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Google on Monday admitted to anticompetitive conduct in its dealings with Australian telcos. Australia’s Competition and Consumer Commission on Monday announced a lawsuit against the web giant after it admitted requiring Telstra and Optus, Australia’s two biggest telcos, to only pre-install Google Search on Android phones they …

  1. Occasional Comentard

    Google agreed to a fine...

    Is that how it works these days? Are all fines now negotiable? I must remember that next time I get a parking ticket.

    1. GNU Enjoyer
      Unhappy

      Businesses have the ability to simply refuse to pay, as no government is going to sanction a big business over unpaid fines.

      With parking tickets, there is the option to go to court, but the way it works is that legal representation costs far more than the parking fine and at best the ticket will be invalidated, or usually a mere fee reduction (leaving you with the legal costs).

      1. Dinanziame Silver badge
        Windows

        no government is going to sanction a big business over unpaid fines.

        Do you have examples? I don't remember the big US corporations ever refusing to pay those multibillion fines from the EU... And I think the EU would totally take them to the cleaners if they did.

        1. Alumoi Silver badge

          I DO remember the big US corporations being fined and paying when the fines were just the cost of doing business.. I DO NOT remember them paying a cent of those multibillion fines as they are still fighting the fines in the courts.

    2. Dinanziame Silver badge
      Devil

      You can totally challenge parking tickets! It's a thing. Of course, considering the amount of money involved and the time it takes, it's often not really worth it. When the fine is billions, most businesses do appeal because even a slight reduction is worth it.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It just means they didn't take the option of challenging it in court

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Challenge private parking fines. Don’t admit liability. In separate letters, keep asking them for endless details, evidence, photos, names, proof of who was driving, times, witnesses. They soon give up.

      Don’t bother challenging council or government parking fines.

      This is not legal advice.

  2. GNU Enjoyer
    Devil

    It would be good if all such proprietary software and SaaSS companies

    were sent bankrupt over enforcement over their massive intentional copyright infringement.

    But unfortunately that's not going to happen - it looks like governments are instead going to give such companies copyright exceptions.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Facepalm

    "agrees to modest fine"

    Isn't that nice of them ?

    The next time I get stopped for speeding, I'll agree a "modest" fine of €10.

    For fuck's sake, who is running the economy already ?

    1. DJO Silver badge

      Re: "agrees to modest fine"

      ...The next time I get stopped for speeding, I'll agree a "modest" fine of €10....

      If you have at least one building full of overpaid lawyers with the all the charm and moral qualities of pubic lice and who are willing to twist any legislation into distorted mobius shapes then feel free, otherwise, forget it.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Trump's Gift

    > "China has tweaked its immigration rules to create a new class of visa that allows young science and technology pros to work in the country."

    Yes, but the serious question here is, how many non-Chinese would want to work there in the first place?

    This is an obvious response and attempt to cash in on the fact that- after the better part of a century where the US was seen as the most desirable place for scientists and generally skilled people to work and which in turn enjoyed the fruits of that talent and the dominance it helped support- they are now, under Trump and pals, doing their best to relinquish that lead by alienating such people and discouraging them from working in the US.

    Of course, that lead really got going in the first place after Nazi Germany started persecuting and forcing out scientists, who fled to the US where they were safer and more welcome, hence "Hitler's gift" to the rest of the world.

    And now that there's likely to be a similar brain drain *from* the US, China is far from the only country attempting to cash in on that.

    But despite its increasing strength and rivalry to the US in scientific research, I can't see it as the type of place foreigners would be rushing to just yet, even if they *could* get in with fewer restrictions.

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  6. Taliesinawen

    Perplexity AI sued by Japan newspaper for using its content to create derivative works

    > The Yomiuri Shimbun, Japan’s biggest newspaper, has sued Perplexity AI for scraping its content and using it to create derivative works

    Despite claims to the contrary, the entire AI model is based on scraping other people’s work for training, without compensating the owners of the original content.

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