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Like it or not, it is a verb (as well as a noun). The OED agrees. No amount of FUCKINGs will change that
verb [with object] 1 use borrowed capital for (an investment), expecting the profits made to be greater than the interest payable: without clear legal title to their assets, they own property that cannot be leveraged as collateral for loans you can leverage your stock portfolio and diversify into real estate. 2 use (something) to maximum advantage: the organization needs to leverage its key resources.
Given how the Leftpondians are fond of architecting things, I wonder if they get people in to plumber their houses when pipes start leaking?
And when getting a house wired, is the house being electricianed?
What is with the War on Verbs in the US?
Why must everything be verbed?
p.s. Have ye noticed that cultural imperialism is rampant now across the UK? Look at the Netflix series 'Sex Education' from a couple of years ago. That was almost unwatchable for the cultural imperialism. It gave such a misleading impression of the UK. Thankfully Emma Mackey & Ncuti Gatwa made the first few seasons worth it.
Look at El Reg and her obligation that all articles be written with US English as standard.
I am a fan of Tim Harford's 'Cautionary Tales' [1] but he is obliged to write his podcasts with a US audience in mind and so, anything that might shake US listeners out of their comfort zone is removed.
[1] https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/
I think they're mostly talking about companies, and July-to-June fiscal years are somewhat common in my limited experience. But if it is governments, your biggest candidates for each include:
July fiscal year: Australia, Bangladesh, Egypt, Kenya, Pakistan
October fiscal year: United States, Thailand, lots of Caribbean countries
Perhaps it is time to look into alternatives that run on different OS's? Then you can rid yourself of being tied to windows and this other software.
I have one windows system in my business. It runs XP and controls an ancient NC Lathe. The system is air-gapped and is only used for this purpose. The software vendor went out of business years ago. When this system dies, we will replace the lathe with another one but at the moment, it does the job we want from it.
In order to fine them, there would have to be a law against doing this. There isn't. If there was, Android manufacturers and IoT manufacturers who can't be bothered to keep servers running would have been smacked by it a long time ago. Your closest thing, which occasionally works against the most flagrant IoT ones is consumer protection law, but that doesn't work perfectly and Microsoft won't meet the criteria to be punished by it.
Indeed and what law could there be?
After all, MS are not removing your PCs from you, they are not rendering them inoperable, they are not forcing you to landfill them, they are simply ending support for an OS which started out ten years ago
They will work just as well on 16th. October just as well as they did on 14th. no more no less.So any sort of consumer protection laws can’t apply here, as you rightly say. So I can’t see any legal argument going anywhere..
Now it is certainly arguable that MS have set unnecessarily onerous and seemingly arbitrary hardware requirements for W11, maybe? But again. not really actionable is it?
So hypothetically, if you are running a W10 machine which can’t or won’t update* then what’s the problem? Well I’ll answer my own question, it’s legal compliance isn’t it? Does your regulator or insurer require that ‘all of your devices are running a currently supported Operating System’? Honestly answer ‘no’ and kiss farewell to being in compliance with said regulator and, if the worse happens, your insurer paying out.
Honestly for home users, I’d forget the warnings, your PC isn’t going to self destruct on Oct 15th, it's not going to delete all of your stored ‘cat videos’. Large, enterprise corporations probably refresh their machines every three years or so anyway, so probably not an issue for them. It’s the SMSs, 10,50,100 seat setups who don’t have the funding to replace machines but are still beholden to regulators.
Just today, I have dealt with such an issue, I work for a service provider and as such we have to be compliant at least with the Cyber Security Essentials requirement, because our clients insist on it - fine.
We have one PC which does nothing other than run a web browser displaying the output from out network monitoring software (which incidentally runs on Linux), it’s running W10 and can’t be updated to W11, so I blew it away and installed Ubuntu 24.02 on it, and now I can, hand on heart say we are only running supported operating systems!
* There are, of course, well known methods of getting around this, to some extent, depending on how much effort you are prepared to out in.
"Security updates" are not a mandatory requirement, even though most people think of them as such. If you're really concerned that you might get hacked/ransomwared at some point, there is nothing stopping you from keeping regular OS image backups, and only doing your sensitive/financial tasks on a 2nd PC with the latest security updates.
1) Older browser versions work; they are not cut off from the internet when a new version comes out. Security certificates eventually expire, but that won't be until 2038 at the earliest.
2) There exist open-source forks to Chromium and Firefox that restore Windows 7 support to the most recent versions and codebases of the browsers.
Yes indeed. And WinXP32 SP3 + firefox has only just become more unusable on the net in the last couple of years. Some sites, like this one, don't seem to mind it.
Windows has been dead in the water since Win8 appeared in my opinion. Linux has taken far too long to get its act together. I've tried several times over the years to replace Windows with Linux but each time there's been fundamental issues surrounding stability that prevented me adopting it. Some of those issue were so bad, usually it taking out the machine completely, that it was sadly unsuable. I know folk here won't like me saying it, but WinXP32 has been far more stable than any version of Linux tried so far. It galls me to say that, but from my experiementation on several machines, it's true. I run a heavily moddified copy of XP that was built from Fred Vorck's work and later NTLite. Up time is measured in years. It runs like the clappers on a SSD. It makes the modern OSs I've seen so far look like they are laggy and buggy.
