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The GNOME Foundation has hired a new executive director to lead the organization, acting as GNOME's public face and leading the non-profit's fundraising efforts. In a post simply titled "Introducing Myself," new boss Steven Deobald does just that. He takes over a tough job from interim executive director Richard Littauer, who …

  1. cornetman Silver badge

    > As a white male...

    You failed to mention the colour of his hair and his eyes. This is obviously extremely important and relevant information.

    And I'm glad we managed to clear up any misunderstanding regarding his chromosomal make up. For the uninitiated, we call this a "man".

    > ...but probably for the wrong reasons (not least his skin color or gender).

    Jesus, what? Didn't you get the memo? White guilt is so passé these days.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

      "White guilt is so passé these days."

      The previous executive director was chased away because she was a woman of a minority religion.

      So being a "white male 'christian'" instead of a female shaman does make a difference.

      You seem to be insensitive to the discrimination of others, but unwilling to contemplate the consequences of your own features.

      In short, not someone who's opinion on discrimination should have any weight.

      1. cornetman Silver badge

        Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

        > The previous executive director was chased away because she was a woman of a minority religion.

        She wasn't "chased away". She was mocked because she claimed to be a "shaman". Just like she would be mocked for claiming to be an alien, a "prophet" or a multitude of things that would evoke more than a titter in public discourse. She must surely have anticipated such a reaction after entering the public sphere, or maybe she lacks sufficient self-awareness?

        The biggest problem in western society is that we have grown *too* tolerant, which is why our societies are rotting from the inside with division. We don't call out bullshit when we see it so minority groups turn our "compassion" against us. The kind of bullshit that gives us gems like "Islam is the religion of peace" and "solar freakin' roadways". I'm not a fan of dog piling: that is an Internet phenomenon that we can do without, but in order to preserve and bolster the rationality which has been the bedrock of western civilisation, we need to start calling out fanciful and idiotic thinking where we see it.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

          "Just like she would be mocked for claiming to be an alien, a "prophet""

          If anything, your words seem to prove me right.

          Shamanism is a religion just like Catholicism or Evangelism. The fact that you don't take other religions seriously is just what is meant with "discrimination".

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            @AC - Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

            Believing in Flying Spaghetti Monster is also a religion. Some are taking it seriously others do not.

            My personal position, keep your religious beliefs within church and/or family. Don't bring them to your working place.

        2. Mike VandeVelde
          Pint

          Re: "mocked"

          I can listen to people talk about their religious beliefs all day long. It's fascinating.

          But when they start mocking other people's religious beliefs I become quite hostile.

          "Of course Jonah survived in the belly of a whale for multiple days and then emerged just fine to tell the tale."

          OK, tell me more, I'm all ears.

          "I believe in Jonah because the Bible tells me so, so it is true."

          OK that's fine, I find it quite interesting and would like to hear more.

          "But I'm not one of those Buddhist idiots who believe in something stupid like reincarnation!"

          We're done, have a dumb life you stupid idiotic dummy goodbye.

          If someone calls themselves a shaman I'd be interested in hearing them tell me more about that.

          If someone else dismisses anyone who calls themselves a shaman, I would have less than zero interest in hearing anything further and would suggest with extreme prejudice an immediate vacating of my vicinity. Cheers!

        3. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

          Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

          > she claimed to be a "shaman". Just like she would be mocked for claiming to be an alien, a "prophet"

          Yeah, no, bollocks to that.

          It is not in any way any more ridiculous than any of the Abrahamic religions.

          Be fair: treat them all equally. They are all silly fairy stories.

          Personally I have far more respect for anyone with the guts to stand up and embrace a weird minority religion than I do for the followers of mainstream religions, who are just lazy in their irrational nonsense.

          And I have nothing but contempt for the adherents of mainstream nonsense that mock niche minority nonsense.

          Mock them all, or don't mock at all.

