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The free graphics format that people actually know how to pronounce has been updated. The World Wide Web consortium has announced the third edition of the specification for the Portable Network Graphics format – or PNG, pronounced "ping", for short. The chair of the W3C working group in charge of PNG, Chris Blume, has a …

  1. beast666 Silver badge

    It's pronounced pee-en-gee.

    1. Wokstation

      Are you sure? I thought it was "ping"!

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Happy

        It's actually pronounced p'NuGuh in the Old Tongue, but that tends to accidentally summon eldritch horrors (it's a known bug in the standard.)

        1. Fara82Light

          Actually, I think that is the p-Celtic pronunciation.

          1. breakfast Silver badge

            That depends on context and whether graphics files are masculine or feminine, but in different situations it would be bng, phng or mhng, although the last of those would usually be in the context of it belonging to the speaker so it would be framed more like "ymh mhng i" which isn't far off at all.

            1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
              Headmaster

              Wait - is that the Celtic or the Qwghlmian version?

        2. find users who cut cat tail
          Pint

          Glad to learn my native language is Old Tongue (from the Age of Legends?).

          PNG is pronounced something like p(ə)n(ə)g(ə) around here. Difficult to describe if you are not used to words formed only by consonants.

        3. SnailFerrous

          Summoning eldritch horrors from beyond the stars was always a feature, not a bug.

    2. b0llchit Silver badge
      Coat

      And it means Pee-Next-Generation. Or, also known as, watering the future. Picture that!

    3. Gene Cash Silver badge

      I pronounce it "that thar compewta cat picture thang" because I'm in the American South...

    4. zimzam

      The P is silent.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Hasn't that -ing image downloaded yet?

      2. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        > The P is silent.

        As in "bath"?

        1. PerlyKing
          Joke

          Re: The P is silent

          > As in "bath"?

          Rick: Hi, I'm Rick!

          Vyvyan: With a silent "P".

      3. LionelB Silver badge

        That's correct. It's pronounced like the well-known Chinese name.

        (In some dialects the 'G' may be silent too.)

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    6. I am the liquor Silver badge

      If the "P" is "Portable", then surely "pong". Or "porng".

    7. AbortRetryFail

      Indeed. I have literally never heard a pee-en-gee referred to as a "ping". Maybe it's an American thing?

    8. paulmwatson

      I assumed "that people actually know how to pronounce " was bait because I also don't pronounce it ping.

  2. Andy Non Silver badge
    Facepalm

    What the web needs

    is more animated images trying to grab your attention. Sheesh!

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: What the web needs

      <blink>Punch the monkey and WIN!!!!</blink>

    2. Mage Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: What the web needs

      Multiple-image Network Graphics (MNG) is a graphics file format published in 2001 for animated images. Its specification is publicly documented and there are free software reference implementations available.

      Multiple-image Network Graphics (MNG) format (Wikipedia)

      MNG is closely related to the PNG image format.

      I've been using it for years. Sometimes as part of a PDF resize/image depth/crop workflow: PDF -> The GIMP as Layers -> export MNG -> convert to PDF.

      So is this a revision of PNG or MNG?

      1. Sir Sham Cad

        Re: What the web needs

        Is obviously a merciless file format pronounced "ming"

      2. Mage Silver badge

        Re:MNG issues

        Google was / is the biggest problem as they never supported MNG,

        Mozilla is stupid, so removed support, then added the dumber APNG (that I've never seen used).

        The Internet browsers are not the only way images are used or shown.

        1. Sir Sham Cad

          Re: Re:MNG issues

          Don't get me started on .webp

          *shakes fist at cloud, mostly google cloud*

  3. mark l 2 Silver badge

    PNG is that old that I remember getting the datatype for it from an Amiga magazine coverdisk when it came out so I could open PNG images on my Amiga in multiview. Simpler times but in many ways so much better than what we have now.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Pint

      Ah, thanks for reminding me of Multiview (and associated Proustian recollections of Lemmings, Alien Breed, OctaMED, TBClock, and so on...)

      In a related rant, it's always irked me that if I drag a file into a Windows file dialog, the OS copies that file to the location shown by the dialog.

      Whereas on the Amiga, dragging a file into a file dialog would set the value of the dialog to the directory & name of that file.

      Which to my mind - maybe I'm weird? - seems more logical.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge

        Mac file dialogs work that way too (like Amiga).

        Back to off-topic, Datatypes are great aren't they? Just drag the new PNG datatype into a system directory and all Datatype aware image software will recognise the new format.

        But that's an old OS and now we have modern OSes which are much better... oh.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      It was developed almost exclusively once Unisys started to assert its rights over GIF and demand licence fees for creating the files. It went beyond GIFs 8-bit colour limit, but the main improvement was a proper alpha channel. For anyone involved in websites there was a brief scuffle over whether to stick with GIF or switch to PNG, but fortunately the surprisingly quick browser format for the new format meant that it was all over in a year or two.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        They thought it was all over...

        "it was all over in a year or two"

        Except for the animated GIF.

