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With three months to go until Microsoft ends support for Windows 10, Dell and Intel want to convince corporate buyers that upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue and not a necessity. Someone using an AI-powered PC Whomp-whomp: AI PCs make users less productive READ MORE In a specially drafted "Windows 11 & AI PC Readiness …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    FAIL

    "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

    Heh, sorry, but Redmond has decided that its precious Win11 will not run on older hardware, so upgrading is not always an available choice.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

      But you know what that's about, don't you? Money.

      If they hadn't let recent purchasors upgrade they'd have had the ambulance chasing lawyers gearing up for action. Nothing to do with limited generousity.

      If they let everybody upgrade they wouldn't get the licence sales from new hardware.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

        Downvoted for complaining about lawyers.

        1. Daniel M

          Re: "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

          Not understanding if this is serious.

          My brother is a patent lawyer, and he thinks the jokes that you hear about lawyers are true, which is why he laughs at them.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Happy

            Re: "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

            Most jokes I hear about lawyers come from lawyers; e.g.---

            "The medical research community is seriously thinking of using lawyers as lab animals for research, rather than white rats, because--

            1) the researchers definitely won't get emotionally attached to lawyers;

            2) there are more lawyers than lab rats;

            3) there are some things that a lab rat just won't do.

        2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: "upgrading their PC fleet is a virtue"

          Your post downvoted for not reading carefully. The complaint was about the ambulance chasing variety. Earlier in my career I spent a lot of time in the courts. As with any other profession there were good and, shall we say, not so good. I found the episodes where they shunted the jury (if there was one) out of earshot fascinating while they debated points of law. Particular respect for Dessie Boal for, amongst other things, getting FIB 1 as his number plate although it sounds like you'd disapprove of his doing that.

  2. Dan 55 Silver badge

    If this is aimed at the UK market

    They should have turned down the US raah raah do this and you'll be a winner bullshit because it comes across as rather gauche. We all know they're doing this to try and inflate this quarter's numbers rather than the next quarter's.

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: If this is aimed at the UK market

      But have you discussed this with any of "your fellow UK IT decision makers (ITDMs)"?

      ITDM!

      Please, don't let there be any native-born Son of Wayland or Daughter of Boudicca who refers to themselves as an ITDM.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: If this is aimed at the UK market

        Sons of Wayland won't be running Windows.

        1. sedregj
          Childcatcher

          Re: If this is aimed at the UK market

          ... and a Daughter of Boudicca

          will quite an elderly bird nowadays. Probably 1960+ years old and probably not too bothered with IT.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If this is aimed at the UK market

      It’s can’t even identify a fucking cross-walk or Fire Hydrant on the sidewalk in the DogShit that is CAPTCHA..

      What chance of a Zebra crossing or Fire Hydrant underground.

  3. blu3b3rry Silver badge
    Holmes

    Unrealistic

    The bump-up in price for "AI-ready" PC's is likely to put businesses off more than anything.

    Most places I've worked at saw any IT provision as a necessary evil - computers get replaced if they die, and everything is run on a shoestring.

    My last employer was a very conservatively run family-owned business, and resolutely assigned desktops to everyone - even the MD didn't have a laptop. Our sole IT guy worked two days a week as a contractor.

    As a lowly technician starting in 2016, the desktop I got given was a 2006 era tower complete with a single-core Intel processor (can't remember if it was a Core Solo or a Celeron), that appeared to have been built out of stuff our IT contractor had lying around in the cupboard. I also remember being handed a rollerball PS2 mouse to complete the setup with! Windows XP was used on a lot of the lower end machines until about 2017, when some updates to software simply refused to run on it....so we got upgraded to W7 as hardly anything could cope with Windows 10.

    Given attitudes like this aren't unusual in the slightest (although I admit that place was impressively miserly), who do Dell and Intel think they're kidding in hoping anyone will shell out the extra dosh for all the AI crap?

    1. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

      Re: Unrealistic

      I was stunned to learn that the so-called "AI" laptops are nearly CAN$1000 more than their non-AI predecessors. All so you can be spied on 24/7 by Microsoft and US law enforcement through "Recall."

      Nor is the "AI" aspect of these machines worth crap, because they've a fraction of the horsepower and memory available that my RTX4070Ti does, and I still can't run LLMs more than 9GB in size. Which means they're so compressed they hallucinate like they've snorted cocaine, sucked on a tab of LSD, and done a dose of Ketamine, all within the space of five minutes...

      1. mcswell Bronze badge

        Re: Unrealistic

        "they're so compressed they hallucinate like they've snorted cocaine, sucked on a tab of LSD, and done a dose of Ketamine, all within the space of five minutes..." Yeah, but you've gotta compare that with Elon.

