tritium. It was a problem for ITER when the UK left Euratom after brexit

  6. frankvw Silver badge

    The elephant in the room

    D-T fusion comes with two major drawbacks. The limited availability of T has already been discussed. The second problem is the release of neutrons. Neutron radiation is both incredibly difficult to shield and incredibly harmful.

    Both these drawbacks are addressed adequately by the use of a 6Li breeder blanket. A small amount of T is needed to start the reaction, at which point the neutron radiation is absorbed by the 6Li to produce T (and 4He, which is essentially irrelevant in this context). This solves both the neutron radiation problem and the T requirement problem at once.

    Even if spent nuclear fuel could be reworked profitably to produce T, it still wouldn't have the advantages of using 6Li as a T breeder.

    Also, reworking spent fuel into 6Li seems impractical given the abundance of natural Li.

  7. Stevie Silver badge

    Bah!

    Did someone get a fusion reactor to work while I wasn't looking?

    Producing a sustained energy surplus one might notice without expensive technical timing equipment that can measure gnat-fart times?

    Because all this seems a bit, well, moot unless we actually have a working fusion reactor design.

    1. vtcodger Silver badge

      Re: Bah!

      A working fusion reactor? Of course not. But if/when they start appearing in two or three or five decades, there's probably going to be a huge demand for Tritium. Might be a good idea to have some idea how that demand is going to be met.

    2. phuzz Silver badge

      Re: Bah!

      Fusion reactors have got to the point where they can generate energy for around five seconds, which isn't long, but I'd say it qualifies as longer than a gnat-fart*.

      *Unfortunately elReg's unit standards don't include a way of measuring time smaller than the 'Truss', and no fusion reactor has managed to run that long.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Re: some idea how that demand is going to be met

    Well a working fusion reactor isn't much good if it needs more Tritium than you can give it. Kind of a cart before the horse thing.

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