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AWS has introduced new pricing for Kiro, its AI-driven coding tool, but unlike the pricing originally announced, the latest plans are "a wallet-wrecking tragedy," according to many of its users. "Kiro's spec-driven AI IDE is a gem," said open source PHP and Laravel engineer Antonio Ribeiro on GitHub, "until I saw your new …

  1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

    Just what we need?

    another a1 Bee Gees tie-in :(

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Just what we need?

      I know just the song!

      https://youtu.be/-_fJqZ6jBAs?si=rnz4zFvKlPoaZMyh

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Seems we've been here before...

    Who would have thought that using Amazon resources would quickly become more expensive than you had expected!

    1. Rich 2 Silver badge

      Re: Seems we've been here before...

      Anyone who actively seeks an “AI”-powered tool to write software deserved to get financially burned. Maybe it will teach them to use their brain instead

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Bubble finally bursting?

    I thinks it's just starting to dawn how much money they've spent (where "they" applies to all the players) and they're now panicking trying to show some returns for it. What a shame if it's too expensive for the market to accept.

    1. Tom Chiverton 1

      Re: Bubble finally bursting?

      I think it's still the case OpenAI needs to x10 it's pricing to be profitable right?

      May as well buy a high spec eGPU and Pi, run it all locally....

  4. Tron Silver badge

    Datacentres don't build themselves.

    Did you really think they were spending all that cash out of the goodness of their hearts?

    1. EricM Silver badge

      Re: Datacentres don't build themselves.

      or, to put it differently, where did you think the sky-high valuations of AI-tool-flingers came from?

      OK, besides the prospect of replacing humans completely, which seems to have caught the fusion-syndrome since 2023: Still just a few months off...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Datacentres don't build themselves.

      I thought that they would, was actually the end game. ;)

  5. AlanSh

    Why use AI?

    Write your own code - and save a fortune. If you don't know how to do that, what are you doing in this business anyway.

    Alan

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Why use AI? ... other than it makes the Tech Behemoths richer and you intellectually poorer.

      Spot on !!!

      As an addendum, you could always spend a small part of the 'AI' bill to learn how to code 'properly' !!!

      It might take some effort ..... BUT trying to use 'AI' to do it and then 'correcting' the code afterwards is not cheap or easy.

      In fact it is a 'Catch 22' ... if you are 'good enough' to correct the 'AI' spawned code then you don't need it BUT if you don't correct the code you are back at square one, only a poorer and massively frustrated at getting nowhere for your efforts.

      :)

    2. FIA Silver badge

      Re: Why use AI?

      If you don't know how to do that, what are you doing in this business anyway.

      Awww, bless.

  6. IGotOut Silver badge

    I'm confused.

    Being a coder, why is he having to spend so much money getting AI to do his work for him?

    That's like paying a professional artist to paint your portrait and then the artist getting AI to create the image for you.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I'm confused.

      But its actually you paying him for AI to paint you for him. You're paying his rates and the cost of the AI.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Balance

    How good is the "AI"?

    I use it for my own project, lightly judiging by a few comments. I use a number of models, some local. Usually, in the way you would scour the Internet for examples when struggling. I see what the AI comes up. Maybe I'm rubbish at prompting but when I tried to use it to create large blocks in my app it gets me in a mess. It doesn't seem to look at what is architecturally good, easy to read and debug. I am far from expert but it "appears" using AI to create large pieces of code could yield a frightening mess that leads to all sorts of issues with bugs and security holes. Even more than people do.

    So maybe there is a balance on how it's used with smaller productivity gains but still gains? Will that pay for the size of some investments? Probably not. But like cloud it's an industry that has been hyped massively and must fall back to somewhere sensible.

    1. AdamWill

      Re: Balance

      Claude is a lot better at this than any other model, but it's also very expensive. Gemini is awful at substantial coding. The OpenAI models are in the middle.

    2. Claptrap314 Silver badge

      Re: Balance

      ALWAYS keep in mind the recent study that demonstrated that you THINK you are much more productive with AI than you actually are. If you use it "a little", you will inevitably come to use it much more than you should.

      Just say no.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    embrace and extinguish ?

    The net effect of a widespread introduction of these very ordinary coding tools could well drive the rapidly decreasing number of competent coders from the Industry and dissuade new entrants except for those whose skills would always be inferior to the coding tool.

    Clearly with stagnant or decreasing salaries and insecure or vanishingly career paths in IT, there won't be a stampede into relevant studies or graduates seeking employment in the IT sector.

    This might well impact free/libre software as many contributors work in the industry as their "day job" (or did until recently) or neophytes working on projects to gain experience and exposure in order to secure future employment in the industry.

    If the possibility of gainful employment vanishes how many of these might well think "sod this for a game of soldiers" and abandon their efforts entirely or license their work educational and non-commercial only. (Commercial licences available.)

  9. tyrfing

    So you fire most of your developers because "AI will do it cheaper".

    Then you find out a) you'll spend far more on AI requests than the developers cost and b) the code is still not up to even the standard of that put out by people whose understanding of the language you work in is quite limited.

    What's that I smell? Could it be that you've left your irony on the fire too long?

    This is fairly amusing.

    1. Lon24 Silver badge

      The paradox may be that AI gets quite good at coding. But not perfect. Which means you need a senior dev to analyse, correct and sign off the code. More to go bug-squashing. Indeed you probably need a senior dev to specify the project to AI in the first place to avoid 'ambiguities'.

      Relying on ageing greybeards when the route to senior dev is disrupted/obliterated by AI doing the easy less critical stuff that a junior coder would have done. So where is the next generation of senior devs going to learn their trade?

      1. Jason Hindle Silver badge

        On the upside, if life-extending treatments emerge, the senior devs will at least be somewhere on the pecking order.

    2. kmorwath

      It will be funny, because when you have to deal with single developers, especially where there are no unions and no mandatory minimun salaties specified by industry-wide contracts, companies are at an advantage, and usually can pay most developers what they like.

      When they will have to deal with a few AI molochs, they will be the weaker part, and the molochs will set the price. A lot of C-suite executives will start to look far, far less smart... and they will be replaced by an AI too.

  10. OSYSTEM
    Holmes

    Does Amazon actual turn a profit at USD 2000/month?

    So this seems to be a more realistic AI cost model.

    I strongly suspect that Amazon still is not making a profit on the product, especially if you count the training costs.

    1. kmorwath

      Re: Does Amazon actual turn a profit at USD 2000/month?

      Boil the frog slowly... or let devs becomes really dependent on AI - then raise prices as you like.

      Moreover, they are some training material also, especially if the correction are fed back into the models.

      1. ecofeco Silver badge

        Re: Does Amazon actual turn a profit at USD 2000/month?

        This.

        It is indeed boil the frog.

        That IS the American business model, after all.

  11. StewartWhite Silver badge
    Gimp

    Resistance is useless (but so are "vibe" requests)

    "Vibe requests are useless" - the remainder of the sentence is superfluous.

  12. Stevie Silver badge

    Bah!

    Cor, what a surprise!

    *WHO* could have envisioned Amazon enshitifying their AI developer tool?

    I mean, it's not as if it's Amazon Prime!

  13. GoneFission
    Meh

    Antonio Ribeiro's entire GitHub post being obviously written by AI while complaining about AI tool pricing really is a gold example of what a regurgitated nightmare we've landed ourselves in.

  14. slowquery

    30 year lurking un-commentard breaking cover to say:

    Thank you elReg / attendant commentards for publishing / commenting on articles like this one that help old grizzled greybeards understand (what remains of) our industry. Passion to profession, and soon back to passion.

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