    2. ITMA Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Unrealistic

      "and everything is run on a shoestring"

      You have SHOESTRINGS! You lucky barsteward.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Dear Louise Quennell

    "see it as an opportunity for businesses to reimagine how PCs and IT infrastructure can help create greater productivity, collaboration, and increased security,"

    No i fucking don't.

    Now please just follow the signs to the B-Ark departure gate.

    1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: Dear Louise Quennell

      Coming from the same jokers as these who plan to rape your IP and can't patch their own fscking products?

      https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/23/microsoft_copilot_vision/

      https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/24/microsoft_sharepoint_ransomware/

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A trivial example, I appreciate but, nevertheless an example of how AI can streamline ones life.

    eBay now offers to AI generated listing descriptions.

    They are so consistently useless crap that I now simply disregard any item with an AI generated description and move on to the next.

    The list of likely candidates shrinks.

    A useful.time saver

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Are these AI generated listings replacing the ones that copy'n'paste the description - and the photos - from Amazon, promising you their "new in unopened box" items?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Only now the image for the "Dressing gown, Women, Medium Fit" is an anime waifu.

  6. that one in the corner Silver badge

    Lack of a killer app

    Killer app?

    Are there any even vaguely useful apps that require an AI PC?

    Seriously.

    Searching throws up a few toys. So far, not even anything that looks like it'll help anybody who is already doing anything locally with ML, as they (still) need the beefy GPU (they already have) to make any real dent in execution times.

    1. Duncan Macdonald

      Re: Lack of a killer app

      AI does have a few good artistic uses (for examples see the videos produced by Music-and-Songs on YouTube) but so far I have yet to see any serious use for AI as the results are far too likely to be incorrect. Until AI can produce results that are more accurate than the average YouTube video there is very little justification for the huge hype and expenditure.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge

        Re: Lack of a killer app

        I prefer Almost Vinyl...

    2. MonkeyJuice Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Lack of a killer app

      The USP for LLMs is they know enough shell to rm -rf your box cheaper than hiring someone to do it.

    3. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: Lack of a killer app

      Sellers tend to say: "This AI PC is perfect for ChatGPT".

      It's a scam.

    4. mcswell Bronze badge

      Re: Lack of a killer app

      "Are there any even vaguely useful apps that require an AI PC?" Well, you know, make NSFW pictures of your office mates?

    5. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Lack of a killer app

      It could be the killer app in itself. Killing the PC market.

  7. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "a survey of 1,000 IT decision makers"

    Surveys say that 82% of people in surveys will give random answeres just to get whoever's doing the survey out of the way.

    Surveys also say that 100% or marketroids will believe the result if it says what they want to hear..

    1. MonkeyJuice Silver badge

      1000 IT decision makers in the Travel and Tourism SME sector with at most 2 staff. Including the receptionist.

    2. StewartWhite Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      A very valid quote from Vic Reeves (a popular comedian from the 90s m'lord): “96.2% of all statistics are made up”

    3. Kurgan Silver badge

      I actually don't do surveys. It's quicker than giving random answers.

      But I understand that really evil people (which I'd like to be, but I'm too lazy) will indeed give intentionally wrong answers to utterly fuck the system.

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        "But I understand that really evil people (which I'd like to be, but I'm too lazy) will indeed give intentionally wrong answers to utterly fuck the system."

        Ah, ah, ahhh, AH-CHOOO! Someone must be talking about me.

  8. joeldillon

    'We're seeing strong recognition of this shift among your fellow UK IT decision makers (ITDMs)'

    So well a) that's a lie, isn't it, but b) who on God's green has ever talked about 'ITDMs'? Making up acronyms is not going to make you sound more convincing.

    1. Daniel M

      Decision Makers: The Ones who Authorize Payments

      I do agree that "ITDM" is not A Thing. Internspeak?

      In legalese, you use acronyms or abbreviations (Abbrevs) like this if you are planning to use This Important Legal Term over and over and over ...

      I have never heard of DM's, except for the derivative from PM's, but "decision maker" written out is pure Salesese in the United States.

      You may have a database full of company contacts, but, if they are Decision Makers, you are golden.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Decision Makers: The Ones who Authorize Payments

        You may have a database full of company contacts, but, if they are Decision Makers, you are golden a pest to every one of them.

  9. Czrly

    I have an "A.I. PC" on order! I *DO* see it as an opportunity.

