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IBM – a company understood to employ at least one-third of its global workforce in India and Bangladesh – is pledging to spend $150 billion over the next half decade on making America great again. That's right folks, the tech giant also known as Big Blue – a phrase that might also encapsulate the feelings of, say, a laid off …

  1. JK63

    "... following years of hard work by executives to move jobs to lower cost locations."

    While literally true, *decades* is also true and likely more impactful to many including myself.

  2. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    I've Been Mean

    Let me guess, it's $150000000000 over a long enough period of time that they can change plans before the first $1 is spent?

    1. UnknownUnknown Silver badge

      Re: I've Been Mean

      Stopping fucking US jobs to India would probably cost them a whole lot less than USD$150bn

    2. UnknownUnknown Silver badge

      Re: I've Been Mean

      Like Foxconn in Wisconsin??

      During Trump 1.0.

    3. Snake Silver badge

      Re: I've Been Mean

      Yep: pander to the Morons, then keep doing Business as Usual. Watch my face, not my hands.

  3. Grindslow_knoll

    Spend 'in' , meaning, it'll be a US based IBM receiving k $ from IBM to spend in outsourcing.

    Technically the dollars are 'spent' in US.

    Just like the US mainstay of manufacturing uses (or used) lower level components from abroad, but then is Made in X still something that has value?

    1. cant
      Coat

      You tell me! Nowadays I can't find a single HPC that doesn't say "Made in Taiwan"

      1. Brad Ackerman

        At least Taiwan is an ally and will be until Trump decides to go further than he's ever gone to bat for the PRC.

    2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      $150Bn in share buybacks.

      The shares trade in the USA so we are buying American stocks, so that's an investment in the USA

  4. katrinab Silver badge
    Meh

    What do they actually do now?

    Social Security System and Apollo Moon Landings, sure, but they were like 60-70 years ago.

    Anything more recent than that?

    1. VicMortimer Silver badge

      Pretty sure they made crappy computers in the '80s. Don't think they've done anything since.

      1. MyffyW Silver badge

        The '90s Thinkpad was an ok laptop. It's docking station was a piece of crap that failed to connect to the (IBM Token Ring) network more often than it succeeded.

        The AS/400 was a perfectly reasonable mini-computer.

        The pSeries UNIX kit was nice as an alternative to the other vendor UNIXes (back when that was a thing).

        Even the xSeries (x86) servers weren't too bad (but HP was better IMHO).

        Their services business, despite employing some sincere individuals, was God-awful.

        So a sort of "Meh" for the 80s, 90s and early 2000s from me.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Their services business, despite employing some sincere individuals, was God-awful.

          As one of those service business types we were NOT allowed to anything else but God-awful. Them were the rules!

    2. Korev Silver badge
      Holmes

      > Anything more recent than that?

      Ask Watson?

      1. EnviableOne

        because someone has to have a use for it... they have been trying to find it for circa 30 yrs

    3. That Badger

      A bit longer before that, they "helped" organize nazi concentration camps.

  5. Grumpy Fellow
    Go

    I will see your $150 billion...

    and raise you $150 billion. Yes, I pledge $300 billion! Starting over the next 10 years.

    1. Roger Kynaston

      You forgot the important bit

      I will absolutely invest $300 billion but I need $100 million in seed capital to help build the bigly huge factory in Louisiana.

      1. Brad Ackerman

        Re: You forgot the important bit

        I can get you that $100M as soon as you wire $5M to this Cayman Islands bank account so I can pay transfer fees.

  6. DS999 Silver badge

    I'll bet this is like Apple's $500 billion announcement

    Just announcing existing investments they'd already planned. Apple announced $430 billion after Biden took office in 2021 and $350 billion in 2017 when Trump's first term started. Cook knows how to placate Trump without it affecting how he operates the company.

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: I'll bet this is like Apple's $500 billion announcement

      No, for the article its announcement of a reduction in US-based R&D spend…

  7. fredesmite2
    Mushroom

    All these corporations are stalling waiting for another Thomas Crook to MAGA

  8. fredesmite2
    Flame

    VIRGINIA ROMETTY ex CEO

    VIRGINIA ROMETTY ex CEO

    Virginia M. Rometty.

    The only person at IBM over the age of 50 that actually reached the retirement age without getting laid off.

    ...

    1. Bluck Mutter

      Re: VIRGINIA ROMETTY ex CEO

      I made it to 57 before they laid me off (i retired at that point)

      Was a Global Lead Consultant of a real hands on group (not power point jockeys) that did work that no one else could (within or outside of IBM...in the Unix/Linux space).

      Basically I was the next on the list (spreadsheet sorted by salary by age over 50... select top 10%) ***

      Of course this highly complex spreadsheet never took into account what the group brought in... millions per year per consultant.

      So after a year this highly specialized woldwide group was gone (cause everyone else in the group left)...and all that revenue lost.

      But hey.... I was gone from the spreadsheet!!.

      Bluck

      **** also probably considered was the groups skill set wasnt in any of the new initiatives that were so highly prized (shit like blockchain)

  9. JWLong Silver badge

    Look Ma...

    .... another lying mother fucker.

    Big Blue can blow me.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Look Ma...

      Can you name a company of equal size that doesn't lie ?

  10. Zibob Silver badge

    Math ain't matching for me

    "In its announcement, IBM said it intends to spend $30 billion on R&D over the next five years - an average of $6 billion a year"

    "By way of comparison, the tech giant spent and $7.48 billion on R&D last year, and $6.78 billion the year prior, according to the IT giant's 2024 annual report [PDF]."

    Am I reading that correctly? Their big Investment push would be less money than previous years?

    1. snowpages

      Re: Math ain't matching for me

      Probably relying on the fact that the Orange Felon hasn't got the attention span to read beyond the "$30 billion" - not even as far as "over 5 years"..

      Make Arithmetic Great Again

  11. JacobZ

    Shambling zombie corpse

    So the most recent great innovation the PR department can name is Apollo?

    That's not a good look.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Shambling zombie corpse

      They did some big data work for governments in the early 40s but don't want to talk about it.

  12. xyz123 Silver badge

    IBM is moving its stuff to India because its facing over TEN THOUSAND discrimination lawsuits.

    For firing people due to age AND if they're non-white or LGBTQ.

    Literally emails from high-ups saying "I didn't know XYZ was an [n-word]. fire them now"

    They're going to be on the hook for multiple 10s of billions over these US lawsuits, and are trying to escape to another country basically but hoping to keep the US sales alive.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This post contains some characters we can't support

    > Krishna added: "We have been focused on American jobs and manufacturing since our founding 114 years ago, and with this investment and manufacturing commitment we are ensuring that IBM remains the epicenter of the world's most advanced computing and AI capabilities."

    Careful Krishna, you might take someone's eye out. [Pinnochio emoji not allowed]

    1. david 12 Silver badge

      Re:focused on American jobs and manufacturing

      Focused on reducing American jobs and manufacturing for that long? I knew that they had offshored important parts of their business by the 1930's, but I didn't realize it went back to the very start of the business.

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