back to article Wasp nest at US nuclear site tests ten times over safe radiation limit

A wasp nest positively glowing with radiation was found at a Cold War-era nuclear weapons site near Aiken, South Carolina. A US Department of Energy report released last week casually dropped that a routine inspection had "discovered a wasp nest on a stanchion" near millions of gallons of liquid nuclear waste stored at …

  1. ParlezVousFranglais Silver badge

    Weaponised insects, coming to a battlefield near you soon...

    1. teknopaul

      Truth

      Battlefield being Aiken, South Carolina

    2. Catch-the-Pigeon

      revenge of the drones

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

    Let's see who comes up first with a new supervillain... Marvel or DC ?

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

      Wasphulk?

      1. blu3b3rry Silver badge

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        We already had Dr. Bees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc

      2. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        Stung by a radioactive wasp, George H W Bush assumes his secret identity as WASP Man1 -- with superpowers of old money, a fancy prep school education, and Ivy League connections.

        Okay, it needs work. . . I'll get back to you.

        ________________

        1 White Anglo-Saxon Protestants

        1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

          Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

          I thought WASP was for WASsermann Positive.

          1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

            Judging by the downvote somebody didn't get the literary reference.

            1. nobody who matters Silver badge

              Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

              I took it as a medical reference rather than a literary one.

              Perhaps the downvoter has undergone the test and had a positive result and is now feeling negative about it?

              1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

                Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

                The literary reference is a medical one.

        2. TimMaher Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: WASPs

          How many wasps does it take to change a light bulb?

          Two.

          One to call the electrician and one to mix the dry martinis.

      3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Alert

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        Wasphulk?

        Yes, best not get them angry

      4. cosmodrome

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        >Wasphulk?

        Isn'r he the new German foreign minister?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

      Its... "The Sting". Super-power is tricking people into handing over their money. Unfortunately there is a long line of grifters ahead of them.

      In the film they fool a powerful billionnaire into investing large amounts into a crackpot scheme to bankrupt the US economy using worthless tokens. Once the victim realises the consequences for his own fortune he attempts to capture The Sting and force them to return the money. All (financial) hell breaks loose. How much destruction ensues ? How does it end ?? Does anyone win ???

      Now all it needs is a decent opening tune.

      1. Saint Geli
        Coat

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        Surely, The Sting's special power is making the sun invisible.

        1. Ken Shabby Silver badge
          Childcatcher

          Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

          I thought it was the ability to have sex for 8 hours

          1. MrBanana Silver badge

            Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

            He debunked that myth himself. Those 8 hours included dinner, a movie, and two hours of begging.

      2. PhilBuk

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        "Now all it needs is a decent opening tune."

        How about "GoldBlinger"

        Phil.

        1. RegGuy1

          Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

          Goldstinger, surely.

          1. MachDiamond Silver badge

            Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

            "Goldstinger, surely."

            I can hear the incredible Shirley Bassey singing the theme music right now.

    3. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

      Superpower, can wreck picnics and barbecues in one leap

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: Getting stung by a radioactive wasp...

        And, clearly, we need to call in Ant Man to combat these mutant wasps.

  3. Catch-the-Pigeon

    "100,000 dpm/100 cm² means that in a 10 cm x 10 cm area, you’re detecting 100,000 nuclear decays every minute."

    average is around 50–200 dpm/100 cm²

    here comes the super bee or hornet.

    1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge
      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        "It is not a bee."

        Due to an ancient injury?

        1. collinsl Silver badge

          Lah dee dee, one two three, Eric the half a bee!

    2. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      A SuperBee

      ... can be viewed here:

      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=SuperBee+automobile+photo&t=fpas&ia=images&iax=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.hotcarsimages.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F05%2F1970_dodge_super-bee_1970_dodge_super-bee_1212.jpg

      1. AVR Silver badge

        Re: A SuperBee

        The actual image that search is pointing to is https://static1.hotcarsimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/1970_dodge_super-bee_1970_dodge_super-bee_1212.jpg if it matters.

      2. JWLong Silver badge

        Re: A SuperBee

        I prefer a 69' Road Runner w/426 Hemi, myself.

    3. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      A SuperBee ...

      ... may be viewed here:

      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=SuperBee+automobile+photo&t=fpas&ia=images&iax=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.hotcarsimages.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F05%2F1970_dodge_super-bee_1970_dodge_super-bee_1212.jpg

  4. b0llchit Silver badge
    Joke

    Airborne defences enabled

    ...hopefully not just capped with duct tape and good intentions.

    Hell no! We have put up a "No Entrance" sign and indoctrinated all lifeforms that exiting the site, by any known or unknown means, is prohibited.

    Leaving the area is punishable with mandatory $100k fines and 15 years imprisonment. Which bug would want that to happen. And, for what it is worth, we do have recyclable flypaper hanging around all over our site to keep the buggers in check and defend against unsanctioned events.

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge

      Re: Airborne defences enabled

      Just put them on a no-fly list.

      1. ibmalone

        Re: Airborne defences enabled

        They're already not flies!

        1. PhilBuk

          Re: Airborne defences enabled

          No they're the close relatives of ants...