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: They thought it was all over...

          Right, but for these weren't relevant for most websites and thus content production chains. Things could have become a lot more expensive if they hadn't been a more or less concerted move from GIF to PNG. There were themselves increasingly replaced by full-blown video, but made a come back in the meme-obsessed social media. But by the all patents had expired, though many of the copyrights hadn't.

  4. Ken Hagan Gold badge

    A bit of a stretch to say "22 years on from the last spec, you can now animate your PNGs".

    Animated images were part of the original design, but animation just wasn't felt to be very important so MNG didn't get the love. (Presumably internet users were more focussed on actual content back then rather than shiny things.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-image_Network_Graphics

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      They're - rightfully - have been described as MINGing.

  5. Alan J. Wylie

    Lenna

    I do like that the image that goes with this article on the Latest News page subtly references the "Lenna" image that started it all.

    1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: Lenna

      As it's now moved out of the latest and therefore doesn't show the image...

      it's referenced in the "og:image" meta tag.

      https://regmedia.co.uk/2025/06/26/shutterstock_png.jpg

  6. Altrux

    Still relevant?

    Is PNG still relevant or is it largely supplanted by WEBP and AVIF, these days? Are there any scenarios where it still has an advantage (apart from universal support, but really almost anything supports the newer formats these days)?

    1. kmorwath

      Re: Still relevant?

      Yes, what the world needs is another Google standard. Then people complain about Office file formats...

    2. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Still relevant?

      PNG is still very much relevant. Tends not to be used on the web as much due to size, but a lot of people use it for printing as it supports transparencies.

      1. David 132 Silver badge

        Re: Still relevant?

        Also very good for embedded graphical bitmap resources in software. I use it a lot in my software projects when I CBA to use a scaled vector format. PNG's Alpha-channel transparency works much better than a GIF.

      2. Altrux

        Re: Still relevant?

        And so do the new formats, whilst offering much better compression, with a choice of lossy or lossless. Why would anyone go back to PNG or JPG now?

        1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
          Windows

          Re: Still relevant?

          Oi. PNG is a "new" format. It must be because it was invented within my lifetime.

          I still remember hand-carving BMP files out of granite with nothing but a rusty fork.

          Now get off my lawn.

          1. johnck

            Re: Still relevant?

            Rusty fork... rusty fork, you was lucky. Back in my day working down mill we had to use a spoon, and a wooden one at that... Rusty fork luxury

            1. Androgynous Cow Herd Silver badge

              Re: Still relevant?

              A WOODEN SPOON? oh, how la-de-dah!!

              We had to get by with an exposed knuckle bone in our index finger, scratching the images into blocks of compressed sand and hoping it didn't rain before it could be rendered.

        2. Charlie Clark Silver badge
          Stop

          Re: Still relevant?

          PNG is often more suitable for non-photographic bitmaps. Compression by colour reduction makes them great for sprites.

          As for the newer formats: they're still struggling to establish themselves because of the need for backward compatiblity. I pushed for WebP when it became generally available because it made much smaller files than JPEG at a time when browsers didn't use many parallel connections and bandwidth was scarcer. However, as at the time neither Internet Explorer nor Safari supported it, JPEGs also had to be offered. So, you either had to do more work to cover all bases, or stick with what was bound to work. Even now CMS support for anything other than JPEG, which has seen some improvements, is nothing like as good as it should be.

      3. IamAProton

        Re: Still relevant?

        JPG Lossy, good for "natural images"

        PNG Lossless, high compression for 'artificial' images.

        Jpg sucks for images with clean shapes, eg a chessboard.

    3. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: Still relevant?

      > Is PNG still relevant or is it largely supplanted by WEBP...

      For a start, if you'd like to be certain that your image has been losslessly compressed, PNG gives you that assurance, just by being a PNG. Good luck finding out if that WEBP image you are about to right-click-save will be written out lossless, lossy, a bit of both in the one file.

      (Although too many users don't give a damn anyway, so, yeah, guess only a few of us are interested in knowing that. Heck, I lost the fight over whether an entire company's procedure flowcharts should be written out in PNG - yes, yes they should - because the chap in charge didn't seem to mind text and line drawings saved as JPEGs - all blurry from the ringing - and changing his default format or choosing to "save as..." was too much trouble. Needn't have been PNG, really, one-bit RLE would have done the job better. Maybe he should've been prescribed glasses, like all his colleagues who were trying to figure out why his presentations never appeared to be in focus; cue much specs cleaning.)

    4. nobody who matters Silver badge

      Re: Still relevant?

      <......."Is PNG still relevant or is it largely supplanted by WEBP.......".......>

      I would say almost everything is more relevant than WEBP, which frankly I consider to be a POS.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Still relevant?

        Why is WEBP a POS?

        1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

          Re: Still relevant?

          He only asked a question!

  7. steelpillow Silver badge
    Devil

    Oh, fuck

    Now I'm going to have to find another image format to espouse.

  8. Fara82Light

    Pronunciation ...

    That's odd; we have always pronounced it "Pang!".