    I actually *DO* have an A.I. PC on order. It's a Tuxedo Computers laptop that I shall need as I embark on a prolonged chapter of intermittent international travelling since I don't particularly wish to lug my water-cooled development desktop around the world with me. It shall be A.I. capable and also contain the necessary TPM 2 and other bits to enable the running of Windows 11.

    I do see it as a great opportunity to avoid running either A.I. workloads or Windows 11 on it at all costs. I actually relish the prospect.

    Of course, I selected the new hardware because of its Vulkan 1.4 support which I need because I'm developing software the uses Vulkan 1.3 ~ 1.4 features and extensions. I'm sure I'll run KataGo on it at some point, too, since I'm a Go player, and that's OpenCL so I wouldn't be surprised if the "A.I. features" of the GPU do get employed at least for something at some point in their lifetime – at least, I know that the fp16 support will very likely be used.

    And fp16 support is literally the only thing that this "new opportunity" has that I could even enumerate as a feature that isn't supported on that aforementioned water-cooled development desktop (i7 7700, GTX 1080) which I assembled in 2017~18 and haven't upgraded(*) even once, which does not have any kind of TPM, which does not have "AI cores", which runs KataGo and other OpenCL workloads "just fine" because even fp16 features are not at all a hard requirement, and – CRITICALLY – which also never ran Windows 11, nor shall it! (It could, with hacks, but I am not inclined to bother to hack it even for shits-and-giggles and I've even run Windows ME for laughs, in my time, so there you go!)

    The new laptop is all-AMD so it should support Linux much better than the desktop. I've conquered nVIDIA's shitty drivers on the latter so that's also quite OK (as long as I enforce the use of xwayland for all the things that freak out when the status-quo is nVIDIA+Wayland – while nVIDIA's drivers have improved over recent years, there are still a lot of things that just don't work with them under Wayland.)

    If it was not for the need to take my dev. environment with me on an aeroplane, I honestly wouldn't have upgraded or even seen a need to in the near future.

    But, still: I am going to absolutely love toting a Windows-11- and fully-AI-capable relative super-notebook around, running Gentoo (or Arch if I lose my nerve before Autumn and conclude that trying to hack on Gentoo over third-world Internet is not likely to be "fun" of the pleasantly-forgettable kind and opt for a safer, binary distro, instead.)

    (*): I moved houses without draining the reservoir, once, and the pump died – presumably because the ~800m altitude difference was significant enough to force it to ingest water from the filled and sealed system – so that's been switched out. That is literally the only maintenance I've ever had to do on it beyond topping up the coolant.

  10. Wang Cores Silver badge

    ITDM has to be marketing punching up people with titles like "assistant to the manager" or managers without a mandate.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ITDM

    You are in a twisty maze of servers, all alike.

    Roll 3d6 to decide how many to reboot.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I see the results of Copilot many days: When I get five page essays from the HR department, instead of being ignored or receiving a useless non-reply to a question. I bet they are loving their increased "productivity".

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    From another publication:

    "On Tuesday, Jenn Saavedra, Dell's chief HR officer, announced that the employee net promoter score, or eNPS — an industry-standard measure of employee satisfaction — had fallen to 32, according to a transcript of an internal video update obtained by <publication>. The results mark a double-digit drop in the eNPS for the second year running at Dell — it fell from 63 to 48 in 2024 — and an almost 50% decline in two years."

    And they're thinking AI and RTO are going to save this ship. We don't need no stinking employees, we have automation.

    Best of luck, all.

  14. Tron Silver badge

    You are better off going back to paper.

    'AI' systems will leach your data for LLM crunching, breaking every data privacy rule in the book. The 'AI' they offer is not 'I', doesn't work well enough to be allowed anywhere near enterprise systems and is little more than a scam. Recall is a recipe for disaster. And the cloud has now been weaponised for geopolitics. W11 requirements are an e-waste holocaust and will burn a hole in your budget at a time when governments are killing global growth. How many red flags do you need?

    Do your stuff on your current kit with standalone software (not SaaS/Cloud) on an intranet using local storage and never connect it to the public internet. Where needed, connect cheap Linux systems to the internet and air gap them from your intranet with carbon based lifeforms.

    Post-'AI', an internet connection is too great a security/privacy risk for your internal network.

    1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: You are better off going back to paper.

      Your real name is Commander Adama, and I claim my £5.

      1. Evil Scot Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: You are better off going back to paper.

        OK Boomer.

  15. ComicalEngineer Silver badge

    The day I actually need AI I will put an axe through my computer.

    Thankfully my current W10 laptop and Mint desktop will see me through to retirement.

  16. David Austin
  17. BobChip
    Alert

    A gateway?

    To Hell!

    No thanks.

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