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Uncle Sam has decided it's time to free US-connected undersea cables from Chinese influence. FCC chairman Brendan Carr announced on Wednesday that the Commission would vote next month on a rule that will not only secure undersea cables from America's international adversaries, but also pump cash into a buildout of submarine …

  1. beast666 Silver badge

    China, Russia, Iran, North Korea etc bad.

    United States, Israel, EU, NATO etc good.

    Ok, we get it... What drivel for the dumb masses.

    1. steelpillow Silver badge

      You fuckwit.

      China, Russia, Iran, North Korea etc pissing with international undersea cables.

      United States, Israel, EU, NATO etc trying to run undersea cables to everybody's benefit.

      That you do not get it, and furthermore do not even get that pissing in el Reg's pocket is utterly counterproductive, makes you the true laughing-stock.

      Your only saving grace would be to come out as a Putin-controlled AI. Such blunders would then be more forgivable.

      1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

        >> United States, Israel, EU, NATO etc trying to run undersea cables to everybody's benefit.

        Everybody's benefit? You are talking out of your arse. The USA is not our friend. Tariffs, motherfucker, have you heard of them?

        1. sedregj
          Windows

          "The USA is not our friend."

          I've got loads of mates in the USofA, I've tried to stop them from apologizing for Trump. There is no need, its just a phase.

          If T2 does manage to become T3 (or something similar) then things will become very worrying indeed - that's when you know that everything, including the Constitution has been thrown out of the window.

          So, for now, we hunker down and wait for that particular bit of the world to settle down.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            That peice of the world called Gilead.

          2. Alan Brown Silver badge

            "its just a phase"

            2016-2020 can be explained as "just a phase"

            2025 is deliberate action pushing the politics of cruelty

        2. steelpillow Silver badge

          VoiceOfTruth You really are hilarious.

          "Everybody's benefit? You are talking out of your arse. The USA is not our friend. Tariffs, motherfucker, have you heard of them?" is the grossest non sequitur (look it up, dear child) I have met this year. International cables are not national tariffs. Yeah? No? Oh dear. :p

        3. Andrew Scott Bronze badge

          tariffs

          yes, but We pay them not you.

    2. JLV Silver badge

      Shepilov, you incompetent troll.

      Here at our research agency for the internet, our goal is to promote division between Trump and the "woke left". That's part of your job, remember?

      How does that work if your sock puppet tells the Americans that your sympathies lie with Russia?

      > The Russians won. You'd think we would be grateful. I know I am.

      I'd call you dumber than a retarded lobotomized piece of lichen, but that would be insulting to retarded lobotomized pieces of lichen.

      Yours, Ilya Abramovich.

  2. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

    And why are we supposed to care?

    This article is written very much from the POV of America being on the 'right' side. The poor old USA, with all these adversaries. Where did they come from? Something must be done.

    Meanwhile, the USA is making more adversaries every day. More tariffs = less friends, and don't pretend otherwise.

    Maybe it really will be the case soon of the whole world vs the USA. Maybe we don't want INTERNATIONAL undersea cables under American influence or control. Did Brandon Vigliarolo ever consider that?

    What the world needs is less USA.

    1. JLV Silver badge

      Re: And why are we supposed to care?

      The world certainly needs a lot less Trump.

      That said, cutting undersea cables isn't just happening to the US, look at the Baltic Sea, which AFAIK is not part of the US. It's not even, I think, near Greenland, the putative 52nd state.

      It's a challenge to everyone and just because this is the US FCC talking about it here doesn't make it any less real. You wouldn't want something to happen to your TikTok dancing hamster vids, would you?

      1. PRR Silver badge

        Re: And why are we supposed to care?

        > look at the Baltic Sea, which AFAIK is not part of the US. It's not even, I think, near Greenland, the putative 52nd state.

        Greenland is Denmark. Denmark divides the Atlantic and the Baltic.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: And why are we supposed to care?

          … and !!

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  3. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Boffin

    The US can dictate legislation out to 12 miles from their coastline. Other than that, it is international waters and US law does not apply.

    There is an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) out to 200 miles from the coast. - UNCLOS explicitly states that all States, whether coastal or land-locked, enjoy the freedom of laying submarine cables and pipelines in the EEZ. This is derived from the high seas freedoms, which largely apply in the EEZ as long as they are not incompatible with the coastal state's specific EEZ rights. And undersea cables do not conflict.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Nice try.

      Any country is free to buy and sell oil in any currency.

      Feel free to look up the ones that decided they no longer wanted the PetroDollar.

      Look how Brazil is being bullied by the USA .

      Look what happens when private contractors murder people in other countries

      Laws mean jack shit when you have the largest military in the world.

    2. DavCrav2

      "The US can dictate legislation out to 12 miles from their coastline. Other than that, it is international waters and US law does not apply."

      I cannot see any possible reason why you would lay an undersea cable 13 miles off the coast of Hawaii or Oregon unless you were planning on laying it to Hawaii or Oregon. So they just mean that they will blanket deny any cable construction that terminates in the US from these groups.

      1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

        And the rest of the world should do the same for American cables.

        1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          They are certainly free to. They are also free to disregard your ravings.

    3. Catkin

      It's 9 words into the body of the article: US-connected undersea cables. Everyone else is free to do whatever they like, they just can't connect one or more ends of their cable to American soil without following the rules.

    4. Mike VandeVelde
      Boffin

      "The US can dictate legislation out to 12 miles from their coastline"

      Their coastline, or the coastline of the "at least 128 military bases located outside of its national territory".

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations

      If you squint right, and I believe I'm squinting correctly, count how many undersea cables don't come anywhere near a USA military installation.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Agent Orange ignores USA Laws/Constitution. Why would he bother with International/maritime??

  4. Merrill

    The cables are strategically important to the US because a great deal of Europe to Asia traffic transits the US during the US nighttime. Also, most traffic between Latin America and anywhere transits the US.

  5. Alan Brown Silver badge

    hmm

    With TEAM USA's rapidly diminishing political influence, their increasing desperation to control the world becomes more and more obvious

  6. Whtetrash01

    Decouple from the US

    At this point the US should STFU and let the rest of the world decouple from them like it is currently happening

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Funny thing that USA is worried about Huawei et al.. while rest of the world is worried about Cisco et al with NSA-provided software. Claiming it's not the same as NSA isn't even funny.

    Chinese spies are (at least right now) a much smaller problem.

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