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Re: Pronunciation ...

      !.png

      Pronounced "pling dot ping", not "bang dot pang"

      But "shriek dot p'ng" is allowed, but only gutturally, with an echo as from a thousand souls in tormented joy from the presence of the many-angled ones.

      1. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

        Re: Pronunciation ...

        Definitely 'shriek' if you are an old George 3 user.

  9. darkhog

    LOL

    You do realize APNG was a thing for at least a decade?

    1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: LOL

      > You do realize APNG was a thing for at least a decade?

      You do realise I linked to Mozilla's page proposing it?

      Yes. But it was not part of the standard, until now.

  10. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    Pee En Gee.

  11. The Central Scrutinizer Silver badge

    PNG is definitely a relevant format, especially the 16 but variant with alpha channel when you are compositing. High bit depth for lots of colour information and lossless compression make for a very usable format.

    1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

      -- 16 but variant --

      Shouldn't there be two tees in but?

    2. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      Worth pointing out that along with various new tags for HDR color, the new PNG supports 32-bit color - more than enough bit-depth for anything.

  12. Roopee Silver badge
    FAIL

    Fireworks

    Sorry Liam, I’ve been using PNG since at least ~2002, when I bought Macromedia Fireworks which uses PNG as its native format, and it has never once occurred to me to pronounce it “ping”!

    Incidentally Fireworks was much better at creating and manipulating complex text than the contemporaneous Adobe Photoshop (?4) so I decided to use it for my advertising graphics. Guess which app Adobe chose to can when they bought Macomedia... all they were interested in was Flash. I was so annoyed, I wanted the bugs in Fireworks fixed!

    1. Androgynous Cow Herd Silver badge

      Re: Fireworks

      RIP Fireworks!

      Yup - too good for its own good! Why have one graphics program that can handle raster or vector graphics when you could have two (Photoshop&Illustrator), neither one working nearly as well?

  13. RAMChYLD Bronze badge

    APNG?

    I thought we already had that, it's called MNGs.

    1. MarkMLl

      Re: APNG?

      No, MNG is something different entirely: as you'd see if you took the trouble to check Wikipedia before posting.

      The problem appears to be that MNG is "all singing, all dancing" with relatively large files and a complex decoder as a result. APNG is generally simpler, and has the advantage that a decoder that doesn't understand it as a PNG extension will still display the first frame.

      In any event, the belated endorsement of APNG has to be applauded since it will hopefully avoid further duplication of effort.

  14. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
    Trollface

    "the Portable Network Graphics format – or PNG, pronounced "ping", for short."

    Nope. There's no "i" between the P and N.

    POrtable Network Graphics. PONG. It's pronounced "pong"

    pong file included for reference -->

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Pornegra?

    Once animated PNG become fair common and supplants animated gifs, all the naughty sites will start using the format for their galleries.

    Portable Network Graphics by analogy with Viagra which blighted the world or a least the planet's spam traps about the time of PNG's advent.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
      Childcatcher

      Re: Pornegra?

      Excuse me? Is there porn on the internet? I never realised... This must be stopped at once!

      ai Ph'Nu'Gh mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

      Cower mortals! For I have summoned Mary Whitehouse from the crypt where she lies, dead but dreaming! She will cleanse the internet with unholy fire!

      Think of the children! No! Not in that way, you dirty beast!

  16. frankyunderwood123

    Webp is rapidly becoming the standard

    It remains to be seen whether this PNG update makes any kind of difference at all.

    I doubt it.

    GIF is still the goto for bitmap animation and probably always will be.

    Who would’ve thought that in 2025 it was not only alive and kicking but bigger than ever before?

    Webp is the choice for everything else if you can stomach that it’s a google release.

    It does animation too, not that I can recall seeing it used in practice.

    I reckon PNG will be pretty much dead in a few years.

    GIF however will live on.

    1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

      Re: Webp is rapidly becoming the standard

      PNG would have killed GIF if it had animation from the get-go.

      That was a terrible omission in my opinion

      1. Grumpy Fellow
        Go

        Re: Webp is rapidly becoming the standard

        In my opinion, no file spec is complete until it can run Doom.

    2. DoContra

      Re: Webp is rapidly becoming the standard

      If you frequent meme pages/boards and/or "gif hosts", most "gifs" nowadays are actually .webp or straight up MPEG-4 video ("DivX")/x.264 with no audio track. Said pages will still serve .gif files if coaxed, but will prefer nearly anything else first.

      APNG has pretty much been killed dead by Chromium refusing to implement the standard. I doubt there will be a resurgence, but I hope I'm wrong as back in the day it was much smoother than .gif.

  17. Mockup1974

    Nobody likes or wants to use WEBP and AVIF and they're not very good at lossy or lossless compression, respectively. JPEG XL seems to be the "ultimate" format which performs best in most scenarios and has all the features anyone might ever need, including lossless compression of existing JPEGs. But Google wants it dead and so we can't have nice things.

    So it looks like we'll have PNG and JPEG around for another 50 years.

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