Re: Contrast
> What level were you considering AI?
I wasn't, actually. So far AI (or ML, as it used to be called) has been moderately to very successful in very specific domains (e.g., automatic language translation), and shows promise in areas such as medical diagnosis, weather forecasting, and many more. I don't see that LLMs have so far contributed anything of value to the human condition - if anything, quite the opposite. I still don't know what they're for.
>> "but that's a somewhat misty-eyed vision of "worked so well for the world""
> Nope, absolute, solid, visible, fairly difficult to argue against. Absolute benefits.
Opinion. We'll have to agree to differ there.
>> "But we accept regulation as essential in many domains"
> Yes to a point. We also look back at the horrors of history where regulation and law was used for evils.
Disingenuous; just about anything you can think of can, and has, been used for evil purposes. That is absolutely not a reason to abandon it (personally, I'm quite grateful to live in a world where the right for others to murder me is heavily regulated).
> Why should we ever develop anything new at all? Its dangerous!
Disingenuous; because new stuff may be useful and may improve quality of life. New stuff may also be potentially dangerous - that's why it may need to be regulated. But you knew that.
>> "The EU's attitude is not an evil lefty anti-US plot"
> I know. Its fear.
Sure; fear of the inappropriate power of unaccountable organisations with agendas that don't generally include good will towards European (or any) people.
> Absolute paralysing terrifying fear.
Apparently not so paralysing.
> Of course it only applies in their walled off little world of the EU
The EU is neither little, nor walled off. If any nation is walling off as we speak, it's the US.
> which is why they then end up using the developments from outside the EU such as the US and China.
Everyone uses developments by everyone - they call it "globalisation", apparently - do keep up.
>> "Google are very, very good at what they do (Meta, not so much) - but sorry, I didn't vote for them to run the bloody world however they see fit, for their own profit."
> Yes you did, when you used them.
No, I didn't - by using their rather good software I voted for them to carry on developing rather good software. I would, in fact, like them to be regulated so as to not be able, as a sideline, to run the bloody world however they see fit, for their own profit. I would even, god forbid, be prepared to pay for their rather good software if loss of their theft and world-domination sideline entailed an alternative revenue stream to support their software development business. Plus, their anti-competitive practices means my choices for alternatives to Google products are effectively curtailed.
> And when you say world you mean their little world of their stuff under their control.
Um, sure, it's called hyperbole. Though I'm not sure I'd use the word "little" to describe the Google world of data theft, intellectual property theft, suppression of competition, political influence, ... gangsterism, in a word.
> Unless you are gonna go into illuminate conspiracies ...
No conspiracy-theorising required - the Google conspiracy to rip us off is right there, in plain sight (they'd probably call it a "business plan").