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NASA is struggling to meet all the goals of its Planetary Defense Strategy and Action Plan, the effort that aims to prevent humanity being wiped out by space rocks that hit Earth. The aerospace agency’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) audited the Planetary Defense plan and on Tuesday published the findings, which include …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Planetary defense?

    Why are we paying to defend other countries?

    NASA only has to stop giant space rocks that are going to hit America Red States

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Planetary defense?

      "Why are we paying to defend other countries?"

      Depending on the size of the impactor, the country it lands on may make no difference. Obviously, if I finished up embedded in downtown Los Angeles, that would be bad for the US in more ways than if Tokyo was it's final destination. Either way, there could be weather and even earthquake events that would do bad things to the US as well as the country being called on to provide aid at the same time.

      I wonder if any scientists have worked out what might happen if a medium sized meteor hit close to the San Andreas fault in California or Yellowstone super volcano. I've been to meteor crater in Arizona and could see how the land is puckered from quite a distance off and that wasn't an especially large rock. I need to find the photos and finally stitch together the HDR pano I captured.

      1. DS999 Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Planetary defense?

        Whoosh

        1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

          Indeed, but the OP could have used the troll icon.

          I know I would have.

        2. Headley_Grange Silver badge

          Re: Planetary defense?

          Whoosh? Any fule no that rockets don't make a sound in space.

      2. Eclectic Man Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: Planetary defense?

        A large object impacting the South Pole and shoving all that Antarctic ice onto the sea would raise sea levels by an enormous amount. About 58 metres globally according to:

        https://sealevel.nasa.gov/news/266/how-ice-shelf-loss-drives-sea-level-rise/#:~:text=The%20answer%3A%20The%20Antarctic%20ice,billion%20metric%20tons%20of%20ice.

        That would totally destroy every coastal city and inundate vast areas inland (check out the coastal 50 metre contour line for your nation).

        In addition the movement of so much water from the pole to the equator would actually have a noticeable effect on the rotation of the planet.

        Fingers crossed,

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Planetary defense?

          An asteroid the size of Belgium, unfortunately it's impossible to guarantee it will hit Belgium

        2. Headley_Grange Silver badge

          Re: Planetary defense?

          "check out the coastal 50 metre contour line for your nation."

          Or.....

          https://www.floodmap.net/#

          1. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
            Unhappy

            Re: Planetary defense?

            Dammit! I need 370m before we become ocean front property. Hope those space rocks are mostly ice. Lots and lots of ice.

        3. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Planetary defense?

          "That would totally destroy every coastal city and inundate vast areas inland (check out the coastal 50 metre contour line for your nation)."

          That's only the first effect. If you lived not much further inland and up a few meters from the high tide line, you may wind up with loads of new friends interested in what's in your larder, where your car keys are and if you have anything that would be readily tradable for further supplies. Booze might be useful for that. For more information, read "Lucifer's Hammer" by Niven and Pournelle.

        4. DS999 Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: Planetary defense?

          Fingers crossed,

          That it happens, or that it doesn't?

    2. Rafael #872397 Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Planetary defense?

      Is it too late to build a space wall? Make the aliens pay for it!

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      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Planetary defense?

        So are the aliens in Area51 considered 'undocumented'?

        1. Casca Silver badge

          Re: Planetary defense?

          I hope they are documented both inside and out. And probed.

  2. Vader

    Before a big space rock hits the planet we will have wiped ourselves out by ourselves.

  3. Pete 2 Silver badge

    The good news is ...

    if civilisation (and America) is wiped out by a space rock - detected or unseen, there won't be many people left to point the finger at NASA

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: The good news is ...

      I promise you when the Trump regime emerges from their nuclear shelters they will blame anyone but themselves.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: The good news is ...

        They won't go in because Trump will deny it is going to hit and say "fake news" to anyone who contradicts him.

        The guy didn't even try to protect himself from covid even though he was at an age/weight making him among the most vulnerable. If he'd been infected a month earlier, before the experimental monoclonal antibodies were available and before steroids were known to help he would have died. As it is after he received those treatments he was less than an hour away from being placed on a ventilator before he started to recover.

        Its too bad it is named the Herman Cain award rather than the Donald J Trump award.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The Dynamic Duo to the Planet's Rescue?

    "single employee ... with help from just one contractor"

    A discount Batman and Robin on a clapped out space e-scooter toddling off to combat an imminent NEO threat.

    Gotham City was saner, having a more effectual police commissioner than the US has in its leaders or policies.

  5. Headley_Grange Silver badge

    PDSAP

    I reckon it's because programmes with acronyms do better than those with plain old abbreviations.

  6. Tron Silver badge

    Slight concern.

    Are they suggesting that this department needs more skilled scientists and resources, or are they suggesting that it needs more managers to tick boxes and co-ordinate with other managers on the co-ordinated ticking of boxes?

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Slight concern.

      No reason to be concerned at all. OIG reports are usually high quality because no-one with the power to do anything pays them the slightest bit of attention. On the other hand if the OIG recommended increasing the budget to $2B/year divided between the popular contractors in 50 states then Ted Cruz would be lobbying for it right now.

    2. Headley_Grange Silver badge

      Re: Slight concern.

      I suspect that when applying for or managing government funding there is a lot of box ticking, form filling, coordination meetings and other tedious admin and I suspect that some of it might be almost as difficult as rocket engineering. You wouldn't want the scientists and engineers grappling with all that instead of doing the jobs they're qualifed for.

    3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Slight concern.

      >Are they suggesting that this department needs more skilled scientists

      I thought we used prayer now? If the solution to rocks from heaven is to avoid annoying G*d

      1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: Slight concern.

        Nooooooo... that space rock is stuffed with valuable metals... if we let it land , then we'll all become rich.

        1. Gene Cash Silver badge

          Re: Slight concern.

          There's some blokes from Sudbury, Ontario on the line for you...

          "The ore deposits in Sudbury are part of a large geological structure known as the Sudbury Basin, which are the remnants of a nearly two billion-year-old impact crater"

          "The Frood Mine alone accounted for 40 percent of all the nickel used in Allied artillery production during the [second world] war"

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Slight concern.

        "If the solution to rocks from heaven is to avoid annoying G*d"

        or god-like aliens.

        "Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled"

  7. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    I suppose after a big one lands then the extra funding needed to prevent another will be available in principle but in reality it will be hard to raise it.

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