Anyone else remember the stickers with the slogan "To er is human, to completely foul things up you need a computer"?
UK's Ministry of Defence pins hopes on AI to stop the next massive email blunder
The UK's Ministry of Defence is the latest to slap its hand on the big red AI button as it seeks solutions to prevent data leaks. Aussie startup Castlepoint Systems announced this morning that the MoD had selected it to provide what it calls AI-powered data control. The security shop promises that its explainable AI tech …
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Wednesday 6th August 2025 14:13 GMT Tron
They aren't paying to make it secure.
They are buying a scapegoat. Next time it all goes pear-shaped, they will just blame the AI. That may be the real value of AI for corporations and government.
There are much cheaper solutions than buying AI software, but as they are spending tax payers' money, not their own, cost is not an issue. And AI is trending. Just as NFTs, blockchain and the metaverse once were. Nobody ever got sacked for jumping on a bandwagon.
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Wednesday 6th August 2025 15:05 GMT Pete Sdev
Join the Great Revolt
We must negate the machines-that-think. Humans must set their own guidelines. This is not something machines can do. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware, and we are the ultimate program! Our Jihad is a "dump program." We dump the things which destroy us as humans!
I've come to the conclusion that the current "AI" isn't just bullshit, but dangerous bullshit that requires an organised resistance and a Butlerian solution. Despite being a huge fan of the late Iain M Banks' works.
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Thursday 7th August 2025 07:04 GMT amanfromMars 1
Re: Join the Great Revolt
I've come to the conclusion that the current "AI" isn't just bullshit, but dangerous bullshit that requires an organised resistance and a Butlerian solution. Despite being a huge fan of the late Iain M Banks' works. ....... Pete Sdev
Do you think AI has concluded and conspires to similarly remedy the dangerous bullshit politically corrupt and inept leaderships of humanity? Can such happen ..... and would you like it to happen?
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Thursday 7th August 2025 13:43 GMT theOtherJT
Re: Join the Great Revolt
A ship mind once explained that (paraphrasing) "I am a Mind I am not some primitive software running on a computer. It is beyond you to grasp what I am."
"AI" as it currently exists was seen as a complete joke by the Culture Minds. What we have today is a technological dead end that gets us no closer to what Minds are.
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Wednesday 6th August 2025 21:24 GMT Dan 55
Meanwhile...
Microsoft researchers bullish on AI security agent even though it let 74% of malware slip through
What it is about the two letters "AI" that makes people blind to the overwhelming evidence?
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Thursday 7th August 2025 05:20 GMT xyz
Using AI to catch an xlsx
Dear MoD,
Maybe instead of spending gazillions on some AI and giving it access to Christ knows compartmentalised what, you just raise the clearance level on the Johnny Foreigner helper wallah spreadsheet, which was obviously given the classification of "who gives a fuck, they're just smelly, expendable foreigners".
I know how hard it is getting data out of you lot, even if I'm in the loop, so this smells like someone trying to cover their arse by screaming "we need AI". Or did you farm this out to some third party supplier as it wasn't deemed a security issue?
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Thursday 7th August 2025 08:20 GMT Kevin Johnston
Re: Using AI to catch an xlsx
I presume this got a downvote because of the wordage as the concept itself is bang on the money.
If you want to prevent data getting out you put meaningful locks on the data and the transfer method, you do not put some wishy-washy IT magic eye in the loop instead even if it is simpler. The fact it is simpler should be the clue of how effective it should be as proper security is hard and needs serious planning/knowledge/implementation.
For an organisation such as the MOD I would expect data transfer processes to start at maximum security and then need to be be actively relaxed to the level applied to the data with a note of the active account. If the transfer is to an outside entity then the same loop starts again so this cannot happen by accident and there is a clear record of who did it.
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Thursday 7th August 2025 09:21 GMT Doctor Syntax
Being responsible for a leak of classified information should result in being permanently removed from access. If that means the only role open after that is counting the paper clips in some adjutant's office or a far-flung minor consulate so be it. It wouldn't take too many colleagues disappearing into that fate to impress the rest that they needed to be more careful.
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Thursday 7th August 2025 12:44 GMT Electronics'R'Us
Leak?
Such a leak could be construed as an offence under the official secrets act although that may be open to question.
At the very least, the person who made the blunder should have had an interview with the security vetting people. That is not very common for SC but it has been known to occur.
Perhaps further training and tighter supervision as well.
Anyone who comes into contact with UK classified information as a standard part of the day job has signed a little piece of paper (or electronically nowadays) that specifically reminds them of their responsibilities under the act. Not having signed it does not mean you are not covered by it, but that little piece of paper / file means you have no excuses (I didn't know about that....) if you do something dumb.
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Thursday 7th August 2025 10:33 GMT Simon Harris
I hope it has a better success rate than Microsoft's AI security agent.
Microsoft researchers bullish on AI security agent even though it let 74% of malware slip through
'At least 26% of our state secrets are still safe," said an MoD spokesperson.
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Friday 15th August 2025 12:31 GMT collinsl
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