          Oh shit! Did anybody check the ant hills?

    2. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Airborne defences enabled

      No, they're not capped with "duct tape and good intentions" - DOGE said that the duct tape is unnecessary so got rid of it, and as for the good intentions.....

    3. vtcodger Silver badge

      Re: Airborne defences enabled

      Most likely the wasps were experimenting with some sort of nuclear weapon. And what better place to do so than a site where nuclear waste is readily available? Since the wasps seem to have abandoned their lab, we can assume that they have perfected whatever device they were developing and have moved on to production at a larger and more suitable facility. Doubtless all this will be made clear in the not too distant future.

  5. wolfetone Silver badge

    Wasps are bastards at the best of times, but now you want to make them nuclear?

    Picnics are going to be ruined by this. RUINED!

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      I so want these wasps to mutate into giant 3 metre long super-wasps with neon red eyes and green-glowing sting venom.

      Imagine trying to have a picnic with them around ? That's one nest I won't be taking a Karcher to.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Wow, you really hate picnics huh.

  6. John Robson Silver badge

    10x regulations...

    Given how (rightly) conservative the regulations are that's not nearly as bad as it sounds.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 10x regulations...

      Exactly. And while SRS Watch thinks it'll make the killer wasps just 2x bigger, recent Aussie discoveries sure suggest that 10x-100x is much more likely!

      1. Excellentsword (Written by Reg staff)

        Re: Re: 10x regulations...

        D:

  7. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Duct tape?

    "We put a wooden lid on it, made from the boxes that material came in."

  8. Awk_ward

    The BIGGEST THREAT to human kind.

    President Trump is currently removing blades from Windfarms and refitting them with a giant hardened mesh. A motion sensor will alert the Farms to the presence of said 'Nu-killer Wasps' and 'Swat' down in place. Asked to comment, the Trump administration were too busy dancing to YMCA and patting each other on the back.

    We asked a spokesperson for renewable energy for a response but they were all on a 'training break in El Savlador'.

    The President said, "We must do everything we can, everything humanly possible, to distract away from the Epstein files". No further comment was given.

  9. HelpfulJohn

    It's been done. Many times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Furies_(Roberts_novel)

    For some strange reason, loots of people think wasps would make good horror story evil dudes.

    I've never really understood that. I like wasps. They're good guys.

    1. Mage Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I like wasps. They're good guys.

      Figs?

    2. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: It's been done. Many times.

      Wasps are absolute bastards. Just ask the bees, who are much more important to our survival as a species.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    D'oh

    It's nucular.

  11. TeeCee Gold badge
    Coat

    Wasps.

    ...ten times over safe radiation limit...

    They must have been buzzing.

  12. Marty McFly Silver badge
    Boffin

    Panic over nothing

    The article reports 100,000 "disintegrations per minute" (dpm), which exceeds a regulatory level of 10,000 DPM by a factor of 10x.

    A little research and I learned that millions to billions of disintegrations per second are required to cause harm to humans. This nest is literally thousands of times smaller than what is handled in medical or industrial contexts.

    For example, a PET scan (commonly used for cancer diagnosis) is 100,000 times more activity than the wasp nest. A household smoke detector has around 20x more activity than the nest. Cancer treatments like brachytherapy is a million times more than the nest.

    Bottom line: The wasp nest’s 100,000 dpm measurement was significant enough to require cleanup under DOE rules, and the "10x" multiplier makes for a good news story. But it was many orders of magnitude below the activity levels that would cause harm to humans.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Panic over nothing

      That changes when one of them stings you. Then you have it in you. In your blood. Right next to your living cells, not on the skin with a few layers of protection. For the same reason strontium is extremely dangerous. Not when it is outside your body, but the chemical is a very close relative to calcium, and once your have it inside the body uses it to build bone structure, with a high probability right next to your stem cells since there is more fluctuation.

      The numbers alone say not much, especially if you know ahead that those bees are radioactive and you can prepare to avoid getting stung, or breathing/eating the pollen/honey near/in their nests.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Panic over nothing

        He mentioned a PET scan as having 100,000 times more activity. You know what you get that activity from? It isn't the scan, it is the radioactive dye they inject into you prior to the scan. So I'm still completely unconcerned about being stung by one of those wasps which would give me a tiny fraction of the radiation I'd get from a PET scan. OK well I would very concerned about getting stung, but the concern would be about the sting being painful, definitely not about the radiation!

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Panic over nothing

        "That changes when one of them stings you. Then you have it in you."

        The venom might need to be mostly Polonium then. I expect they are measuring the entire wasp's nest rather than individual insects and then milking them to see what the dose would be in the case of a sting.

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Panic over nothing

      Yeah, but, giving the radiation levels in sane units likel the rest of the world uses does make it seem "big". " 100,000 disintegrations per minute" sound much larger than a 1600+ becquerels. It's why they measure trucks in lbs instead of tons. It's gotta be big numbers, even if you are measuring tiny things. Just ask Stormy Daniels.

      (According to Wikipedia, "there is roughly 0.017 g of potassium-40 in a typical human body, producing about 4,400 decays per second (Bq)")

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Panic over nothing

        Eating one ordinary banana would probably put more radiation inside your body than if every wasp in that nest stung you at once.