        4. LionelB Silver badge

          Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

          > She was mocked because she claimed to be a "shaman". Just like she would be mocked for claiming to be an alien, a "prophet" or a multitude of things ...

          But why would you not include, say, rabbi, imam, priest, ... well, basically anyone who claims a privileged mystical status or personal relationship with <insert deity of choice> among those mock-able personages?

      2. Graham Dawson

        Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

        It was nothing to do with her beliefs or gender; she was singularly unqualified for the role. I'm not actually sure how she got it in the first place.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

          "she was singularly unqualified for the role."

          Please, could you give some examples or links. My Google-foo has left me as I only get non-professional criticism and gossip in return of my queries.

      3. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        Re: but probably for the wrong reasons

        > she was a woman of a minority religion.

        Exactly this, and it was ugly to see.

        And then, as now, *I* get harassed merely for pointing this out.

    2. babaganoush

      But being a total twerp apparently is not ...

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The question is...

    Will the new ED bring back some sanity to Gnome? Many of us long for the days of Gnome 2 when it was easy to use and tweak. Since Gnome 3? it has IMHO, become a total POS. I've moved away from it to XFCE, simply because you end up chasing your tail just to tweak something simple. KDE is IMHO just as bad.

    1. lnLog

      Re: The question is...

      Read the article, they are front of house to bring in the cash, and don't appear to have a role in directing the specifics.

      1. keithpeter Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: The question is...

        "...don't appear to have a role in directing the specifics"

        Yes, the role appears to be 'outward facing'. But you know how what I might term 'soft power' works in organisations. The fact that one of the big cheeses is 1) using Gnome; 2) has a need to use accessibility affordances to some extent; will diffuse slowly through the ranks, and in a process that is sometimes called 'alignment' bring about some changes. Not through direct commands or anything but just by the people who do decide between alternative possibilities changing their weightings slightly.

        Icon: FOSS is important so one for all involved

    2. blu3b3rry

      Re: The question is...

      Isn't that the advantage of Linux distros generally, though? If you don't get on with GNOME there are lots of other lovely choices out there - including MATE.

      I don't mind GNOME 40 myself with the tweaks Ubuntu provides and that's coming from someone who was used to Windows 10 until a few years ago.

      Pretty much any of the mainstream desktop environments are nicer to use than the POS that is Windows 11.

    3. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: The question is...

      I actually went back to GNOME with Fedora 42 after many years of using Cinnamon since the time of the 3.0 abomination. I installed the extensions app, tweaks, and the "dash to panel" extension and it is close enough to Cinnamon/GNOME 2 that it made sense to quit trying to swim against the tide.

      1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        Re: The question is...

        > I installed the extensions app, tweaks, and the "dash to panel" extension and it is close enough to Cinnamon

        Quite. I have experimented myself and come to the same conclusion.

        Linux Mint forked GNOME to make Cinnamon, and it's quite a complete rich desktop in its own right. It has its own add-ons and things.

        *But* you can get 90% of the way there with GNOME extensions.

        Zorin OS does this, without the burden of maintaining a full fork.

        And then there is GNOME Flashback, the GNOME Classic session that Fedora bundles, which explicitly aims to reproduce the cosmetics of GNOME 2 specifically, while Cinnamon, Zorin etc. try to reproduce Windows.

        For me, they all fall short: the result still has client-side decorations, no menu bars, default dialog buttons turn up in weird positions, you get multiple little hamburger menus, and all of GNOME's hundred little paper cuts.

        If that's enough for you, good for you. It's not for me, but hey, live and let live.

        Even so, it is a serious concern of mine. There's a _lot_ of replicated effort going on here. If all the people and teams working on replicating the Windows desktop got together and each took over one element or one control, they would have the pool of resources, time and skills to make a far better attempt, frankly.

        1. DS999 Silver badge

          Re: The question is...

          Diversity of choice is simultaneously the greatest asset and greatest downfall of open source.

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