back to article Japan set to join the re-usable rocket club after Honda sticks a landing

Japanese automotive giant Honda has successfully launched and landed a small rocket. Honda operates an R&D unit that pursues space technology and, in 2021, announced its intention to build and fly a re-usable rocket. The company developed a rocket engine and, since 2024, has conducted ignition and hovering tests. That work …

  1. jamesdagger

    Wait

    For the VTEC to kick in yo!

  2. Too old for this sh*t
    Happy

    Bound to work, it's a Honda

    1. Andy Non Silver badge
      Happy

      Now that's a Honda engine I'd like to put on two wheels! :-)

      (Though, got a feeling Wile e Coyote beat me to it)

  3. Zack Mollusc

    As useless as Starship!

    Just like Evil Stupid Musk's Starship, this is an embarrassing failure.

    1. Utterly failed to achieve orbit.

    2. Utterly failed to take any crew into space.

    3. Wasted trillions of U.S taxpayer dollars.

    4. Utterly failed to colonise Mars

    5. Doesn't bring anything new to science, rockets are an old technology which have been in use for over a century.

    6. etc

    1. Mishak Silver badge

      rockets are an old technology

      You have seen and compared the Raptor 3 engine to the F1, right?

      I guess you would have said the same when the first internal combustion engine was developed and someone tried to improve on it.

    2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Wasted triilions in U.S. taxpayer dollars

      If congress believed that they would have no reason to fight for SLS.

    3. Sp1z

      Re: As useless as Starship!

      Are you that braindead that you can't separate SpaceX from Musk?

      Yes he owns it or whatever, but the amazing work by the engineers and technicians at SpaceX shouldn't be sullied just because it has that cunts name against it.

    4. alisonken1
      Trollface

      Re: As useless as Starship!

      I upvoted on the assumption that this was a snarky comparison to all of the hate directed at SH/SS.

      1. Zack Mollusc

        Re: As useless as Starship!

        Bingo! Your assumptometer is functioning correctly.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: As useless as Starship!

      Thank God! If humans ever developed warp drive or its equivalent (like Immaterium, Jump & Improbability drives), we'd have to exterminate the human race, given what a bunch of crazies humans are. Unfit for company & all that.

      Given that 96% of land mammals on Earth are humans and their food animals, the stench if we did that would be overwhelming.

      But the wild animal predators would have good eating for a short while.

      1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

        Re: As useless as Starship!

        Improbability drive? What a silly thing. . . hold it. . . there seems to be an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to me about this script for Hamlet they've worked out.

  4. Francis Boyle

    I also

    frequently fart when I sit down.

    1. Like a badger Silver badge

      Re: I also

      Cushioning thrust is always a good thing. Can you vector your nozzle, and achieve a stable hover?

  5. werdsmith Silver badge

    Such a delicate gentle touch down, impressive that they have that much control over the amount of thrust.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      I was a little concerned at how quickly they released all the unused propellant though. It seemed like the flames had barely gone out when large amounts of gaseous fuel was exhausted directly into the "hot" area. I'm sure they know what they are doing and it was a carefully planed and time dump, but to my untrained eye it looked a bit bum clenching as to whether there was going to be a fireball :-)

  6. Del Varner

    Mischaracterization of Honda

    While Honda does make outstanding automobiles, it is a mischaracterization that they are just an automaker. What Honda is really about is engines.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Mischaracterization of Honda

      Wait until The Reg finds out about the little car company called Hyundai.

  7. Mythical Ham-Lunch

    Question is what kind of aftermarket exhaust upgrades are available?

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
      Mushroom

      The kind that make it EVEN LOUDER, of course!

  8. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Joke

    Suborbital missions

    Ah, I see that Honda is trying to corner the coveted reusable ballistic missile market.

  9. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    IT Angle

    What it is....

    Is big enough to test the control systems which are a key part of making this work.

    Change the parameters in the relevant tables* and hey presto, 6m test vehicle becomes 60m first stage.

    Of course as SX have shown without grid fins this won't have near enough control authority.

    Still it's Honda's money, so their choice.

    *Bit like re-mapping the engine tables on a cars EMU, but with a bit more of an effect.

    1. Jon 37

      Re: What it is....

      This is like a scaled-down version of the Grasshopper tests that SpaceX did back in 2012. Presumably they will scale this up to full size once they have done more testing with this scaled down version.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: What it is....

        Scaled down? Grasshoppers first successful launch and landing reached the staggering altitude of...wait for it...1.8m. That's six feet in "old money"[*]

        * or freedom units, if you prefer ;-)

        1. Jon 37

          Re: What it is....

          According to Wikipedia, Grasshopper was based on a rocket 3.7m diameter and was 32m high. Grasshopper was based on a real Falcon 9 first stage.

          According to the article, Honda's rocket is 0.85m diameter and 6.3m tall. Honda are using a very small rocket, not something you'd use for real launches. It's a scaled down prototype.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: What it is....

            Oh, I see what you mean now. It was a slightly ambiguous sentence. I was thinking scaled down grasshopper TEST, not scaled down Grasshopper :-)

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: What it is....

      I'd say it was a an engine test-bed. I doubt it reached the sort speeds where grid fins would be useful. No point in fitting something useless and adding mass to an initial test-bed.

  10. martinusher Silver badge

    Honda isn't just a car/motorbike/lawnmower powerhouse

    They actually make a rather nice small jet aircraft. Its still a bit pricey for me but then I don't have a commute.

    Many years ago I worked in R&D for a Japanese company. They have a different way of approaching prototypes. Whereas we in the West tend to make prototypes that are early versions of the intended product they made a lot of different prototype products, most of which would never enter production. What they were really making was 'capabilities', exploring different aspects of product design and production and putting the experience aside for later. Then when they decided the market needed a particular product they just reached into their basket of capabilities, grabbed what they needed and made the product. We, the consumer, just got a finished product that rarely had any flaws. What we shipped in the West was really just prototypes -- customers had to put up with stuff being 'not quite right'/. This gave the Japanese quite the competitive edge.

    1. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Re: Honda isn't just a car/motorbike/lawnmower powerhouse

      > What we shipped in the West was really just prototypes

      So the build it fast and ship it mentality? I guess the way you described it in Japan relied on a long return on investment rather than next weeks share price.

      1. munnoch Silver badge

        Re: Honda isn't just a car/motorbike/lawnmower powerhouse

        Cultural values are vastly different in Japan. Any sort of failure, perceived or otherwise, is to be avoided at all costs as it brings shame on the whole organisation. This is both a strength and a weakness. A strength in that you just know that products once launched (sic.) will work and work perfectly and keep working perfectly forever. But its a weakness in the modern move-fast-and-don't-give-a-shit-about-the-consequences world because they are so risk averse that they struggle to stay relevant. Personally I'd rather live in the Honda world but I rather fear that won't be an option before too much longer thanks to the global race to the bottom.

  11. Spherical Cow
    Coat

    What do you call it when you don't reach orbit?

    "While pleased with the success of the test, Honda hasn’t decided to commercialize its rocket tech but has pledged to continue research with the goal of conducting a sub-orbital mission by 2029."

    Technically, they just did a sub-orbital mission. Mission accomplished!

  12. FuzzyTheBear Silver badge
    Pint

    Well done !

    It's great news. A great achievement .. well done Honda. Hope to see and hear more of your rockets soon. Again , well done !

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