But... at last there is hope..... My recent foray into Arch Linux has been successful. Ubuntu crashed on reboot after installation due the wifi card merely being 'present'. Debian turned the machine off merely by playing a news video. Arch has had quite a few problems but the key difference has been that they have been surmountable. All the basocs are there now and it even likes my old HP Laserjet printer. Arch's online documentation is excellent. It's all I've wanted for years...a stable system that gets all the basics right and doesn't have great loads of guff embedded in it.
I stand by my comment on a recent previous thread quoting market shares: completely inappropriate use of significant digits/decimal places implying high precision when in fact accuracy is more likely to be +/- 10% or worse, which completely negates the spin that is being put on this.
I think most of the users of El Reg understand the basics of scientific method and statistics, so please, do us a favour, and stop parroting this nonsense and apply a modicum of intellectual common sense!
By all means say this is likely higher than the last such survey, but static/decline is still within the margins of error - that is all you can say about these figures.
No, really, well done on threatening, coercing and browbeating your customer base.
You've finally made it. Win 11 is top of the shit pile. Have yourselves a pint.
I would ask you to think about the difference when Win 3.11 blew away Win 3.0, or when Win 95 took the world by storm and you didn't need to lift a finger, but a clearly way beyond that point of caring.
So, keep wielding that whip. You obviously attain your goal, one day or another . . .
Not just because October is EOL, but because that's when the executives return from vacation and can start signing purchase orders.
I lost count of the number of companies I worked at that spent the summer queuing up tech rollouts, only to have them sit on loading docks for weeks or months because every single required signature was on vacation.
Of course, the companies that don't make the deadline, because executives kept stalling, only bothered to look at it now, and are shocked that a company with 100,000 seats can't be upgraded on two weeks notice, will be paying Microsoft for Windows 10 extended support.
I worked at a company once where the Windows 8 to Windows 10 migration planning was held up by the fact that the company was still in the process of migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7. It was particularly troublesome because they discovered that 80% of the PCs in the company didn't meet Windows 7 minimum requirements.
But no worries, IT assured upper management it would be fine, and they could switch to Windows 10, no worries.
As for Windows 11, I think a lot of companies are waiting for the "turn off all that AI garbage first before we install it" version before switching...
"But no worries, IT assured upper management it would be fine, and they could switch to Windows 10, no worries.”
Now at first I thought, wow, this company had a particularly incompetent IT department, but then I reconsidered, they may have had perfectly competent IT staff, but an incompetent IT manager/director who told upper management just what they wanted to hear.
Annoying, but true.
"I just went through this, but for last year. Budget sign off needed last autumn, sign off not completed until November, deployment not actually started until February.”
Fine but when inevitably there is a massive investigation into why XYZ didn’t happen on schedule, and they are looking around for people to blame, you do have a paper trail.
Ideally one that shows that the root cause of the delay was that the CEO couldn't be bothered to sign off on something for six months.
Sorry folks, it was me.
We've got 12 Wintel PCs in the house, and I finally upgraded the only one that can support Windows 11 to it, from Windows 10. And I cheekily installed Win 11 on a Raspberry Pi 5 and my Pi 400 using Botspot VM too. So that's 3 Win 11 instances.
10 of the remaining 11 PCs will stay on Win 10 as they don't meet the hardware requirements. The other PC (from 2005!) already runs Linux, as do my fleet of Raspberry Pis.
Sadly for Micro$oft and PC makers, I won't be replacing any of the Win 10 PCs any time soon, and even if I do, the replacements might not be Wintel PCs.
So I can buy at least another year of Windows 10 security (hopefully more, I'm running 10 Pro)
Then accelerate my transition to FreeBSD; this browsing box has already run it for a few years, now need to do it for my main system that runs games and other items. May involve some Linux and Windows VMs until WINE under FreeBSD catches up.
Also, unless I want my Windows Mixed Reality headset to turn into a brick I *have* to keep on running 10.
My other VR headsets (Rift CV1, PSVR2) are really unlikely to work well under any Unix any time soon, so I may unfortunately have to compromise with my lounge couch gaming PC.
I still have my summer vacations to fiddle with the one Mint power management issue (or whatever it is) I still have, so I guess October is a reasonable estimate of when my Windows 10 disappears from the stats and helps 11 take a bigger lead over 10.
It's not all rainbows and penguins, but all the functionality I want seems to be present and accounted for
when you've been forcing yourselves on people without consent, in other areas that gets you, quite rightly, put in prison.
Considering we had our old deployment system attempt to block Windows 11 from being pushed out, but each month it started to fail, why? Because the cunts at Microsoft kept changing the patch name and eventually hiding that it was related to Windows 11, making it almost impossible to block. THAT is the only reason you've over taken Windows 10. Because your the arsehole that forces himself on everyone without consent.
And Windows 11, fucking give me back small icons for the taskbar you fuck whits.
Well... they are forcing Windows 11 upgrades down people's throats. Eventually some diligent dumbass is going to accept the update, or get tricked into it.
I got a call from my father a few weeks ago saying his computer is all changed around. "Oh no!" (I knew immediately what happened). I went right away while I could still revert it without too much upset, but it still broke some applications afterward that needed repairing/resetting. It won't happen again... I set a policy to keep that computer on their current build of Windows 10.
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