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Meta has followed in Google's footsteps in deciding that pending EU political advertising regulations are so onerous to comply with that they're not even going to bother. Zuckercorp said in a statement Friday that the Transparency and Targeting of Political Advertising (TTPA) regulation, due to go into effect this October, …

  1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Pint

    Oh no!

    Anyway . . .

    Beer for the EU. It would be nice if the US would implement similar legislation.

    1. ParlezVousFranglais Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Oh no!

      Now we just need ALL advertising on these platforms to be subject to the same restrictions, and said platforms might start to become usable again...

    2. Arthur the cat

      Re: Oh no!

      It would be nice if the US would implement similar legislation.

      The squadron of pigs that just flew over my office is in total agreement.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Oh no!

        >>It would be nice if the US would implement similar legislation.

        >The squadron of pigs that just flew over my office is in total agreement.

        Porkdome ?

    3. DS999 Silver badge

      Yes kudos to the EU

      For figuring out how to get Google and Facebook to willingly stop carrying political ads. Now do the same for TV and cellular and I might have to move to Europe for the peace and quiet!

      1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

        Re: Yes kudos to the EU

        The UK and EU are considerably more civilised than the US.

        Especially when it comes to political ads on TV and phones, I've *never* received a phone call from a candidate or party and TV political ads are few n far between

        1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          Re: Yes kudos to the EU

          Trump Lite, aka Farage is attempting to follow Trumps playbook, recycling MAGA ideas. So don't be surprised when The National FrontReform start trying the advertising tactics the US employs, pushing (and possibly crossing) the bounds of, decency, good taste, accepted practices and the law. I'm sure they'll cross the bounds set by the ASA because they will have noticed that crossing the line only results in a slap on the wrist and "don't do that again" result, by which time the offending advert has already done it's job and isn't needed again anyway.

          1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

            Re: Yes kudos to the EU

            They already worked that out with Cambridge Analytica when they mislead the country over Brexit, they broke financing laws and more as well.

            But, the traditional media and broadcasters have a vested interest in not letting them get away with that shit, so the Meta/Google decision is a good tesilt

    4. graemep Bronze badge

      Re: Oh no!

      It is a good idea, but it I do not think many countries allow the heavy political advertising the US does. The UK does not allow broadcast advertising (parties get allocated a number of free slots each) and there are caps on total advertising spend during elections. I would guess enough EU countries had similar rules to make it seem natural, rather than a major change to the status quo.

      1. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: Oh no!

        > but it I do not think many countries allow the heavy political advertising the US does.

        The problem being addressed here is that social media is a Wild West free for all and the EU are trying to tame it which is a very good thing

  2. Paul Herber Silver badge

    <sarcasm>

    What's the point of being a billionaire if you can't buy a few politicians/governments/countries!

    </sarcasm>

  3. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Go

    The US Is Starting To Realize

    They need the EU more than the EU needs them.

    The US has lived in a fantasy la-la land for too long. Reality is a b*tch.

    1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: The US Is Starting To Realize

      No problem. When the Eastern Invaders come calling this time, don't call us. You know, since you don't need us.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: The US Is Starting To Realize

        You only rocked up the last times when you'd worked out which side could make you the most profit and you're doing it again now with Ukraine, you're a bunch of mercenary profiteers and only tolerated, not liked.

      2. Pete Sdev Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: The US Is Starting To Realize

        If we did call you, you'd turn up 3 years late as always.

      3. Citizen of Nowhere

        Re: The US Is Starting To Realize

        Only idiots in Europe would believe you'd help.

        Last time, you did a lot of fuck all until Pearl Harbour.

        Self-serving as always.

      4. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: The US Is Starting To Realize

        When the Eastern Invaders come calling this time, don't call us

        We gave up on that a long time ago when we realised that, fundamentally, the US was very little different to 1939-era Germany.

        The reason they got involved in WW2? Noting to do with "doing the right thing" and very much to do with one of Germanies allies attacking. And let's not forget all the failures that the US has dragged some of us into:

        Korea

        Vietnam

        Afganistan

        Iraq

        So, no, we won't call. And, hopefully, our politicians will grow a spine and start saying "no" to the next US military failure-in-the-making.

  4. KittenHuffer Silver badge

    Now that has worked ....

    .... can we have further laws that place similar burdens on other forms of advertising on Meta, Google, et al.

    I see this as the only way that we can finally persuade them that we don't want them spying on every aspect of our lives just so they can feed their advertising machines.

  5. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Happy

    ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

    I'm trying hard to see a downside here.

    >>"we're seeing regulatory obligations effectively remove popular products and services from the market"

    On which planet do they live where service users clamour for political adverts?

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

      Planet Tech Douche Bro.

    2. veti Silver badge

      Re: ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

      The downside is that it does nothing to restrict bot and troll farms run by suitably motivated parties, like the infamous Internet Research Agency.

      On the plus side, though, the IRA used small scale paid ads to gather hard diagnostic data on which types of messages were most effective, so even they would still be impaired a little.

    3. LBJsPNS Silver badge

      Re: ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

      Planet Political Consultant.

    4. kmorwath Silver badge

      Re: ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

      Ferenginar , probably.

    5. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      Re: ...likely limiting the reach of such ads...

      The products and services are popular with the people who advertise with Google and Meta

  6. ecofeco Silver badge
    Thumb Up

    And nothing of value...

    ...was lost.

    1. Grogan

      Re: And nothing of value...

