back to article In Otter news, transcription app accused of illegally recording users’ voices

Voice transcription service Otter.ai has found itself on the wrong end of a lawsuit that claims it trains its speech recognition tech without securing permission to do so. A complaint [PDF] filed last week on behalf of plaintiff Justin Brewer, points out that the company offers a service called the “Otter Notetaker” that …

  1. Nerf Herder
    Coffee/keyboard

    "In Otter news ...."

    Oh, that's awful!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "In Otter news ...."

      Otterly deplorable.

    2. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: "In Otter news ...."

      Sounds like they're using weasel words in the T&Cs to badger otter customers.

      1. Steve K

        Re: "In Otter news ...."

        No, it’s an otter you can’t refuse

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: "In Otter news ...."

          Perhaps they thought nobody would mink.

  2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    It would completely und-ermine trust in the system.

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      Aha! A stoatly different member of mustelidae...

    2. Efer Brick

      Pelt him!

  3. harrys Bronze badge

    So they have a free version.... Fair enuf for those mugs, for the others not so good

  4. Slx

    If it's doing this in the EU, it's going to have fun!

    They'd better have an Otterly secure GDPR compliance dam in place, or they're going to be having some 'interesting' correspondence from various EU data protection agencies...

    1. Woodnag

      Re: If it's doing this in the EU, it's going to have fun!

      It won't be the Irish DPA, unless Otter is competing with Facebook.

      1. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

        Re: If it's doing this in the EU, it's going to have fun!

        On de otter hand, tink o da lordly shareholders and have an Irish IPA.

  5. Diogenes8080

    Blocked

    Crossed my desk at the beginning of the year "unnamed AI providers in privacy policy - block".

    I've since seen the same weasel terms [no pun intended] cropping up in similar policies - words to the effect that the publisher expects you the customer to gain permission from all participants, and it's your liability if you do not.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Outright scammers

    A user in my org signed up to Otter. They joined the company all-hands call. Everybody in the company subsequently received an invite to join Otter - crafted to look as if sent by that user. A few of those users then signed up, to then have the same cycle repeat.

    Time taken from the initial user signing up to having customers calling to complain about our users spamming them with invites was under two hours.

    Reputational damage control (client confidential data etc.) and blocking the bloody thing took days!

    This is a propagation pattern that directly matches email-borne malware, and Otter should be treated every bit as ruthlessly as those criminals.

    This should tell you everything you need to know about their business ethics, and whether you should ever touch them, or a call with their bot listening.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Outright scammers

      I'd like to think that the guilty party was given the task of calling each customer personally to apologise and that the rest of the organisation got to hear about it.

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