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NASA is exploring the properties of a metal alloy that shrinks as it is heated, as boffins in its Astrophysics Division think it may be needed if the planned Habitable Worlds Observatory (HWO) is to succeed. Readers doubtless know that metals expand when heated. As explained in a NASA blog post that’s a problem for space …

  1. Mishak Silver badge

    A new way to solve an old problem?

    Pendulum clocks use a similar technique (with +ve temperature co-efficient materials) to stop temperature changes from altering the rate at which the pendulum swings.

    1. Evil Auditor Silver badge
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      Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

      Indeed, just with much higher requirements for stability than any pendulum clock probably ever had.

      1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

        Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

        True, but some pendulum clocks were far better than most folks imagine:

        http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/clock-powers-of-ten-tvb.pdf

    2. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

      Had a vision of the HBO launching in a finely carved teak longcase, with mahogany and walnut details.

      The next step on from the Japanese LignoSat.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

        Bob Shaw got there first

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

          The ghost of Brian Aldiss would like a quiet word about going the all-natural route to arboreal orbiters.

          Can somebody shush those norn? No, Skuld, Yggdrasil isn't in orbit, that's why. Yes, yes, you can climb it to reach the heavens. Look, I think we may be getting off topic here, just go and stop Ratatoskr burying another asteroid, please.

        2. Paul Herber Silver badge

          Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

          I was expecting a video on TikTok.

        3. LybsterRoy Silver badge

          Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

          and how about

          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucible-Time-John-Brunner-ebook/dp/B007PR3224?crid=1TJX3H6PD41XY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.g1CBtj6FRNEJi4tMs5hRTxJbr0erWXdJwRi8CnAdPvk.WhZyMQozwpkbah1Y0CwG_NT8HlSD1G9YPpDb3XZ_OE4&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Crucible+Of+Time+-+John+Brunner&qid=1751527538&sprefix=the+crucible+of+time+-+john+brunner%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-1

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

        "aunching in a finely carved teak longcase, with mahogany and walnut details."

        No problem with those being launched. Just leave antique oak, walnut or mahogany clocks alone.

      3. David 132 Silver badge
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        Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

        It would need to have enough power to escapement Earth’s gravity.

    3. HuBo Silver badge
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      Re: A new way to solve an old problem?

      Yeah, I was surprised to see the pendulum wall clock here speed up some during this heatwave that is so hot French folks are cooking eggs unassisted, in 30 minutes flat, in schoolyards (80+ degrees C), breaking the previous record from 2022 when it took 2 hours on a park bench (with T = 57 C) ... (good thing they closed the Eiffel Tower!)

      It seems the wooden pendulum rod helps a bit. Interestingly, "As wood experiences an increase in temperature, it may experience some thermal expansion, but there is also a loss of [Moisture Content ...] the net result is shrinkage", which would explain the slight speedup.

  2. SnailFerrous

    The Allvar name looks to be a riff on Invar, an alloy with an unusually low, but still slightly positive coefficient of thermal expansion that has been around since the 19th century. Often used in situations where making something temperature insensitive is important. Though not as important as in an exoplanet hunting space telescope.

  3. jake Silver badge

    “ALLVAR developed washers and spacers are now commercially available to maintain consistent preloads across extreme temperature ranges in both space and terrestrial environments.”

    Does it work in high stress environments? If so, I can see several uses for it in high performance engines.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      They have ways around the expansion problem anyway. Formula 1 engines have to be pre-heated to run.

      1. flayman

        While that's true, what this would also mean is that cylinders and pistons for commercial engines (which are not preheated) could be manufactured to much tighter tolerances. This would increase the compression ratio, potentially very significantly.

        1. jake Silver badge

          The compression ratio is the (usually) fixed ratio between the maximum and minimum volume of a combustion chamber. Dimensionally stable components will have little to no effect on compression ratio. I was thinking more about rod-bolt stretch, crank thrust bearing preloads, and various bits in the valve train, all of which have a big say in the maximum RPM of a given motor (you don't want the thing rattling itself into oblivion ...).

          1. flayman

            The mixture will compress more when the clearance is tighter because less of it will escape. This would allow smaller engines to produce greater torque. Engines can be smaller and lighter and consume less fuel.

            1. jake Silver badge

              Piston rings are multi-function beasties. They serve to transfer heat from the piston to the cylinder, to keep the proper oil film between piston and cylinder (both for lubrication, and scraping excess to prevent oil consumption by burning), and to minimize blow-by.

              As such, they need to change size as the engine cycles through heat ranges in order to minimize over-all wear and tear. There is no one-size-fits-all for a typical start/run/stop cycle, rather they change dynamically during the run.

              Also, I seriously doubt that a titanium alloy such as ALLVAR would have the mechanical characteristics required of a piston ring.

              Edit: Also, I just discovered that ALLVAR's thermal transfer capability is quite low (it is a titanium alloy, after all ... ), and its maximum operating temperature is only 100C (212F), making it completely unsuitable for most internal engine components. See this spec sheet:

              https://allvaralloys.com/what-is-negative-thermal-expansion/

              1. flayman

                That would appear to be the end of it.

      2. jake Silver badge

        During the meanwhile, in the RealWorld ...

  4. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge
    Joke

    Does this "alloy" involve maybe hydrogen, oxygen, and not much else...?

  5. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Silo

    This is cute. We spent hundreds of thousands of years learning how to sharpen rocks, then a few short decades later we’re inventing metal that shrinks when heated so we can squint at distant planets through billion-to-one contrast ratios… all just to realise we’re still trapped on a glorified space prison with no exit strategy.

    Even if we do manage to escape Terra, where exactly are we going? Another rock with a thinner atmosphere and no coffee? And let’s be honest: if we ever get close to leaving, the people in charge will simply bolt the hatch and remind us that the shareholders prefer us firmly grounded.

    Still, neat washers.

    1. herman Silver badge

      Re: Silo

      Yup, this prison planet we are on was well chosen. Somebody really, really did not like our species.

    2. Andrew Scott Bronze badge

      Re: Silo

      doesn't plutonium shrink when heated?

  6. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

    Why is the acronym for Habitable Worlds Observatory HBO?

    1. Sp1z

      Habitable Bodies Observatory?

      1. Earle M

        Just a typo that's been corrected.

  7. Mark Exclamation

    Don't worry, all this research will soon be abandoned, to be replaced by a priest.

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