        1. TimMaher Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: Eating one ordinary banana

          Is this still about Stormy Daniels?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Eating one ordinary banana

            Yes, even that distraction is apparently better than talking about Epstein

            :)

          2. DS999 Silver badge

            Re: Eating one ordinary banana

            If it was about Stormy Daniels we'd be talking about a tiny orange mushroom rather than a banana.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Err, did they say not to worry as the nest was empty anyway ??

    OMG, ITS TOO LATE !!!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      > "The wasp nest was sprayed to kill wasps,

      Spray first, ask questions later? Did they kill other wasps, outside the nest? were the wasps already dead from the contamination? If the containment were not breached, how did the wasps get the contaminated material to build the nest? In fact, if the nest were more contaminated than the ground around the nest, it seems like the wasps *preferred* the contaminated material for some reason. Did it keep them warm through the winter?

      They classified this as "original nuclear material" -- so are these wasps 30-50 years old??

  14. Gary Stewart Silver badge

    It could be worse

    Just be glad it wasn't ants, otherwise we would be fighting "Them". Damn, I'm old.

  15. David 132 Silver badge

    "no wasps were found on the nest"

    Well, obviously not. They're now invisible. Duh.

    Not so much "Green Hornet" as "Glowing Green Hornet"!

    I, for one, welcome our invisible yet also glowing green vespal overlords....

  16. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge

    I was surprised to learn that wasps were never in any of the cheesy 50s mutant giant insect drive-in flicks!

    Heck, according to this Wikipedia article, if it can be trusted, there's only been one single 2015 movie featuring wasps.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_featuring_insects

    Guess it's finally their turn?

  17. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    Just down the road ...

    ... from the spider farm.

  18. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    No puppy-sized hornets

    Of course they would have abandoned the normal sized nest for something larger.

  19. david 12 Silver badge

    Food chain reaction

    Wasps, like humans, concentrate heavy metals. Wasp saliva, like human excreta, has higher heavy metal concentration than the background rate.

    1. TimMaher Silver badge
      Angel

      Re: Higher heavy metal excretion

      Especially if they ate in Brum.

      So long Ozzy.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    When I say giant, I don't mean big, I mean flipping enormous! Look at its sting.

    Giant wasp confronting Donna Noble

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Coming soon

    Giant ants riding giant wasps into battle!

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Man-man

    Stung by a radioactive wasp that had no effect on his physiology at all, Dave felt shit for a couple of days but when he recovered he had become "MAN MAN"...with the ability to step over small obstacles with the greatest of ease and the strength of precisely one man Dave became the man he always was.

    Spending 24 hours a day 7 days a week as his well known identity of "Dave the Plasterer" our hero moves from job to job in his "Plaster Mobile" with his trusty sidekick, radio, over quoting, under delivering and over ordering bags of plaster to increase his profit on the next job.

    Marvel Presents...Dave: The First Tradesman.

    Coming soon...

    Dave: Age of Potholes

    Steve: Gyprock

    Dave: Civil Engineering

    The Tradesmen: Infinity Holes

  23. plrndl
    Mushroom

    Weaponized Atomic Super Pest

    And, of course, we have complete faith that TACOland is telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (so, help me, God).

  24. cosmodrome

    Good Contamination, Bad Contamination

    The wasps became radioactive from the ionizating radiation from the nuclear waste, not from the nuclear waste itself. So everything is fine there's, no danger from nucleat waste. We should focus instead on the real hazards like these bird eating, environment destroying wind mills in Europe, before it's too late. Think of the children!

  25. steviebuk Silver badge

    Its fine

    "A US Department of Energy report released last week casually dropped that a routine inspection had "discovered a wasp nest on a stanchion" near millions of gallons of liquid nuclear waste stored at Savannah River Site (SRS) that "was probing 100,000 disintegrations per minute/100 square centimeters beta/gamma.""

    In the maga world there is no health and safety, the report is "fake news" and created by "Biden and gang".

  26. Tron Silver badge

    reduced to about 34 million gallons through evaporation.

    Oh that's alright then. For the non scientists among us, evaporation is where stuff magically vanishes.

    1. trindflo

      Re: reduced to about 34 million gallons through evaporation.

      Good point and funny.

      In fairness, mostly water evaporates and heavy metals are unlikely to tag along. It is an older technique of distillation known as 'jacking'.

      That said, I wouldn't want to be downwind from the evaporative pool even if it has been carefully hidden underground.

  27. sitta_europea

    The Hanford site at one stage was dumping kiloCuries of radioactive waste every week into the Hanford river:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site#Environmental_concerns

    The Savannah river's ecology is currently severely stressed by the toxic wastes which are caused by the human population:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_River#Ecology

    So putting things in perspective, when very typical soils around our houses measure of the order of a microcurie per cubic metre:

    https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/TN/nbstechnicalnote1139.pdf

    I hardly think that finding three microcuries in a wasp nest is a big story.

    There's more than that in my dad's old alarm clock, and a *lot* more in my smoke detector.

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