      Something of value was gained... faecesbook no longer interfering in politics, hedging their bets, and gaslighting people with false information and propaganda.

      Zuckerberg is a despicable piece of shit. Look how he switched gears as soon as it looked like Trump was coming back.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge

        Re: And nothing of value...

        If they want to interfere in politics or influence elections they don't need to carry ads, just tweak the firehose of bullshit that is their algorithm.

        1. druck Silver badge

          Re: And nothing of value...

          They do.

          The BBC has created social media accounts representative of many types of political views in the both the US and the UK, and monitors not only which ads they see, but what type of content is directed at them. The misinformation which they are exposed to is pretty horrific, and definitely a threat to democracy in both nations (or what is left of it, in the case of the former).

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Meltdow

    Just the usual meltdown of US tech billionaires; like kids having a hissy fit when they find that they don't always get their own way. Get over it.

    What a f**king shame </sarcasm>

  8. Huw L-D

    Every day, Idiocracy becomes more of a reality.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "users would see less relevant ads"

    I tried allowing tracking, monitoring etc., on an old pc for a while. I saw precisely zero ads gat were in any way relevant to me. It was all for stuff I'd already bought, so need no more, stuff I'd already looked at and decided not to bother with, so no interest there. I saw ads for stuff a bit like what I'd looked at, as if that was something I'd give a rats arse about. I saw what was "trending" but for the life of me I couldn't work out why I should be even remotely interested.

    Tracking is still off on any "real" platform I use.

    Dear marketing execs. Just fuck off.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "It was all for stuff I'd already bought"

      About six weeks after I purchased a corded electric lawn mower online, the vendor emailed to offer me the "opportunity" of buying another - as though anyone would need more than one for a ~50 m2 lawn; or did they think the product was so crappy that it didn't last 6 weeks *and* I would be daft enough to replace it with same crappy model ?

      "Dear marketing execs. Just fuck off." Concur completely.

      FWIW: I had to buy online as only the battery models were available in bricks and mortar stores. The mower worked as advertised.

    2. Adrian 4

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAAVLcMzr4

    3. Jamie Jones Silver badge

      I remember the good old days where adverts worked. They would be showcasing something I didn't know about, and would sometimes be interesting enough to warrant a look, and in some cases a sale.

      This was *before* the bullshit tracking, when ad's were placed not on some perceived insider knowledge of the reader, but on the actual knowledge of the pages content.

      Reading a site reviewing new cars? Adverts for car companies.

      Browsing a tech site for "latest gadgets" - ads to (wait for it...) new gadgets.

      A site for sheep fanciers? Links to buy maps of Wales etc.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    --> stop allowing political, electoral, and social issue ads

    Where can I get that where I live?

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Trollface

      Disconnect from the (comms) grid?

  11. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

    How outrageous - demanding responsible reporting about political donations in the form of "free advertising" for the platforms supported by the billionaires.

    Once again, the decision seems to be "We're American; Fuck You!"

    I think their arrogance even exceeds the Pumpkin Fuhrer on this item.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "We're American; Fuck You!"

      Not that these septics aren't simultaneously furiously engaging in vigorous autofornication.

      Fittingly given it's only acceptable that American may slaughter Americans (which they do enthusiastically) that only Americans might comprehensively fuck over other Americans (which they do with even greater enthusiasm, if possible.)

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      And note especially that they've had years of knowing this was coming and by the time it's in force will have had 18 months of the being able to read the law as enacted. Have they spent any of that time trying to implement processes so they can carry on while staying within the law? Of course not. That's dev money. They'd far rather spend far more of it lobbying to get the law overturned than, you know, complying with. Now they finally realised that's not happening, they're spitting their collective dummies instead of accepting reality.

  12. IGotOut Silver badge

    Remember..

    ....they said the same shit about GDPR. Threats to pull out of the EU, and how they couldn't possibly carry on.

    Yeah.

  13. graemep Bronze badge

    > Once again, we're seeing regulatory obligations effectively remove popular products and services from the market, reducing choice and competition

    Who are political ads popular with.Tech billionaires and politicians?

    1. AVR Silver badge

      Who else does Zuck socialise with these days? All his friends are telling him what a terrible mistake the EU's making here.

    2. cosmodrome

      I totally love them. I just can't help. Political ads are the greatest thing ever. So smooth and tasty. Truly addictive. They also make you smart and successful, beutiful and rich, Hey, can I have another political ad, please?

    3. toejam++

      Once again, it reminds us that ad buyers are the real customers for social media. End-users are part of the product.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Suffer in ya jocks!

    The tech bros can go and get ….

    1. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

      Re: Suffer in ya jocks!

      Perhaps if they get occasionally they'd not be such arseholes

  15. Jamie Jones Silver badge

    It's [Meta] chosen the latter, and blames the EU for it. "Once again, we're seeing regulatory obligations effectively remove popular products and services from the market, reducing choice and competition," Meta said in its statement.

    Funny, because EU citizens will be thanking the EU for it.

    Are they so up their own bubble that they believe this shite they spew?

    1. cosmodrome

      No, they're just so used to distorting reality in a way that turns anything they don't like into a disaster for everyone else that they are completely failing to see that they'll lose any credibility overdoing it. Still, people enough will believe them on face value because even an absolute minimum of critical thinking is hard.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If we told you who was paying us for Political Ads ...

    ... we would have to kill them.

    [the Ads that is]

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