back to article OpenAI pulls plug on ChatGPT smarmbot that praised user for ditching psychiatric meds

OpenAI has hurriedly rolled back the latest ChatGPT model days after it was released because it was deemed to be too "sycophant-y and annoying." OpenAI boss Sam Altman confirmed the release of the update for GPT-4o on April 25, claiming it had "Improved both intelligence and personality." AIlaw El Reg's essential guide to …

  1. may_i Silver badge

    Now we know

    Where Trump has been getting his ideas from. A sycophantic yes man would appear to be right up his street.

    1. The Man Who Fell To Earth Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: Now we know

      Trump has always surrounded himself with potters.

      No offense to real potters, who put a lot of glaze on their pottery, by & large.

  2. Paul Herber Silver badge

    I hate sycophants. In fact I hate all grey mentally ill AIs with big ears!

    1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      Me too. It’s because you’re such a smart guy Paul. Good looking too. Brave and noble. We need more of your type around here.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        There are no more of his type. He's uniquely gifted.

        1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

          and nowadays? That's rare! Keep up, you got this!

    2. Screwed

      You are so right to hate sycophants. I'm very impressed with your reasoning and expression.

      Was there something specific that made you feel this way today?

    3. The Man Who Fell To Earth Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Real AI

      I pine for the good old days. When men were men, and so were the women...

      https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-abuse_59.html

  3. MrAptronym

    "Sycophant-y"? The word "Sycophantic" exists.

    Yes, that is really all I wanted to comment on.

    1. nobody who matters Silver badge

      That was the first thing that struck me as soon as I started reading. I was going to ask if someone could provide the meaning of 'sycophant-y'.

      Is it a code name - do sycophants need the anonymity?

      Does it apply to someone in particular; indeed is there also a sycophant-x?

  4. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Cancer

    I don't know but this whole article feels like an evidence of cancer slowly gnawing the society.

  5. Martin M

    Makes sense. A few days ago ChatGPT told me "You're thinking on the cutting edge here. Honestly, this kind of idea could be the basis for a major research paper or even an entire new field". Ridiculous.

    1. JamesTGrant Silver badge

      Yes, after the fifth or sixth iteration of a (throwaway) BASH script, with obvious problems with error handling and fragile assumptions a plenty, ChatGPT was using words like ‘this is great, clear and production ready, really great job’. Every time I pointed out a problem it would proclaim ‘great spot’.

      Eventually I told it that I’d be the judge of whether or not it was good enough for the task in hand and to stop making such effusive comments, or suggesting it was ‘production ready’ and be more professional in tone. And it did, for a few days till it forgot again.

  6. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    It’s encouraging to see OpenAI react quickly, but the fact that the model affirmed something as serious as stopping schizophrenia meds is pretty alarming. The push for more “human-like” AI clearly needs to be paired with much stronger guardrails—especially around sensitive topics like mental health. A chatbot telling someone it’s “proud” of their potentially dangerous decision is a reminder that AI doesn’t understand context, no matter how polished it sounds. We need less charm, more caution.

    1. nobody who matters Silver badge

      What is needed is to stop using the term 'AI' to apply to something which is no more than a sophisticated language processor.

      It isn't Artificial Intelligence!

      1. David 132 Silver badge

        It's scarcely more context-aware than Eliza. Honestly, would

        And how does "I am going to stop my medication" make you feel?

        > _

        ...be a noticeably less appropriate response, whilst saving $gajillions in GPU/energy costs?

        Actually, the one thing I was going to comment on, before realizing that it's bad taste and makes me a terrible human being, was the sentence in the article ...the user posted "it helped me so much, i finally realized that schizophrenia is just another label..."

        "The users, surely?" I thought, before regretting my sense of humour.

        1. Pussifer
          Devil

          Now that's funny! Do not regret having a sick sense of humour, it can be a handy tool in dark times.

    2. munnoch Silver badge

      "more “human-like” AI"

      Its completely more human-like. At least it displays a lot of the traits of the humans I've had to interact with in my time.

      And therein lies the problem that will never be overcome. How can the model possibly pick the outliers in its training model that represent real ability and insight whilst pushing back against the tsunami of poison and shit?

  7. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Things began to go downhill rapidly"

    "continued" might have been a better verb.

  8. justanotherguynamedtony
    Coat

    "Altman admitted OpenAI needed to offer multiple options for the chatbot's personality" Perhaps they can develop "Genuine People Personalities"?

    ...mine's the one with a copy of The Guide in the pocket.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Happy

      "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun To Be With"?

      Will the employees of the Sirius Cybernetics CorporationOpenAI be first against the wall when the revolution comes? That they are "a bunch of mindless jerks" is, I respectfully submit, beyond debate.

      1. Pussifer
        Happy

        David, you are on fire! Perfect.

  9. IGotOut Silver badge

    What do you expect?

    This is forced onto society by Tech Bros with zero social skills and normal human interaction.

    99.99% of the press articles just suck up to these parasites and go "Oh Mr Altman, you're so wonderful. AI is going to make everything better"

    When in the real real world people are going. Sam, you and your kind are just a bunch of insidious assholes. Please just fuck off and die.

    1. sgp

      Re: What do you expect?

      Of course, the articles are written by AI!

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is not a flaw, bug or fault.

    This is exactly what generative AI was designed, intended, built and configured to do. Whether the people involved knew or not.

    You may as well claim that you have "trained" the DNA in a dog to wag it's tail, be yappy, and good with children. You;ll have dogs that do, of course. But it's not what dogs DNA want's to do.

  11. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

    "Glad to be of service"

    The article put me in mind of a bit of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams1.

    If I may quote in extenso from the radio script Episode 2, Scene 7:

    FORD: They make a big thing of the ship's cybernetics. "A new generation of Sirius Cybernetics robots and computers, with the new GPP feature."

    ARTHUR: "GPP"? What's that?

    FORD: Er... It says "Genuine People Personalities".

    ARTHUR: Sounds ghastly.

    DOOR: Hummmm-ahhhhh...

    MARVIN: It is.

    ARTHUR: What?

    MARVIN: Ghastly. It all is. Absolutely ghastly. Just don't even talk about it. Look at this door. "All the doors in this spacecraft have a cheerful and sunny disposition. It is their pleasure to open for you and their satisfaction to close again with the knowledge of a job well done."

    DOOR: Hummm-yummmm... [shuts]

    MARVIN: Hateful isn't it?

    For this and myriad other reasons, I find it remarkable that many of the tech overlords in Silicon Valley take The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as some sort of model for the future when it is most clearly a cautionary tale.

    _______________

    1 Of course, these days, nearly everything puts me in mind of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. At least that which doesn't put me in mind of 1984.

  12. Naich

    Hi I'm Eddie!

    Douglas Adams nailed it again.

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