back to article Flock storage: Audio boffin encodes data in a starling

Forget flash storage – flock storage is here after it was demonstrated that data can be saved to a bird. Proof that birds can be used to store data was uploaded to YouTube by Benn Jordan, a musician and researcher, who, during the half-hour video, encoded a drawing of a bird into sound via a spectral synthesizer, and persuaded …

  1. JimmyPage Silver badge
    Pint

    And if they pass it down to chicks ....

    things get really interesting ....

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: And if they pass it down to chicks ....

      Soon they will be singing whole spectral films.

      My guess is that they next will demand royalty payment for their performances. And, talking about royalties, it is only fair they get royalties for the period of life + 70 years. Their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grand-chicks are in dire need to profit from the achievements.

      1. KarMann Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: And if they pass it down to chicks ....

        Dammit. Your comment lead me down a rabbit hole (or into a dovecote?) of trying to remember the details of a video I saw a while back, probably on YouTube, possibly just a short, certainly not too long, about how some recent-ish (i.e. past couple of decades, maybe) piece of popular music resembles some bird's song, whether deliberately or not, to the point that people thought the birds had learnt the song from exposure to it, rather than more the other way around. I do remember it ended with a joke about the band owing the birds royalties. If anyone could help further jog my memory, either with the video, the song, or the birds in question, yeah, that'd be great.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: And if they pass it down to chicks ....

        ... and if they can also learn to Poisonify their compositions (to protect them from AI snarfage -- a tech developed by the same Benn Jordan), then they should be set for a good while indeed ... ;)

  2. Headley_Grange Silver badge

    A New Excuse

    The cat ate my homework.

    1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: A New Excuse

      The cat wrote my homework.

    2. Ken Shabby Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: A New Excuse

      I tawt I taw a puddy tat!

  3. dbayly

    Hacking the Flock

    Tom Lehrer's "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" , is a description of a hacking crime

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Hacking the Flock

      So that is why I get so many rfc1149 dropped packets.

    2. Christoph

      Re: Hacking the Flock

      It's not against any religion

      To want to play Doom on a Pigeon

      1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
        Big Brother

        Re: Hacking the Flock

        It soon will be!

  4. Apocalypso - a cheery end to the world Bronze badge
    Happy

    Cheep storage

    nt

    1. Sp1z

      Re: Cheep storage

      USB* Flash Drives

      *Universal Serial Bird

  5. DarkwavePunk Silver badge

    Everyone knows that

    The bird is the word

  6. Mage Silver badge
    Linux

    I'd heard

    I'd read that starlings can mimic English words, but this takes it to new heights.

    Rooks and Ravens are enthusiastic mimics (inc. tractors and chainsaws) and some can use words, like a grey parrot does, to refer to objects. The rooks also seem to have a simple native vocabulary, as do chimps, but so far we've not detected any animal/bird using a vocabulary as an actual language.

    1. PB90210 Silver badge

      Re: I'd heard

      I hear the Orange Crested Trump can mimic English words but experts believe they are random sounds rather than anything coherent

      1. Juha Meriluoto

        Re: I'd heard

        ROTF!

    2. HuBo Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: I'd heard

      Yeah, near 12:10 in the YT Benn indicates starlings may be able to count up higher than some other birds (eg. to 7, vs 4 for crowes) giving them an edge in fractal murmurations ... that and the song bird's syrinx at 2:50.

      Quite a cool video ... and for those who just want to see the 176 KB drawing and how it is stored in the bird, that's at 13:30 and 17:15 ... fascinating stuff!

      1. Mage Silver badge

        Re: vs 4 for crowes

        Rooks are a common kind of crow here and they can certainly count higher than 4.

        Rooks, Jackdaws, Magpies, Carrion/hoodie Crows and Ravens are not as good mimics as starlings, but are certainly very much smarter.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I'd heard

      If you see a dead crow on the road, the lookout had probably been a youngster. Young crows can warn of a carrrr coming, but won't have learnt lorry.

      I'll fetch me coat...

  7. Jedit Silver badge
    Devil

    "But can you play Doom on a pigeon?"

    The obvious initial experiment is to try and train the aforementioned starling to sing the Doom theme. Bird calls outside mating season are warnings to other birds that the tree is occupied, so the threat of Ultraviolence may prove beneficial in that regard.

    (Just don't let them sing it during mating season. We don't want there to be any confusion over consent when the male starling says he thought she was singing "Hurt Me Plenty".)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "But can you play Doom on a pigeon?"

      Beware: this is completely off topic, I just hate pigeons.

      Not sure if you can play Doom on a pigeon, but I would definitely would like to play real life Doom with pigeons (and seagulls) as “participants”... Both aforementioned species have done a number 2 on my cranial area in the past. The seagull was the first, many decades ago, while crossing the channel, about half an hour before reaching Dover. The second one was a pigeon that decided to nest just above my front door and found the moment of me leaving for work an excellent time for its ablutions.

      According to various sources the odds of this happening are very low, let alone it happening twice in a lifetime. Even so, I would not trust any kind of bird with my data. Before you know it that data may be dumped on someone else.

      1. blu3b3rry Silver badge

        Re: "But can you play Doom on a pigeon?"

        I had the fortune to be wearing a hat the only time I've had that "experience".

  8. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Cloud

    And Starling can transfer the data to the cloud, the proper way.

    1. anderlan

      DOH!

      I said I needed you to acquire and install STARLINK service at the site, not STARLING!

  9. KittenHuffer Silver badge
    Linux

    If you were to ...

    .... combine this with the Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers then you wouldn't even have to worry about printing out the data packet and attaching it the the avian leg!

    ----------> Our favourite avian carrier!

  10. KarMann Silver badge
    Trollface

    The RFCs never lie!

    "But I also want to be candid and say that birds are an awful vector for data transmission, as is any living thing due to the many unpredictable variables at odds with how we store binary data."
    It sounds as though Prof. Jordan has never heard of IP over Avian Carriers, somewhat surprising given his apparent background.

    ETA: Ninja'ed by KittenHuffer!

  11. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    There used to be a starling near our lab in Belfast that regularly imitated a Trimphoone. What a pity it never got to hear a modem.

    1. phuzz Silver badge

      When I was a kid the starlings in my village reproduced all the car alarms they heard, and also multiple different phones. This was back in the day of landlines, so more than once I got up to go and answer the phone only to realise it was the damn birds.

  12. David Harper 1

    For high-end bird storage, you want the Superb Lyrebird

    Who can forget this jaw-dropping excerpt from David Attenborough's Life on Earth?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSB71jNq-yQ

    1. HuBo Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: For high-end bird storage, you want the Superb Lyrebird

      Very nice clip! The chainsaw sounds (at the end) are quite impressive and, in relation to Benn's YT (at 15:08), the Lyre Bird could sure get the Starling interested with its impression of camera shutter sounds ...

  13. Brave Coward Bronze badge

    Microsoft already interested!

    After trying unsuccessfully for years to get a Bird on the Wire, they are all: 'Come over to Windows, my little starling!'

    RIP L.C.

  14. AIBailey

    As starlings are migratory...

    ... you're guaranteed off-site backups.

    Though the latency for retrieval from an off-site starling backup could run into many months.

    1. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: As starlings are migratory...

      Yes but what's the airspeed velocity of an un-backed-up starling?

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A novel take on "a little bird told me."

    Remember compress and encrypt before trusting your secrets to fast feathered storage.

    "Sing a song of sixpence,

    A pocket full of rye.

    Four and twenty blackbirds

    Baked in a pie."

    Some sort of avian raid tech ?

    Coincidentally just now the announcer on the wireless mentioned a murmuration of starlings which looks like avian cloud storage. ;)

    † introducing "A Drunken Fingerprint Across the Sky" Ade Vincent.

  16. Kurgan Silver badge

    RTTY is better

    I'm quite sure RTTY is much better than FT8 for a bird. Two tones are much easier to them than phase modulation.

  17. MatthewSt Silver badge
    Coat

    Let's call it Twitter...

    I'll see myself out

  18. rcxb Silver badge
    Holmes

    Better idea

    Wouldn't it be more useful to train them to say: Alexa. Order a Rolex. Confirm.

    Then release them in London on a warm day...

    1. blu3b3rry Silver badge

      Re: Better idea

      There are stories (although no clue how accurate they are) online of parrots and the like figuring out how to activate an Alexa in the room with them, and get it to play music.

  19. gi7kmc

    If he does try using FT8 will there be a new WAB (worked all birds) award?

  20. osxtra

    Opportunity

    I now eagerly await the arrival of a new online service: Flockusign.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Did he offer Quid pro quo to get information out of a Starling?

  22. spireite
    Coat

    Can they be used for internet transmission......

    Musk Starling.....

    or maybe to saving banking credentials

  23. 897241021271418289475167044396734464892349863592355648549963125148587659264921474689457046465304467

    Starling swarms will be bombed to prevent .PNG frames of the pee tape migrating in.

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